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The Scamcoats are coming!
So... I keep reading over on HT that Mineral is coming out with a debit card soon... say they do that, and even let the folks buy the debit card with XPY... won't that be like a vacuum sucking down the price when the debit card starts auto-converting to USD or what ever currency the local gas station wants to get off of the card? I'm having trouble understanding how the debit card is going to help the situation... what am I missing?

Debit card is just the latest attempt of "something" in a list of things to make it look like they are doing something to make the price go up, but it won't actually work.

To increase the price they need to reduce the supply or increase the demand. Can't reduce the supply, the only way anyone has made any money on this shit show is "create coins out of thin air, sell to idiots," so lets increase the demand.

If there is something to do with paycoins (debit card, coinstand) whatever, people will want/need to buy paycoins to do the thing, and make the price go up. That's as far as they go, so they spend lots of time and energy trying to come up with "things" (coinstand, honors program, debit cards, other assorted nonsense) to give people a reason to buy the coin. The problem with all of this is that there are so many people stuck with so many coins that the price went up. People that bought coins from anywhere from 20 cents to 20 dollars aren't going to buy more to use coinstand or a debit card or whatever. They will just use coins they already have, and then the person at the other end will have to sell their coins to pay their bills, so the price will just go further down until everyone gives up.

You are overlooking the other half of merchant acceptance of a coin. The important part.  Say people buy the coin to use, which in itself is far fetched (why use a Credit Card to buy BTC to then buy Paycoins when you could just use the CC to buy what you want??), but lets say people do this and then spend them. What do the merchants do with them? They DUMP them. Immediately, and at whatever the current high buy bid is. This creates continuous downward pressure on a coin market. Once this is in place, people placing Buy Bids know this and keep reducing their Buy Bids, creating a race to the bottom of the price scale. This is one of the things that Bitcoin is struggling with right now. At some point the market is robust enough to absorb this, but the Paycoin market is nowhere near being able to support even minor merchant acceptance without tanking the price.
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So... I keep reading over on HT that Mineral is coming out with a debit card soon... say they do that, and even let the folks buy the debit card with XPY... won't that be like a vacuum sucking down the price when the debit card starts auto-converting to USD or what ever currency the local gas station wants to get off of the card? I'm having trouble understanding how the debit card is going to help the situation... what am I missing?

Debit card is just the latest attempt of "something" in a list of things to make it look like they are doing something to make the price go up, but it won't actually work.

To increase the price they need to reduce the supply or increase the demand. Can't reduce the supply, the only way anyone has made any money on this shit show is "create coins out of thin air, sell to idiots," so lets increase the demand.

If there is something to do with paycoins (debit card, coinstand) whatever, people will want/need to buy paycoins to do the thing, and make the price go up. That's as far as they go, so they spend lots of time and energy trying to come up with "things" (coinstand, honors program, debit cards, other assorted nonsense) to give people a reason to buy the coin. The problem with all of this is that there are so many people stuck with so many coins that the price went up. People that bought coins from anywhere from 20 cents to 20 dollars aren't going to buy more to use coinstand or a debit card or whatever. They will just use coins they already have, and then the person at the other end will have to sell their coins to pay their bills, so the price will just go further down until everyone gives up.
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The Scamcoats are coming!
Well that's fucking horrifying

Somebody is trying to pump up this turd.  I have a hard time believing anybody besides Josh is buying them at this point, everybody knows it's only going down



Battle of the free Paycoin dumpers trying to pump up some buy bid support. Check out that support  push wall @.0007 that was following the pump. GONE! LMAO. The dumpers are eating each others pump attempts, just as I predicted.



Bahahahahaha!
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Well that's fucking horrifying

Somebody is trying to pump up this turd.  I have a hard time believing anybody besides Josh is buying them at this point, everybody knows it's only going down

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GHS (SHA-256) mining is once again enabled, unpaused and working. The Bitcoin price has remained stable, but the mining difficulty, which adjusts every 10 days, decreased yesterday. Profits are now above electricity/maintenance costs so we could turn it back on. Here's what's new:

-Paycoin/XPY will be removed, please withdraw any coins when you can

-New THS cloud mining contracts should be available in a month, running on newer ASICs than the old GHS and have lower electricity costs

Until next time...happy mining,
-The Eobot Team
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WOW this emails are just something else it really seems like there is no stop to any of it any time soon just seems to want more and more no matter what is going on

Yep. It's like the best reality show on (non) tv to be honest.  Wink
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Strategy meeting after the Miami Bitcoin Conference debacle. This Email is in the Paycoin_launch_Dan Mbox. No mention of the goons Josh had following him around spooking all of the normal business people there. Just their PR firm talking about how to put lipstick on a pig and a muzzle on Homero the Clown.









Where art thou, Homero?




WOW this emails are just something else it really seems like there is no stop to any of it any time soon just seems to want more and more no matter what is going on
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Anybody know why Matlock doesn't show up on Clearpoint web site? Lost the position or are they just hiding that he works there? And why the fuck can't he spell? I have a nephew in middle school with a better grasp of the language.

This is old. They redid their site since this but he made it through the redesign.
http://web.archive.org/web/20150204064322/http://clearpoint.org/index.php/2012-05-08-17-11-38/ourteam

He was listed as Director of Communications on the newer version. He isn't on that page now, and no Director of Communications is listed any longer. Did they move the page, or did the Communications Director realize it wasn't great marketing for the church to be associated with him? That's pretty fucking bad when a church distances itself from you...
http://clearpoint.org/people-profiles/

Look who else is posing with a kid...


