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Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 469. (Read 3377922 times)

legendary
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Spending that money was an investment.

How many rubes saw that shitshow that was the Miami conference and piled more money into his pocket? Didn't a major part of the operation fail that weekend but idiots pointed to the private jet and bodyguards and spotlight as signs that everything was going to work out and a green light to hand more money over?

Only if you neglect the fact that the money has to come from somewhere. I'm a bit lazy to go quote myself but my first question was "who's paying for this?" since 2 body guards might cost around $500 an hour so if the only income is from selling Coins and you have big costs on meaningless stuff like body guards, high end hotels and private jets, you then need to sell more Coins to pay for it and as a result would drop the market. Dropping the market doesn't matter if you have a near infinite supply of Coins coming in when it's just you getting 350% compounding but for everyone else getting 5% it makes it impossible to achieve any profit if the market drops 30% and then that exaggerates the decline because people will panic and sell at a loss.
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It's Not Enough
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Is there any list detailing how many Hashtakers are in existence? I see an opportunity here for whichever pack of crooks is said to be in charge of the Hashtaker coins to simply pay themselves whatever amount they want and dump the coins and blame the Hashtaker owners. That is not even getting into knowing how many of the supposedly purchased Hashtakers are actually Josh or other insiders using them to anonymously pay themselves coins, that is a separate issue. Kind of surprised there is basically no discussion of anything relating to the impending flood of released XPY (supposedly-IF coins are actually returned) on any of the Paycoiner forums.

As far as I know there isn't anything like that.  The hashtakers aren't actual addresses or wallets.  I thought they were pooled together in a GAW controlled prime staker, or something.

Are there any documents pertaining to sales numbers?  With a dollar value, it would be possible to come up with a rough estimate on how many were purchased.

Someone has to have the database for Hashtakers, otherwise they don't exist. I lose track of all of the goofy intentionally confusing and misleading names the various "totally not Josh" groups use, but I *think* this is the group calling themselves XPYtrust. Supposedly the ~4.6 million XPY "stolen" from Josh in March are the source for these coins, which is what I have been told when tracing over a million of those coins that went directly to exchanges. Specifically, I was told that these massive amounts taken from that address (formerly #1, I think it is now #2 @ ~1.6 million XPY) were payouts for Zencloud Hashtakers, which is obvious bullshit (It would mean something like 10 Million Hashtakers to come close to the number of coins sent to exchanges), but that was the story.

Yeah, there has to be sales records on how many were sold to customers.  If Josh complied with the subpoena, surely he would have had to provide those documents but they weren't leaked as far as I know.   Whoever is taking care of the payouts at Zencloud has to have some sort of records, but I don't know who is handling that or how much of the process is automated.
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The Scamcoats are coming!
Is there any list detailing how many Hashtakers are in existence? I see an opportunity here for whichever pack of crooks is said to be in charge of the Hashtaker coins to simply pay themselves whatever amount they want and dump the coins and blame the Hashtaker owners. That is not even getting into knowing how many of the supposedly purchased Hashtakers are actually Josh or other insiders using them to anonymously pay themselves coins, that is a separate issue. Kind of surprised there is basically no discussion of anything relating to the impending flood of released XPY (supposedly-IF coins are actually returned) on any of the Paycoiner forums.

As far as I know there isn't anything like that.  The hashtakers aren't actual addresses or wallets.  I thought they were pooled together in a GAW controlled prime staker, or something.

Are there any documents pertaining to sales numbers?  With a dollar value, it would be possible to come up with a rough estimate on how many were purchased.

Someone has to have the database for Hashtakers, otherwise they don't exist. I lose track of all of the goofy intentionally confusing and misleading names the various "totally not Josh" groups use, but I *think* this is the group calling themselves XPYtrust. Supposedly the ~4.6 million XPY "stolen" from Josh in March are the source for these coins, which is what I have been told when tracing over a million of those coins that went directly to exchanges. Specifically, I was told that these massive amounts taken from that address (formerly #1, I think it is now #2 @ ~1.6 million XPY) were payouts for Zencloud Hashtakers, which is obvious bullshit (It would mean something like 10 Million Hashtakers to come close to the number of coins sent to exchanges), but that was the story.
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Is there any list detailing how many Hashtakers are in existence? I see an opportunity here for whichever pack of crooks is said to be in charge of the Hashtaker coins to simply pay themselves whatever amount they want and dump the coins and blame the Hashtaker owners. That is not even getting into knowing how many of the supposedly purchased Hashtakers are actually Josh or other insiders using them to anonymously pay themselves coins, that is a separate issue. Kind of surprised there is basically no discussion of anything relating to the impending flood of released XPY (supposedly-IF coins are actually returned) on any of the Paycoiner forums.

