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Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2273. (Read 3377790 times)

legendary
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https://bpip.org
Haven't read it all yet, so I can't comment on the contents.

Save you the time:

https://i.imgur.com/6ZvRKG7.jpg

I just read the entire interview and a big load of cow dung would be more appropriate. What a bunch of fantasyland nonsense.

What an oddly shaped donut...

Now I can't read it even if I wanted to - coinbrief is down.
full member
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I'll keep a few Primes and my Genesis just in case this thing pans out, At the moment though it's risk management for me.
Would really like to see my 170k plus points turn into BTC but I am not counting on it.

I love how half the critics here are saying something similar to the above.  Why not totally divest if you think it's a ponzi?

I have no idea either way, but people here state valid concerns, I have already reached positive ROI so I'll let a little ride with GAW to see how it all pans out, I mainly have Genesis now as they are the only thing mining BTC, If I feel it's going full Ponzi I'll dump them on the market, I could already make profit doing that now as bottom line is 0.51 I bought at 0.45, but they are paying daily at the mo so I'll hold for a bit.

As far as the Primes there could be a price boost on the market, if so I'll dump my last few.
sr. member
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There goes the dangling carrot again just 11 more days. What happened to today to convert HP to Paycoin. This is just getting to funny and I dont mean funny HA HA either.

Darn. Cannot sell free Hashlet Genesis. Stuck with my 2.5 to 3 cents per day for free. LOL!

Its doing better then the ones that are paid for.

Yes. Much better than multis at 1 Satoshi a day.

I have a couple of Antminers s3+ pointed at westhash. Thinking have not seen these payouts in awhile.
legendary
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There goes the dangling carrot again just 11 more days. What happened to today to convert HP to Paycoin. This is just getting to funny and I dont mean funny HA HA either.

Darn. Cannot sell free Hashlet Genesis. Stuck with my 2.5 to 3 cents per day for free. LOL!

Its doing better then the ones that are paid for.

Yes. Much better than multis at 1 Satoshi a day.
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 251
There goes the dangling carrot again just 11 more days. What happened to today to convert HP to Paycoin. This is just getting to funny and I dont mean funny HA HA either.

Darn. Cannot sell free Hashlet Genesis. Stuck with my 2.5 to 3 cents per day for free. LOL!

Its doing better then the ones that are paid for.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1024
There goes the dangling carrot again just 11 more days. What happened to today to convert HP to Paycoin. This is just getting to funny and I dont mean funny HA HA either.

Darn. Cannot sell free Hashlet Genesis. Stuck with my 2.5 to 3 cents per day for free. LOL!
sr. member
Activity: 840
Merit: 251
There goes the dangling carrot again just 11 more days. What happened to today to convert HP to Paycoin. This is just getting to funny and I dont mean funny HA HA either.
legendary
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I'm selling as we speak....the "lifetime" ownership & payouts got me in...but "the love is gone"  Cry

I hear ya, it sounded interesting at the onset. If there was demand for paycoin, that would be one thing, but it looks like artificial demand right now. I heard that they were working on getting a partnership with Target and some other retailers, but can't find any updates or other information.

GAW lied about Target, etc. Had to delete as all the companies mentioned denied any relationship and Amazon apparently threatened to sue them. Also in the interview, it is amazing how much Josh, the GAWsome CEO, doesn't now. Doesn't know block reward or anything about POW phase, etc. He doesn't really know anything because it is all made up as they go.
legendary
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I'm selling as we speak....the "lifetime" ownership & payouts got me in...but "the love is gone"  Cry

I hear ya, it sounded interesting at the onset. If there was demand for paycoin, that would be one thing, but it looks like artificial demand right now. I heard that they were working on getting a partnership with Target and some other retailers, but can't find any updates or other information.
legendary
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Haven't read it all yet, so I can't comment on the contents.

