Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2283. (Read 3377922 times)

I'm going to call that a night and day response when compared to GAW sorry to pull things off topic guys

Bitcoin cloud services thread was beset by outstanding

counter-indicators, some of my favorites in fact so I bought

and with splendid results.

How about Bitcoin cloud services? My 450 gHs which cost less than $400 is making just slightly less than that. .00565679

Well, I have been comparing a few mining ventures to GAW/Zen since August/September to add some "context" (as Mr. Garza puts it) to the payouts ratios/trends. All seem to be within reason except for the GAW/Zen (duh) and Genesis, who many of you know was in Vegas and who's CEO sat next to Mr. Garza at least part of the time during their little pow-wow panel. Interesting thing - I think Mt.GAW is rubbing off on Genesis - since soon after the show, their payouts have also started to tank regardless if the account owner allocates the "mining" power to SHA256 or Scrypt. Make no mistake, it has not the vertical free-fall like GAW/Zen, but it is a snowball rolling down a steep mountain.

Here is a sample of a 100MH's test account that cost US$1499 in September and its payouts over the previous 3 months. ROI any time soon? unlikely...

Scott-

 

September 25th, 2014: 0.022322/Day

October 25th, 2014:  0.013669/Day

November 25th, 2014:  0.009236/Day

December 6h, 2014:  0.006692/day

I know people spending more than 100k euro in cointellect and double their investment amount, but this does not show anything about reliability. If there are doubts, staying away from that firm could be a good idea.

I´ve been mining with PBM for a while with good results.

Have other better cloud mining investments but it´s good.

I find counter-indicators quite useful, they´ve usually been

very good for my investments before bitcoin and haven´t

failed there.

What are your thoughts on https://www.genesis-mining.com?

Scott-

Quite expensive by comparing to Amhash

If he did he'd be doing everything in his power to protect his customers and being transparent. A sad individual.... i wonder what went wrong in his life to make him into this or is it a trait you are born with?

Then buy from pbmining, I just read the link and seems like that firm try to hide something. After Zen (That was my first mining investment) will never ever put money on a firm without transparency

Haha, I can assure you that when this doggieman character

claims that something is a confirmed scam it´s a 100% buy  

Of course only time will tell and he and other nutbags have been

confirming PBM as a scam for a year now and undoubtedly still

will in a year.

http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yqx55/mining_rig_builders_do_not_sell_anything_or/ ??

[–]starout 3 points 9 months ago

Hello All,

I created a Reddit account to set the story straight here. I work on the eBay Resolution Team, and have for over 6 years now. Day in and day out, I see both sellers’ and buyers’ get away with fraud.

After I read this post, I took a quick look at the buyer and case for this claim. This particular case really disturbed me due to the inaccuracy of information given by the seller. I involved a colleague of mine to investigate further to see if the claims were actually true, as I see a lot of cases like these get appealed. We were both appalled by the facts.

As I cannot provide more specifics to this particular claim, I can say that the original poster in this thread is currently being investigated by eBay’s High Claim Resolution Team. The poster misrepresented the facts of this case to eBay claiming the buyer never worked with them or returned the item. The case was updated yesterday after their team learned, and verified, that the buyer did in fact return the item and the seller had signed for it.

Even though the seller received AND signed for the return, they told eBay that they never received the item. Due to the information the seller represented, their payment was returned to them. The seller now has both payment and item. Fortunately, the case is being appealed and should be sorted out in the next few days.

I know it's against eBay’s code of conduct, but I am only speaking about this because it reveals the holes in eBay’s policies. The lesson here is: eBay’s antiquated policies’ allow sellers to get away with cheating its buyers.

We have escalated this case to our department head as it is clear our resolution team needs new internal policies placed.

Thank you all for taking the time to read my two cents, back to work.

What are your thoughts on https://www.genesis-mining.com?

Scott-

He still doesn't have a business plan yet he already sold the business plan, and not the technology, to the VC's and bankers AND these fucking fools can't see any of this because they're fucking blinded by a contest with bullshit giveaways and probably more shiny stickers under their name. He's dealing with the dumbest and most gullible people I've ever had the misfortune of encountering. It's sad to say but a lot of these people just need to learn a lesson the hard way. And they will.

For those not following pbmining: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/definitive-proof-the-owner-of-pbmining-is-a-scammer-885224

Now a confirmed scam.