As far as I know there isn't anything like that.  The hashtakers aren't actual addresses or wallets.  I thought they were pooled together in a GAW controlled prime staker, or something.

Are there any documents pertaining to sales numbers?  With a dollar value, it would be possible to come up with a rough estimate on how many were purchased.
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"Yes, we had challenges.  From sites that were inaccessible for months, to being attacked by hackers, to having to upgrade every piece of equipment on our networks, and more. As demand and usage has increased, we have had to do complete over-hauls to upgrade our networks."

Sounds like a company run by Josh Garza, thats for sure.  I'm sure a crappy, tiny ISP in buttfuck, nowhere is a target for hackers.  They sure are convenient scapegoats when it comes to anything internet related I guess.  
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The Scamcoats are coming!
Is there any list detailing how many Hashtakers are in existence? I see an opportunity here for whichever pack of crooks is said to be in charge of the Hashtaker coins to simply pay themselves whatever amount they want and dump the coins and blame the Hashtaker owners. That is not even getting into knowing how many of the supposedly purchased Hashtakers are actually Josh or other insiders using them to anonymously pay themselves coins, that is a separate issue. Kind of surprised there is basically no discussion of anything relating to the impending flood of released XPY (supposedly-IF coins are actually returned) on any of the Paycoiner forums.
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Read this message by GAWCEO regarding HSI , looks familiar ? lol

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=1305553a4b2f92259c73af602&id=d172fcdd7f

CEOPIG to the rescue!


what the fuck did I just read. really sounds like any paycoin announcement
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Holy shit indeed. The way he partitions his customers into "believers" and "doubters". Like I'm supposed to be a believer in my internet service provider. It's an ISP, not some creepy cult.
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Read this message by GAWCEO regarding HSI , looks familiar ? lol

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=1305553a4b2f92259c73af602&id=d172fcdd7f

Holy shit!  This is exactly like something he would post on hashtalk.  There had to have been a dozen posts just like this.  Excuses, excuses, excuses, sorry I'm incompetent, we fixed everything though, I promise, stick around to see all the great stuff coming!

How did he ever start GAW in the first place?  Why did anyone give him money?  Why did the state give him a contract?  He is obviously not all that bright, and not even all that tech literate.  It's mind boggling that someone so inept was able to fool so many people.
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Uncle Stu is a happy GAW user.

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Hello, I unlock my zen cloud accont, can you please unlock it.

Most appricieted.

Thanks

Sounds like you already unlocked it.
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The Scamcoats are coming!
Read this message by GAWCEO regarding HSI , looks familiar ? lol

http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=1305553a4b2f92259c73af602&id=d172fcdd7f

So sorry gais! I wuz trying so berry hawd, but it just didn't wuhk out. Anyways, I decided to keep your money even though I am not going to deliver what I sold you. Uhmkay? BuhBais! ~ Josh Garza
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Hello, I unlock my zen cloud accont, can you please unlock it.

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Thanks
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Digging into Uncle Stu's Facebook profile for (I think for me at least) the first time. Noticed that he is on the board of directors for this organization, which runs a youth camp for boys. I'm going to be letting them know that one of their board members is aiding/abetting a criminal enterprise.

http://www.keewaydin.org/about-keewaydin/keewaydin-foundation-team/

"KEEWAYDIN"  -> kee waydin -> keep waiting

sounds like a GAW type of company!
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Spending that money was an investment.

How many rubes saw that shitshow that was the Miami conference and piled more money into his pocket? Didn't a major part of the operation fail that weekend but idiots pointed to the private jet and bodyguards and spotlight as signs that everything was going to work out and a green light to hand more money over?



P.S: When exactly is the Hashtaker XPY repatriation to commence? Midnight UTC? Or will it be delayed as long as possible? Any idea how the 2FA lockout is going to affect how many people will be able to receive their Paycoins?

I'm still not sure they'll be released. For them to be released there would have to be some automated system set up to release them automatically, and i doubt anyone there is smart enough to have done that (definitely not smart enough to have it go off without a hitch) or whichever scumbag "stole" them from GAW has to release them manually, and why would they do that?

Hell, there's a major problem with the way the current staking was implemented.

Not going to specify because they might shut down the exploit if they realize, but there's a way to get paycoins that you weren't supposed to get.

do tell, do tell.  we could end this all right now!

You can't open new zencloud accounts or do much with the old ones anymore, so it would be rather hard for most people to exploit.
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