Save you the time:



I just read the entire interview and a big load of cow dung would be more appropriate. What a bunch of fantasyland nonsense.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Coinbrief takes the cake for being crap. That article they did today was full of shit...

It's not really an article, it's a barely edited interview, which is better than most that PR crud we've been reading lately.

http://coinbrief.net/interview-gaw-garza-paycoin/
https://archive.today/q8qXB

Haven't read it all yet, so I can't comment on the contents.
sr. member
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Coinbrief takes the cake for being crap. That article they did today was full of shit...

They should of did a follow up on

http://coinbrief.net/gaw-miners-response-to-knc/
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I want to make something clear about our VaultBreakers.
There is NO scenario where I will allow KNC to beat us to market. If, by some miracle, they happen to be ready to ship before us. I will use my data center to spin up all your VaultBreakers until they are ready to be shipped (assuming they are shipped units)
Again, there is no way I will allow them to deliver hashing power before we deliver to our customers. This is my commitment to all VB customers. Please spread the word.
Scrypt Mining is my house, and I will not be beat in my own house
Josh- CEO

but didn't and they still trust him and do another interview with him. This prick has no shame, lying, money stealing **ck sucker. "All of our vaultbreakers", yea Josh? Really?
I wonder what he paid coinbrief..
 

any journalist who fails to put a date on their article is not a journalist.
sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
Coinbrief takes the cake for being crap. That article they did today was full of shit...

They should of did a follow up on

http://coinbrief.net/gaw-miners-response-to-knc/
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I want to make something clear about our VaultBreakers.
There is NO scenario where I will allow KNC to beat us to market. If, by some miracle, they happen to be ready to ship before us. I will use my data center to spin up all your VaultBreakers until they are ready to be shipped (assuming they are shipped units)
Again, there is no way I will allow them to deliver hashing power before we deliver to our customers. This is my commitment to all VB customers. Please spread the word.
Scrypt Mining is my house, and I will not be beat in my own house
Josh- CEO

but didn't and they still trust him and do another interview with him. This prick has no shame, lying, money stealing **ck sucker. "All of our vaultbreakers", yea Josh? Really?
I wonder what he paid coinbrief..
 
legendary
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I'm selling as we speak....the "lifetime" ownership & payouts got me in...but "the love is gone"  Cry

sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
I still wonder if GAW/Zen... *EVER*... asked for permission from the real pool owners if it was OK to use their names back when all this mess first started to take shape. We all know NiceHash called out GAW/Zen when the first (and most profitable) pool listed on GAW/Zen was removed due to a mysterious "over" payment bug issue that was anything but Mt.GAW's fault (cough....BS), but what about the others? Easy, there likely never was any real pool activity from GAW/Zen - just free use of others' names.

For someone so anal about trademarks, trade-names, copyrights, etc., one must wonder if he/they ever play and/or played by their own rules.

Just reading some transcripts from Mr. Garza talking a few days ago was comical when he mentioned he had already talked with all the exchanges and their owners will force the existing PayCoin owners to change their name or face legal action since GAW/Zen owns that name now and trademarked it (after the fact). Simply unreal...

Grandiose delusions at their finest.  Roll Eyes

Scott-

So did multipool.us

From flound1129 Posted 03 September 2014 - 04:29 PM

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So, the hashlet situation is this:
 
1. I have no formal relationship with GAW.  They appear to be using our profitability numbers as posted on the main page or possibly via poolpicker.eu.
2. They do not mine on multipool.  They do payouts based on profitability reported by individual pools (which is completely unverified, as far as I know)
3. It is not clear that hashlets are actually mining anywhere, at this time.  There is certainly not enough 'Unknown' hashrate on the LItecoin network to account for the amount of hashrate they say they have.  Also, since they claim 200% profitability (which is mathematically impossible), they would need to have double that hashrate (i.e. each hashlet is actually buying 2MH of mining power, rather than the 1MH that's claimed) which would be about 500GH at this point.
 
