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Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2112. (Read 3377790 times)

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Hi all

Just a question but :

Assuming the goal of paycoin is to make some kind "crypto paypal" for a lower cost by using crypto mining technics .
Assuming the paycoin would be the currency in use and to attract company you need to garanty (so to control) the coin (value , number of coin etc ..)
Assuming in this case than gaw is just a front end (with some investment fund or what ever you call it) behind it trying to short circuit the banks.

in order to succeed gaw need to control most of the coins (and the hashing power).

Aren't we doing their game by heavely mining and dmping paycoin ??

I mean , right now we do the job for them by dumping for a cheap price they can buy (using the cash they have , wherever it came from mining, trading or customer etc..)

If I was the conspiracy threory kind: I d says garza tactics is use the greed of people .

first create a cash amount using the primes and btc mining (minus what he gave back to customer)
second create my own coin expecting people to mine and dump like most of other altcoins .
last buy back and low price 99% of my own coin before to start partnership with some company as payment method (and to close public mining pool)

At the end no money came out of his pocket and he is now in control of a paypal competitor (fully build and run by customer who are also investors)  ..

what do you think ??



  

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Jimmothy Mentioned something about the MSB found here and GAW is not on it. I asked over at HT and someone said they may be linked to another company or name

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/

If there collecting all my information for it. I would like to know where they are on the list.

I would not be giving up all my information to them before I know where they are on this list if at all.
I would bet every single Paycoin I own* that they aren't on this list in any form or fashion.

*I own zero Paycoins.

Smart man I read the disclaimer .
... and I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
legendary
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Some clarification:

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One thing that may not be clear. You CAN move from XPY to BTC under a certain limit with no KYC

(why not just say what the limit is?)

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NO CYK [sic] will be required to move XPY around

To me this sounds like: you'll be able to dump a certain limited amount of coins on Paybase, or move them out and dump elsewhere without a limit. Otherwise KYC.

There is no real kyc, just banning paycoin sales
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Jimmothy Mentioned something about the MSB found here and GAW is not on it. I asked over at HT and someone said they may be linked to another company or name

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/

If there collecting all my information for it. I would like to know where they are on the list.

I would not be giving up all my information to them before I know where they are on this list if at all.
I would bet every single Paycoin I own* that they aren't on this list in any form or fashion.

*I own zero Paycoins.

Smart man I read the disclaimer .
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We've received an official response from Amazon regarding the Chrome extension and intend on publishing it in the near future once all of the facts are gathered in the matter but I'm going to take the highlights of the response and share them here in the meantime.

"Amazon does not allow nor condone the use of any piece of software that violates our terms of service specifically the following sections:

[...] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.

[...] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site [...]

[...] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.

[...] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.

[...] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.

Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly."

These are just some highlights. As we continue securing facts and information our team will work to publish a full piece.

You should report to Amazon that on Paybase.com they have an amazon webpage in the computer, but Amazon is not supported.  This is false advertisement, I bet Amazon would love to have little chat with GAW about that.
legendary
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Stay cool man and don't act in haste.  Don't make irrational decisions.  Depending on how this thing pans out, you will likely be able to get your money back and then some.  Just start unwinding AS SOON as you have the chance.  If a lot of $ is locked up on hashstakers, call them directly and kick up a shit storm.  I imagine they will wilt eventually and give you your money back.

Good advice. Don't make hasty decissions based on how you were treated on a forum or a social media site. If he doesn't want to talk to you it's a personal thing between you and him. He doesn't have to respond to your concerns on his twitter.

As an investor this is not a way to treat people. Doesn't mean he has to answer me on twitter, but to block me is showing lack of concern for investors. I'm done with gawminers, and their bullshit. They don't have a mining farm, they have a storage locker full of asics, that's about it.

You are not an investor.. You're a victim.
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Jimmothy Mentioned something about the MSB found here and GAW is not on it. I asked over at HT and someone said they may be linked to another company or name

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/

If there collecting all my information for it. I would like to know where they are on the list.

I would not be giving up all my information to them before I know where they are on this list if at all.
I would bet every single Paycoin I own* that they aren't on this list in any form or fashion.

*I own zero Paycoins.
legendary
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Thanks for writing that down, very useful for people like me who just glance at this debacle from a distance!
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Jimmothy Mentioned something about the MSB found here and GAW is not on it. I asked over at HT and someone said they may be linked to another company or name

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/

If there collecting all my information for it. I would like to know where they are on the list.

I would not be giving up all my information to them before I know where they are on this list if at all.
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We've received an official response from Amazon regarding the Chrome extension and intend on publishing it in the near future once all of the facts are gathered in the matter but I'm going to take the highlights of the response and share them here in the meantime.

"Amazon does not allow nor condone the use of any piece of software that violates our terms of service specifically the following sections:

[...] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.

[...] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site [...]

[...] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.

[...] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.

[...] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.

Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly."

These are just some highlights. As we continue securing facts and information our team will work to publish a full piece.
Got their asses! It's amazing how illegally ran GAW is, and so casually.
I'd be amazed if GAW (and Zincsave before them) didn't make sure their system was viable before publishing details about it...

