im getting insane 13 pages talking news and some kids jokes inside for sure!!!
what is the real news some resume?
are we forced to convert primes into hastakers ? i guess i had read we can get them for what really ?
last time i tryed to cashout the 2 facthor were giving error on cellphone soo is impossible to cashout is that or only me facing problems with auty?
Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2298. (Read 3377790 times)
December 05, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
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December 05, 2014, 02:22:22 PM
he is most likely locked up in basement
Sound's like you're talking from experience.
December 05, 2014, 02:19:00 PM
History of Josh:
http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yqx55/mining_rig_builders_do_not_sell_anything_or/
Posted from a deleted account? Nice http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yqx55/mining_rig_builders_do_not_sell_anything_or/
December 05, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
December 05, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
but when you think about all that: it will hurt the complete ecosystem in the end. maybe we will have more regulation because of that scam and people blame Bitcoin
December 05, 2014, 02:03:34 PM
he is most likely locked up in basement
Sound's like you're talking from experience.
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December 05, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
I do not believe there will be a public mining pool. Not going to happen.
Josh said he was having one created for PoW. I assume others will be able to do the same.
Do you know how I know Josh was lying about this? His lips were moving.
Or his thumbs.
December 05, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
I do not believe there will be a public mining pool. Not going to happen.
Josh said he was having one created for PoW. I assume others will be able to do the same.
Do you know how I know Josh was lying about this? His lips were moving.
Or his thumbs.
December 05, 2014, 01:42:22 PM
I do not believe there will be a public mining pool. Not going to happen.
Josh said he was having one created for PoW. I assume others will be able to do the same.
Do you know how I know Josh was lying about this? His lips were moving.
December 05, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
I do not believe there will be a public mining pool. Not going to happen.
Josh said he was having one created for PoW. I assume others will be able to do the same.
December 05, 2014, 01:38:04 PM
I have read one page on this post and I could not read anymore. A lot of you I am not sure your either bitter or children.
How many of you have supported a coin that lets be honest has failed?
How many of you have lost money?
I bet a lot of you.
Well I know GAW customers who have not lost any money. In fact until a month ago. Everyone was making money at GAW.
Now Josh and his team knows as well as most of you know. Most pools and coins are slowing down or not making any profit now. So they have created a new coin and not just a coin a system where they is no difficulty. They have put millions into this (unlike all past coins) Yes its all new (and some old) yes they is a chance it will fail. But with the money behind GAW they are trying to bring crypto to the masses.
This is all good for the Crypto World.
So grow up or step back.
Dec 4, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00565673 BTCHow many of you have supported a coin that lets be honest has failed?
How many of you have lost money?
I bet a lot of you.
Well I know GAW customers who have not lost any money. In fact until a month ago. Everyone was making money at GAW.
Now Josh and his team knows as well as most of you know. Most pools and coins are slowing down or not making any profit now. So they have created a new coin and not just a coin a system where they is no difficulty. They have put millions into this (unlike all past coins) Yes its all new (and some old) yes they is a chance it will fail. But with the money behind GAW they are trying to bring crypto to the masses.
This is all good for the Crypto World.
So grow up or step back.
Dec 4, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00565673 BTC
Dec 3, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00561566 BTC
Dec 1, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00575735 BTC
Dec 1, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00374378 BTC
Nov 30, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00374378 BTC
Nov 28, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00374378 BTC
Nov 27, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00374378 BTC
Nov 27, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00434347 BTC
Nov 26, 2014 You received bitcoin from an external account COMPLETE +0.00124793 BTC
Thank you so much for clearing that up, I'm clearly losing my ass outside of GAW. Moving my money somewhere that actually pays out was the smartest thing I have done since first hearing the letters GAW. I'll earn the $80 dollars I lost in a bad investment at GAW, and guess what I'm doing with that cash.
As a comparison my last payout from GAW was .0004571BTC for the same $$$$$$$$$$$'s invested, notice the extra 0 anyone, anyone, anyone.
December 05, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
During the Q&A session jmordica avoid to respond technical questions and act quite weirdo, someone able to read body language can easily say that. There is something wrong with all that shit. Actually there are lots of wrong things in that shit.