My best guess is that they have hardware on the way to fill these orders, and they are simply paying payments out of cash reserves at this point.  I don't think it's an intentional scam or ponzi, they are far too large and successful of a company to do anything like that on purpose.  That said, if the hardware doesn't show up and they run out of cash, bad things could potentially happen.  

EDIT:

I ran for the hills about 2 weeks before this was posted. Too many red flags started to pop up.

EDIT:
After both pools came out and stated no relationship with gaw, lots of DDOS. If anybody remembers nicehash was a member of the old forum and made a stink about gaw not mining on their site and asked for an address to verify. I also remember multi asking for an address too on one of the forums.

EDIT:
Another person I have much respect has left them too, I wont mention his name but will add his post Smiley

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Not sure this deserves to be in the Warning section, but I do advise caution.

I have personally sold all my GAW virtual holdings.  It just feels like a Ponzi to me.  Remember that Ponzi was famous in his day, with international recognition.

My main concern:  GAW controls all aspects of this Hashlet thing.  Everything.  From creation to payout.  AND THEY ARE NOT THAT GOOD!   Payment issues abound, they take extra fees out of peoples accounts without notice, can take a month or more to fix problems, if ever.  They change the rules when it suits them (ex:  Convert your hosted Black Widow to Hashlets, your 90 day maintenance free period will be extended to match...  and a month and forum later stating that was never the case, 30 days max on free Hashlet maintenance.  No e-mail, just a post implying it as part of an update.)

Bottom line:  Too much control, no accountability, and a fleet of lemmings to praise their every word.  e.g.  The basis for a Ponzi scheme.
member
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Josh declared war when he sued coinfire and called Bitcoin not viable. I'm here to battle to the death.

Are you sure he sued Coinfire? I think CF just received a love letter from Mr. Garza's Los Angeles based attorney. Likewise, Mr. Garza calling BTC not viable is such an uneducated and naïve joke, it isn't even worth addressing [at this time Wink].

Scott-
Bet you 10 paycoin you're wrong. Of course when paycoin doesn't materialize i won't owe you anything anyway.
sr. member
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Josh declared war when he sued coinfire and called Bitcoin not viable. I'm here to battle to the death.

Are you sure he sued Coinfire? I think CF just received a love letter from Mr. Garza's Los Angeles based attorney. Likewise, Mr. Garza calling BTC not viable is such an uneducated and naïve joke, it isn't even worth addressing [at this time Wink].

Scott-
legendary
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Josh declared war when he sued coinfire and called Bitcoin not viable. I'm here to battle to the death.
sr. member
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I still wonder if GAW/Zen... *EVER*... asked for permission from the real pool owners if it was OK to use their names back when all this mess first started to take shape. We all know NiceHash called out GAW/Zen when the first (and most profitable) pool listed on GAW/Zen was removed due to a mysterious "over" payment bug issue that was anything but Mt.GAW's fault (cough....BS), but what about the others? Easy, there likely never was any real pool activity from GAW/Zen - just free use of others' names.

For someone so anal about trademarks, trade-names, copyrights, etc., one must wonder if he/they ever play and/or played by their own rules.

Just reading some transcripts from Mr. Garza talking a few days ago was comical when he mentioned he had already talked with all the exchanges and their owners will force the existing PayCoin owners to change their name or face legal action since GAW/Zen owns that name now and trademarked it (after the fact). Simply unreal...

Grandiose delusions at their finest.  Roll Eyes

Scott-
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How is it powered by PayCoin if it hasn't been released yet???
Designed by Paycoin?? So GAW designed the site???


Paycoin fuckin powers itself you unbeliever!!!! Its all thermonuclear driven didn't you know?

Fookin hybrid flexing un malleable super shit... GAWsome.... am i just the only one that got a hardon from thinking about paycoin?

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O in other news... page not found now why would that be taken down hmmm.... maybe josh didn't like the references.... the ones we keep pointing out here... Its like free legal advice for him Smiley
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