Fucking misspelling shit again... Christ, I hope the kid in that pic isn't learning English from this guy.


https://www.google.com/search?q=clearpoint+church+matlock&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb
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Hey, while you're here, would you mind explaining how a humble church pastor managed to scare up hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy prime controllers? You wouldn't have misappropriated your churches' funds by any chance? Surely as a "man of god", that would be deplorable. Right?

Sure,

As ive stated publicly before. It was a group purchase with multiple friends and family (some even used portion of retirement funds).  Absolutely no funds from any organization including my church were used.

Congratulations on scamming your friends and family, then, I guess. You're a real stand-up dude.

Ps. Adam, you say "some even used portion of retirement funds" as if that's something to be proud of? I hope you've got extra couches in your basement because when granny and grampa lose their entire retirement nest egg, it's gonna be your fault, and you'd better be prepared to provide room and board for them and all your now-homeless friends.

But Adam has no plans at all for dumping Paycoins from his Prime Controllers. He is just running the scam "non-profit" he suggested to Josh for the fun of it. Why would he want to pay back all of his friends and familiy that he suckered into this scam?

No no no he said in the video he's only in it to help and lots of talk of giving to charity and giving to the team and community all those feel good things.  Pay no attention to all those bad things Homero did Adam and the fellowship of the primes are the good guys  Wink I mean we can all trust Joe Mordica right.  He's such a stand up guy he's even volunteering now and he's with XPYtrust y u no trust?
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The Scamcoats are coming!


Hey, while you're here, would you mind explaining how a humble church pastor managed to scare up hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy prime controllers? You wouldn't have misappropriated your churches' funds by any chance? Surely as a "man of god", that would be deplorable. Right?

Sure,

As ive stated publicly before. It was a group purchase with multiple friends and family (some even used portion of retirement funds).  Absolutely no funds from any organization including my church were used.

Congratulations on scamming your friends and family, then, I guess. You're a real stand-up dude.

Ps. Adam, you say "some even used portion of retirement funds" as if that's something to be proud of? I hope you've got extra couches in your basement because when granny and grampa lose their entire retirement nest egg, it's gonna be your fault, and you'd better be prepared to provide room and board for them and all your now-homeless friends.

But Adam has no plans at all for dumping Paycoins from his Prime Controllers. He is just running the scam "non-profit" he suggested to Josh for the fun of it. Why would he want to pay back all of his friends and familiy that he suckered into this scam?
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Hey, while you're here, would you mind explaining how a humble church pastor managed to scare up hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy prime controllers? You wouldn't have misappropriated your churches' funds by any chance? Surely as a "man of god", that would be deplorable. Right?
Sure,
As ive stated publicly before. It was a group purchase with multiple friends and family (some even used portion of retirement funds).  Absolutely no funds from any organization including my church were used.
I think you probably will want to use the Jesus and the Money Changers sermon with them... clearly your temple has had all its money expelled from it!  Grin
But seriously dude you are supposed to be a church pastor WTF were you thinking???

It's called a failure in discernment. Garza was already in trouble with the hardware business and the cracks were showing. But, when a guy that didn't even gross $170k last year runs around in his debt enabled fancy stuff saying that you could be insanely wealthy in only a few months. Guess you put your brain on hold and chuck everything the church ever taught you about stewardship over funds and go racing after that golden-egg laying goose and justify it by telling yourself that you think God is saying that's how He intends to provide for you, through a guy who already has a history of lying to his customers... because, you know... that father of all lies is Satan, so, even small lies should be huge red flags on the play, but not if you're gonna be rich! That's different, then the little lies are okay, cuz... money! money! money! Where else you gonna be able to print your own money? or buy $20 bills for just $5?  

And, I double-down-bet that garza called those controllers money printing machines, that's why he expected people to want to bid on them twice a year. Who in their right mind is even going to hit the starting bid on those thing... wasn't it something like USD$500k?  their coins are valued at roughly $18k right now. With all this mess going on, they're getting to within 45 days of the planned bidding period... are they going to just put that off like everything else?


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Hey, while you're here, would you mind explaining how a humble church pastor managed to scare up hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy prime controllers? You wouldn't have misappropriated your churches' funds by any chance? Surely as a "man of god", that would be deplorable. Right?

Sure,

As ive stated publicly before. It was a group purchase with multiple friends and family (some even used portion of retirement funds).  Absolutely no funds from any organization including my church were used.

Congratulations on scamming your friends and family, then, I guess. You're a real stand-up dude.

Ps. Adam, you say "some even used portion of retirement funds" as if that's something to be proud of? I hope you've got extra couches in your basement because when granny and grampa lose their entire retirement nest egg, it's gonna be your fault, and you'd better be prepared to provide room and board for them and all your now-homeless friends.
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Hey, while you're here, would you mind explaining how a humble church pastor managed to scare up hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy prime controllers? You wouldn't have misappropriated your churches' funds by any chance? Surely as a "man of god", that would be deplorable. Right?

Sure,

As ive stated publicly before. It was a group purchase with multiple friends and family (some even used portion of retirement funds).  Absolutely no funds from any organization including my church were used.

I think you probably will want to use the Jesus and the Money Changers sermon with them... clearly your temple has had all its money expelled from it!  Grin

But seriously dude you are supposed to be a church pastor WTF were you thinking???
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made me giggle  Grin


the sad truth is this:


HODLERs are already DEAD! and now the few people deeply involved are trying to find the life boats. Garza is going down tho  Grin

Classic... Jumping ship doesn't make sense!! Is that what the captain says? Grin

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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!

Shit, even old (Young?) "Lewiscooper" is finally growing (Sort of?) half a brain -

@Lewiscooper

might just swap all my paycoins for archcoin look 10x better!

These people are beyond hope, ffs.  Huh
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