But I still believe if there is a coin (maybe there would be no coin, and they are just lying, I am not even sure about that) whatsoever, I believe if there is a coin I am able to sell it at the beginning to some of those believers
But I still believe if there is a coin (maybe there would be no coin, and they are just lying, I am not even sure about that) whatsoever, I believe if there is a coin I am able to sell it at the beginning to some of those believers
Nobody looked comfortable during that Q&A. They are all hiding shit.
December 05, 2014, 01:21:30 PM
Some more names:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/540545843494154240
It could be this guy http://www.sullcrom.com/lawyers/KennethM-Raisler or someone else entirely.
Also talking to himself and not making sense:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/540925189752909824
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/540545843494154240
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Josh Garza
@gawceo
@GTAUKSTER here meeting with Ken Raisler
@gawceo
@GTAUKSTER here meeting with Ken Raisler
It could be this guy http://www.sullcrom.com/lawyers/KennethM-Raisler or someone else entirely.
Also talking to himself and not making sense:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/540925189752909824
Quote
Josh Garza
@gawceo
@gawceo auto correct. Btw, pm works too
@gawceo
@gawceo auto correct. Btw, pm works too
December 05, 2014, 01:06:07 PM
Homero @ twitter says:
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
No, he means he's going to update his partner (life partner...) Bitgeek on where they are going for dinner.
BAZINGA!
December 05, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Homero @ twitter says:
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
They announced a new affiliate program shit company as their new global financial partner. GAW pays a montly fee for them to run the new affiliate program. A bunch of nothing as usual.
December 05, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Homero @ twitter says:
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
No, he means he's going to update his partner (life partner...) Bitgeek on where they are going for dinner.
December 05, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Homero @ twitter says:
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
Partner update later today! #XPY
Wow, is there any partner? Probably announce his partnership with his step father
December 05, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
Well I'm out, and I urge anyone else to do the same.
Primes are starting to fall in value just when the market should be backing them. The 'free' $20 Paycoin barely made a difference to the price on the market.
People are selling up and leaving.
Primes are starting to fall in value just when the market should be backing them. The 'free' $20 Paycoin barely made a difference to the price on the market.
People are selling up and leaving.
December 05, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
This well stated history is worth bumping.
My takeaway is that the the next step always looks more attractive that the last one turned out to be. If you're trapped on the treadmill keep an eye open for the exit I say (like $50 primes maybe?)
That is only the most recent "tip of the iceburg". I have been with GAW since almost the beginning the the pattern is pretty darn black and white by now...
(1) It started with hosted miners, sold by GAW and hosted for "free" (included in price for one mont to one year when purchased through GAW). GAW promised many features to the hosting that never materialized. Power outages and network problems mean lots of down time or partially working miners (which, in fairness, Josh provided compensation for in the form of store credits for me at least). No features ever materialized. Lots of problems with various pools (compatibility).
(2) GAW started zencloud as an upgrade to their hosted miner solution. They claimed to have a new datacenter where all the power problems would be solved, and new software with all the bells and whistles (to come). Pools on zencloud were limited but were promised to open up. Josh offered to switch me over for "free" to the new "beta" platform. Miraculously, transferring a hosted miner from the old crummy data center to the new Zencloud datacenter took only minutes. Must have some fast runners over there.
(3) Shortly thereafter, Josh announced hashlets. Originally marketed as the next evolution of mining. All owners of hosted miners were offered the opportunity to "upgrade" to hashlet mining. Oh, and new features promised for Zencloud hosted mining? Forget it. Pool choice narrowed and development (if it was ever in development at all) stopped. Upgrading hosted miners from Zencloud to hashlets was virtually compelled if you wanted to make any money and use the new "zenpool" which at the time was returning 2-4x what LTC mining was returning. That lasted for only 2-3 weeks at which point zenpool become the same crap as other pools, but by then most folks had "upgraded" from hosting to Primes.
