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@usd1991 refunds were issued to every one who paid for paybase redux beta on cryptochange if you do not receive your refund in 5 business days please post here and we will see if @mrceo can look into it

Well if you have that asshole's ear have him look into refunding the millions the he and is criminal gang stole from a bunch of conned suckers.
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@usd1991 refunds were issued to every one who paid for paybase redux beta on cryptochange if you do not receive your refund in 5 business days please post here and we will see if @mrceo can look into it
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Ok so is he trolling hashtards or is he one using a lame-ass image?
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Is sharklaser a for real hashtard at this stage?

Claims it's 'the trolls' fault that coinstand is a fraud




https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/13788

that's just a stock image, just do a reverse image search.
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Is sharklaser a for real hashtard at this stage?

Claims it's 'the trolls' fault that coinstand is a fraud




https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/13788
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MR Josh A.K.A CEOPIG / MR MUGGLE
CRIMINAL ACTIONS:

Josh Garza personally & Gaw Miners & its employees has defrauded dozens of thousands of invetors of dozens of million of dollars.

they have promised a solid $20 minimum price for XPY when paybase opened - THEY LIED !

they cmailed to have a CAF of $100 million USD - THEY LIED !

they promised THOUNSADS OF MERCHANTS with MILLION OF PRODUCTS - THEY LIED !

they promised CREDIT CARD - THEY LIED !

they sold hashlets that were "FOREVER" never expiring never obsolete always profitable - ALL LIES !

they stopped mining of hashlets even though they are still profitable !


Clown of the Year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-nr1nNC3ds
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MR Josh A.K.A CEOPIG / MR MUGGLE
CRIMINAL ACTIONS:

Josh Garza personally & Gaw Miners & its employees has defrauded dozens of thousands of invetors of dozens of million of dollars.

they have promised a solid $20 minimum price for XPY when paybase opened - THEY LIED !

they cmailed to have a CAF of $100 million USD - THEY LIED !

they promised THOUNSADS OF MERCHANTS with MILLION OF PRODUCTS - THEY LIED !

they promised CREDIT CARD - THEY LIED !

they sold hashlets that were "FOREVER" never expiring never obsolete always profitable - ALL LIES !

they stopped mining of hashlets even though they are still profitable !

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I never felt very sorry for the hashtard called lewiscooper because his credulity annoyed me too much.

I feel very sorry for him now. I tried to warn him, I burned through half a dozen hashtalk accounts. It might have helped some of the suckers, but not lewiscooper. He is still posting smiley faces though. That's the spirit.


I was going to make a post a few days ago about how sad people were who had dozens of hashtalk accounts banned.  But you could argue that they were the most decent of all.  Sure some were trolls but if others were genuinely trying to wake up the hashtards from their Garza trance then you should be commended.

I think I made three hastalk accounts in total with genuine email addresses, and left about 5 comments in total.  Every email address I used is now getting spam for coincard, BTClend etc.
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-now



Good Bye.....For Now
MrCEO

It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

So has anyone answered Joshypoo's question yet?

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer?

Ummm??? The answer is YES Josh you would and the reason you took that risk is because you are an uneducated, illiterate yokel with few redeeming skills... so you subjected yourself and them to this abuse to collect on the one and only payday you have ever had and likely will have so yes you would subject anyone you had to subject to the abuse to collect on your scam!  

You may thank me now for answering your question... But hey I have been trying to answer your question since October!

He stuck around because you can shear a sheep many times but you can only eat it once. Once people stopped falling for his scams, he said goodbye, what's a little online abuse if it allows you to dump more coins and come up with more shady deals to get people to give you money.

agree, he did literally everything to milk more out of hashtards. I remember him using his kids to get more sympathy... that guy is mental
Well Goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlVu7Y5m5JQ

LOL

It's a perfect day to "make money"
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-now



Good Bye.....For Now
MrCEO

It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

So has anyone answered Joshypoo's question yet?

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer?