(in b4 'prepare to be amazed')
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We've received an official response from Amazon regarding the Chrome extension and intend on publishing it in the near future once all of the facts are gathered in the matter but I'm going to take the highlights of the response and share them here in the meantime.

"Amazon does not allow nor condone the use of any piece of software that violates our terms of service specifically the following sections:

[...] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.

[...] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site [...]

[...] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.

[...] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.

[...] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.

Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly."

These are just some highlights. As we continue securing facts and information our team will work to publish a full piece.
I can't say for sure, but I imagine this is what killed ZincSave, the original plugin that Josh copped.  Anyone know what officially happened to ZS?
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We've received an official response from Amazon regarding the Chrome extension and intend on publishing it in the near future once all of the facts are gathered in the matter but I'm going to take the highlights of the response and share them here in the meantime.

"Amazon does not allow nor condone the use of any piece of software that violates our terms of service specifically the following sections:

[...] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.

[...] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site [...]

[...] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.

[...] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.

[...] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.

Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly."

These are just some highlights. As we continue securing facts and information our team will work to publish a full piece.
Got their asses! It's amazing how illegally ran GAW is, and so casually.
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They're literally just trying to ripoff Coinbase...so I don't understand why they made a whole new coin that's super sketchy. Maybe because they knew they couldn't keep their fake mining operation going. They slashed payouts prematurely to coerce people to upgrade, because why wouldn't you when you're making 1 satoshi a day on 1mh/s of scrypt asic. "Never obsolete"? Yes, it is obsolete. So can we take them to court for fraud? Because 1 millionth of a penny is clearly obsolete.
Legal definition:

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1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.
"the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"
synonyms:   outdated, out of date, outmoded, old-fashioned, démodé, passé, out of fashion; More
antonyms:   cutting-edge, the latest, modern
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(of a part or characteristic of an organism) less developed than formerly or in a related species; rudimentary; vestigial.
verbUS
verb: obsolete; 3rd person present: obsoletes; past tense: obsoleted; past participle: obsoleted; gerund or present participle: obsoleting
1.
cause (a product or idea) to be or become obsolete by replacing it with something new.
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We've received an official response from Amazon regarding the Chrome extension and intend on publishing it in the near future once all of the facts are gathered in the matter but I'm going to take the highlights of the response and share them here in the meantime.

"Amazon does not allow nor condone the use of any piece of software that violates our terms of service specifically the following sections:

[...] will not intercept, record, redirect, read, interpret, or fill in the contents of any electronic form or other material submitted to us by any person or entity.

[...] will not request, collect, obtain, store, cache, or otherwise use any account information used by our customers in connection with any Amazon Site [...]

[...] will not modify, redirect, suppress, or substitute the operation of any button, link, or other feature of the Amazon Site.

[...] will not make any orders or engage in other transactions of any kind on the Amazon Site on behalf of any other person or entity, or authorize, assist, or encourage any other person or entity to do so.

[...] will not take any action that could reasonably cause any customer confusion as to our relationship with you, or as to the site on which any functions or transactions (e.g., search, browse, or order) are occurring.

Any piece of software, extension or other system which implies a partnership or intercepts customers or customer information is in direct violation of our terms and Amazon will act accordingly."

These are just some highlights. As we continue securing facts and information our team will work to publish a full piece.
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Link to this one. Thanks

btw if you didn't see it the conversion of coins and paybase is being pushed back (suprised?) to jan 2. Josh with his retard ideas always falling flat on his ass(face).
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WHEW! Look at that amazing, first time in history floor! https://coin-swap.net/market/XPY/BTC fucking LOL, this is crypto there is no floor. When you shit on the entire community for months. It will return the favor. In a couple days this coin will be in the toliet. Btw if you didn't see it the conversion of coins and paybase is being pushed back (suprised?) to jan 2. Josh with his retard ideas always falling flat on his ass(face).
Link?

Link Please ? Thanks
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My friend lost his hashlets because of Zen market related glitch and this company still denying their fault and punishing the seller for their mistake. Is there any authority, we can go?

You will need proof of this, which is probably locked up in GAWs database and would need a subpoena from a judge to get access to that data.  In the end it would probably be cheaper to just take the losses and move on to somewhere else.  
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WHEW! Look at that amazing, first time in history floor! https://coin-swap.net/market/XPY/BTC fucking LOL, this is crypto there is no floor. When you shit on the entire community for months. It will return the favor. In a couple days this coin will be in the toliet. Btw if you didn't see it the conversion of coins and paybase is being pushed back (suprised?) to jan 2. Josh with his retard ideas always falling flat on his ass(face).
Link?
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My friend lost his hashlets because of Zen market related glitch and this company still denying their fault and punishing the seller for their mistake. Is there any authority, we can go?
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That sites meant for sexcoin. It need some loving if anyone wants to help out!
I don't know, this sounds like a good way to catch a sexually transmitted coin.... ;-)
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