(4) After "upgrading" from hosted miners to hashlets, Josh started to come clean that, in fact, unlike with the alleged hosted miners, mining on hashlet via the listed pools did not result in any actual mining on those pools. Instead, profits from from other activities like coin ICOs and renting of servers.
(5) After Zenpool tanked after only a few weeks, and Josh's promise to bring profits back to mining on Zenpool failed to materialize, we suddenly have the annoucement of Hashbase and Hashcoin aka Paycoin. And, as predicable as the sun rising, Josh offered a new scheme to bring back profitability: mining Hashpoints which will convert into Paycoins. Viola, and now we are completely off mining since hashpoints are nothing other than loyalty points.
(6) Now, as you point out, owners are forced to "upgrade" to Hashstakers and to use their loyalty program points (aka Hashpoints) to buy Paycoins to "stake" for 3-6 months while Josh works out his next plan.
Good luck to all of the poor folk who have fallen for this. I have whiplash now from just remembering all the twists and turns.
My takeaway is that the the next step always looks more attractive that the last one turned out to be. If you're trapped on the treadmill keep an eye open for the exit I say (like $50 primes maybe?)
The Problem I see with GAW right now(and yes I am sure there are more) is they Keep pushing out the Conversion from HP to Paycoin. Its like someone stated before its like the state farm commercial. I got a dollar for you. With the dollar hanging off the end of the fish hook. How blind do you have to be to see the hook keeps going out more and more.
That is only the most recent "tip of the iceburg". I have been with GAW since almost the beginning the the pattern is pretty darn black and white by now...
(1) It started with hosted miners, sold by GAW and hosted for "free" (included in price for one mont to one year when purchased through GAW). GAW promised many features to the hosting that never materialized. Power outages and network problems mean lots of down time or partially working miners (which, in fairness, Josh provided compensation for in the form of store credits for me at least). No features ever materialized. Lots of problems with various pools (compatibility).
(2) GAW started zencloud as an upgrade to their hosted miner solution. They claimed to have a new datacenter where all the power problems would be solved, and new software with all the bells and whistles (to come). Pools on zencloud were limited but were promised to open up. Josh offered to switch me over for "free" to the new "beta" platform. Miraculously, transferring a hosted miner from the old crummy data center to the new Zencloud datacenter took only minutes. Must have some fast runners over there.
(3) Shortly thereafter, Josh announced hashlets. Originally marketed as the next evolution of mining. All owners of hosted miners were offered the opportunity to "upgrade" to hashlet mining. Oh, and new features promised for Zencloud hosted mining? Forget it. Pool choice narrowed and development (if it was ever in development at all) stopped. Upgrading hosted miners from Zencloud to hashlets was virtually compelled if you wanted to make any money and use the new "zenpool" which at the time was returning 2-4x what LTC mining was returning. That lasted for only 2-3 weeks at which point zenpool become the same crap as other pools, but by then most folks had "upgraded" from hosting to Primes.
(4) After "upgrading" from hosted miners to hashlets, Josh started to come clean that, in fact, unlike with the alleged hosted miners, mining on hashlet via the listed pools did not result in any actual mining on those pools. Instead, profits from from other activities like coin ICOs and renting of servers.
(5) After Zenpool tanked after only a few weeks, and Josh's promise to bring profits back to mining on Zenpool failed to materialize, we suddenly have the annoucement of Hashbase and Hashcoin aka Paycoin. And, as predicable as the sun rising, Josh offered a new scheme to bring back profitability: mining Hashpoints which will convert into Paycoins. Viola, and now we are completely off mining since hashpoints are nothing other than loyalty points.
(6) Now, as you point out, owners are forced to "upgrade" to Hashstakers and to use their loyalty program points (aka Hashpoints) to buy Paycoins to "stake" for 3-6 months while Josh works out his next plan.
Good luck to all of the poor folk who have fallen for this. I have whiplash now from just remembering all the twists and turns.
December 05, 2014, 12:06:29 PM
If there is a public pool my hopes are that we'll be getting a BTC diff decrease if enough people redirect their hash temporarily!
There will be no public pool because it requires transparency that they do not want you to have.
Wishful thinking on my part
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