Ummm??? The answer is YES Josh you would and the reason you took that risk is because you are an uneducated, illiterate yokel with few redeeming skills... so you subjected yourself and them to this abuse to collect on the one and only payday you have ever had and likely will have so yes you would subject anyone you had to subject to the abuse to collect on your scam!  

You may thank me now for answering your question... But hey I have been trying to answer your question since October!

He stuck around because you can shear a sheep many times but you can only eat it once. Once people stopped falling for his scams, he said goodbye, what's a little online abuse if it allows you to dump more coins and come up with more shady deals to get people to give you money.

agree, he did literally everything to milk more out of hashtards. I remember him using his kids to get more sympathy... that guy is mental
Well Goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlVu7Y5m5JQ
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in case you missed it on twitter:
Coinstand Ticket number 338 AND 264, apparently my ticket sending account has even been suspended wtf...
please refund my money  Cry
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Is this a record after mentioning that cloudminers 101 says scrypt.cc is a scam I was banned from hashclub.org from joining to banned 11 minutes.The owners of the site said your 1st amendment rights would not be violated,like anything they say its just a lie.How can you be banned for quoting a news article in the public domain

Would you like to post the PMs you claimed to have received from MrCEO on Hashtalk?
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Good Bye.....For Now
MrCEO

It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

So has anyone answered Joshypoo's question yet?

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer?

Ummm??? The answer is YES Josh you would and the reason you took that risk is because you are an uneducated, illiterate yokel with few redeeming skills... so you subjected yourself and them to this abuse to collect on the one and only payday you have ever had and likely will have so yes you would subject anyone you had to subject to the abuse to collect on your scam!  

You may thank me now for answering your question... But hey I have been trying to answer your question since October!

He stuck around because you can shear a sheep many times but you can only eat it once. Once people stopped falling for his scams, he said goodbye, what's a little online abuse if it allows you to dump more coins and come up with more shady deals to get people to give you money.

agree, he did literally everything to milk more out of hashtards. I remember him using his kids to get more sympathy... that guy is mental
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-now



Good Bye.....For Now
MrCEO

It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

So has anyone answered Joshypoo's question yet?

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer?

Ummm??? The answer is YES Josh you would and the reason you took that risk is because you are an uneducated, illiterate yokel with few redeeming skills... so you subjected yourself and them to this abuse to collect on the one and only payday you have ever had and likely will have so yes you would subject anyone you had to subject to the abuse to collect on your scam!  

You may thank me now for answering your question... But hey I have been trying to answer your question since October!

He stuck around because you can shear a sheep many times but you can only eat it once. Once people stopped falling for his scams, he said goodbye, what's a little online abuse if it allows you to dump more coins and come up with more shady deals to get people to give you money.
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it always surprised me when he said that. its not the first time


well Bernard L. Madoff stayed around for decades Smiley

While I don't either personally, I think Bernie would take offense at the comparison. Bernie "worked" with Billions (with a capital B).
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it always surprised me when he said that. its not the first time


well Bernard L. Madoff stayed around for decades Smiley
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it always surprised me when he said that. its not the first time
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https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37911/good-bye-for-now



Good Bye.....For Now
MrCEO

It’s time to say good-bye. Good-bye to Paycoin and to the “leaders” of what can only be described as the now “tainted” Paycoin. While saying good bye is the end of involvement in the management of Paycoin, it’s NOT goodbye to Paycoin loyalists and investors.

Sadly, since the hijacking, extortion and subsequent theft of all the Paycoin controllers, the strength and value of Paycoin has only gone one place: down. It’s been weakened. Terribly. Since the end of January / beginning of February the value has one from well over $1.00, closer to $2.00 to just over $0.10. Wow.

I haven’t been involved in Paycoin, at all, in about a month…maybe longer.

The hijacking and subsequent extortion of Paycoin was done with the intent of decentralizing the coin. Not a bad intention, something had I been involved, would have agreed. But if one were to look now, the Paycoin Foundation is managing all the Paycoin Prime Controllers. How did that happen? How did they end up with just about all of them? Where is the “paper trail” that legitimizes their possession? Does anyone that is standing by this really care? (Asked rhetorically). I guess to some, apparently many, this is a version of being decentralized being managed by a single entity. But the “advocates” are good with that. Defies logic.

Today’s Paycoin is akin to blood diamonds (save for the lives lost), stolen from their rightful owners…investors, GAW and others. This method of operation has been extended to Mineral, which has also been hijacked…stolen by a “trusted” member of the community. And there was a requested vote by the thief as to what to do with Mineral. Imagine voting on what to do with the millions of dollars in jewelry obtained by the Pink Panthers. Who does that? People with zero integrity. People with no boundaries.

There is no integrity whatsoever in Paycoin in its current state. None. And what of those former employees of GAW who now are involved? None.

I’ve been called a scammer. A fraud. And so much more. My family threatened. Violated in ways unimaginable. But many are good with that…mostly a former senior manager and interim CEO at GAW who trolled us, then joined us, stood next to us and then aided those that stole from us.

But it’s all good, as many wish to stand next these folks. Have at it.

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer? Something that could help change the way we conduct business both personally and commercially? These are questions I am sure many are afraid to ask, as the truth is obvious but hard to admit. For many involved in this underhandedness it would appear that being right is way more important for those individuals than being happy; happiness clearly eludes them.

Whether wrong or right in what was alleged, it seems there is a consensus that feels by doing wrong will make all things right. That NEVER happens. In fact, they are doing the same things as has been alleged that GAW did. As I said earlier, Paycoin is tainted like blood diamonds. Led by hypocrites.

I have stayed in this, as I have wanted to make things right for the investors of Paycoin as well as those that have stood by us…by me. And I will continue to do that, however I can. My goal…our goal was to foster adoption and utility of cryptocurrencies. The intention of Paycoin was just that. And I will continue towards fulfilling that goal.

I continue to look for way to make it right for our investors. But not everyone will be happy. I / we will try and do the best we can towards that end. I am not abandoning Paycoin, but going forward will have nothing to do with the leadership of Paycoin. I haven’t in over a month. And it’s just been in a downward spiral since being hijacked, stolen and extorted.

Perhaps that has to do with fact that these “leaders” simply don’t have the collective brainpower to realize the mission…the vision that was seen and started by others than themselves. That usually happens; when the vision or idea of another is stolen, the thieves are typically not successful in making those plans come to fruition. That seems to be happening with Paycoin.

All that said, I can not keep a single investor interested in Paycoin initiatives. They know my background, but as soon as they learn of the leaders, prime controllers, and a community that seems to largely be ok with stuff like this happening, They don’t want to risk their investment being taken from a “community” leader to only find the community be largely ok with it. Honestly, I cant blame them.

The funding was pulled from Paybase Redux, all the beta customers have been refunded. I have paid for CoinStand two times once to Adam, then to Phil. Two times is one too many.

I can not speak to coin card with any authority, but that seems to still be on track.

I have no good news to report today, just the truth. All hope is not gone. We have been diligently working with a firm to take back what was taken. This would restore investor confidence and get things moving again. So for now, it has to be the focus.

Some interesting times are ahead.

So has anyone answered Joshypoo's question yet?

If I were a scammer, a fraud, do you really think I would stick around and subject myself to the abuse as I have? Put my family through it? Trying to salvage something that I hoped would be a game changer?

Ummm??? The answer is YES Josh you would and the reason you took that risk is because you are an uneducated, illiterate yokel with few redeeming skills... so you subjected yourself and them to this abuse to collect on the one and only payday you have ever had and likely will have so yes you would subject anyone you had to subject to the abuse to collect on your scam!  

You may thank me now for answering your question... But hey I have been trying to answer your question since October!
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the money is of course not spent thats just unicorns and rainbows talk

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do you think a guy who was selling his childrens toys, ripping his home to pieces is rolling in dough? (these are documented facts released to the public)
of course not

Sounds like he did a "Pacific Heights" job on that rental home. Shame.
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