Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 861. (Read 3377945 times)
April 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
It would be interesting to hear from Joe,
a. How did he convince the power company to keep the power on so long and not pay their bill? At home they shut mine off after 15 days late.
b. How did he ever come to be involved in with Josh in a small town far from Connecticut? Why didn't he do his homework before he took the job? Maybe he did? I don't know the answer.
c. Is he going to be personally responsible for this bill since he signed for it? Wow! That would suck!
April 17, 2015, 02:55:03 PM
April 17, 2015, 02:54:08 PM
The charity thing is probably a legit mistake. I have a vague recollection of an email chain where he asked how many 911 hashlets were sold, someone told him the number, and he was like, "o shit."
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
exacly. you get it kid
FUCKING LIES! 
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets/3
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/20
To be specific, when we launched 911 Hashlets, we did not commitment about donating any money. They were all purchased under the assumption of it being a retail Hashlet.
It was not until after they were sold, we thought about it, and decided to donate the funds. At that time, I was told 10k worth of 911 Hashlets had been sold, and that's what we committed to donating to the 911 fund.
I later found out more were sold, so we decided to divide those up into other charities.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets/3
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Its been interesting to read all the feedback about this......
While the majority has been positive, its very clear many do not understand our objective. So I am going to change our approach to make the objective more clear. I hope this shows you that we listen.
We will only sell 500 RememberHashlets, at the current ZenHashet prices, this will put them just over $10,000 in total sales income
GAW will donate 100% of the sales money to the 911 memorial fund. This way, GAW will in no way be profiting from any sales related to the cause.
Hope makes everyone happy (I never stop trying
)
While the majority has been positive, its very clear many do not understand our objective. So I am going to change our approach to make the objective more clear. I hope this shows you that we listen.
We will only sell 500 RememberHashlets, at the current ZenHashet prices, this will put them just over $10,000 in total sales income
GAW will donate 100% of the sales money to the 911 memorial fund. This way, GAW will in no way be profiting from any sales related to the cause.
Hope makes everyone happy (I never stop trying
)https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/20
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To be specific, when we launched 911 Hashlets, we did not commitment about donating any money. They were all purchased under the assumption of it being a retail Hashlet.
It was not until after they were sold, we thought about it, and decided to donate the funds. At that time, I was told 10k worth of 911 Hashlets had been sold, and that's what we committed to donating to the 911 fund.
I later found out more were sold, so we decided to divide those up into other charities.
take a lookie https://hashtalk.org/topic/5710. nothing bout limit or charidy then. stop fudding.
April 17, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
The slimy bastard is laying it on thicker and heavier, as if admitting to a lie suddenly makes it not a lie.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/31
Archive: https://archive.today/H77G9
Got it, loud and clear, you are admitting that you raised money for a 9/11 charity and then did not donate all of it to a 9/11 charity. Busted, asshole.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/31
Archive: https://archive.today/H77G9
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At that time, I was told 10k worth of 911 Hashlets had been sold, and that's what we committed to donating to the 911 fund.
Got it, loud and clear, you are admitting that you raised money for a 9/11 charity and then did not donate all of it to a 9/11 charity. Busted, asshole.
April 17, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
Josh is backed in to a corner and starting panic and blurt things out that make it perfectly clear that he was commiting fraud with the Remember Hashlets. The lying fucking prick is now saying that he does not have to disclose the charitable contributions the corporation makes.: https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/17
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
i can totaly see that "company acused of Giving extra money to Wrong Charity and seling to much hashlets!" nobody cares get a life fuddster
lik e dude
we were only going to sell 500. never promisd to giv more than that to charty. we donated anyway, what more you be want??
A little birdie just told me that MrCEO sent some of that money to his church! Maybe someone should call them up and let them know their savior is a crook?
http://www.newdaychurch.cc/
http://www.facebook.com/newdaychurch.cc
New Day Church
Meeting Location:
Basketball Hall of Fame
1000 W. Columbus Avenue
Springfield MA 01105
Tel: (413) 241-3070
Fax: (413) 304-6070
[email protected]
Actually I think it was rumored that the church was being used by Josh/Adam for laundering
April 17, 2015, 02:51:44 PM
Even if I would want to help PayCoin directly, for the most part I can't/won't because of moral reasons and for me it's much better to work on PayCon. They asked me if I wanted to help them with the original roadmap, I asked them if they wanted to outlay some of the ideas on PayCon instead.
Wasn't suggesting collaboration, just giving a technical hand following request as you already did. April 17, 2015, 02:51:29 PM
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a local program for veterans, a shoe drive that was happening then, and a donation of one of the local churches in the area.
Would that local church happen to be Clearpoint?
Nope, this one.
http://www.newdaychurch.cc/
http://www.facebook.com/newdaychurch.cc
New Day Church
Meeting Location:
Basketball Hall of Fame
1000 W. Columbus Avenue
Springfield MA 01105
Tel: (413) 241-3070
Fax: (413) 304-6070
[email protected]
April 17, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
The charity thing is probably a legit mistake. I have a vague recollection of an email chain where he asked how many 911 hashlets were sold, someone told him the number, and he was like, "o shit."
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
I'm sorry but the law does not care if your mistake is "legit"
But i think you know this too.
Actually, it does. Fraud requires intent, as does illegal misappropriation.
To clarify, this is fraud in the way that all hashlet sales are fraudulent, but I don't see the evidence that he intended to defraud a charity. I don't think there's any additional fraud going on beyond what occurs during an ordinary hashlet sale. I think it's a fuck up followed by an ugly resistance to make up the difference. There were a lot of really incompetent people making a lot of poor decisions (like the entire concept of Paycoin) and making a lot of mistakes. This smells like a fuck up.
April 17, 2015, 02:49:24 PM
Josh is backed in to a corner and starting panic and blurt things out that make it perfectly clear that he was commiting fraud with the Remember Hashlets. The lying fucking prick is now saying that he does not have to disclose the charitable contributions the corporation makes.: https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/17
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
i can totaly see that "company acused of Giving extra money to Wrong Charity and seling to much hashlets!" nobody cares get a life fuddster
lik e dude
we were only going to sell 500. never promisd to giv more than that to charty. we donated anyway, what more you be want??
A little birdie just told me that MrCEO sent some of that money to his church! Maybe someone should call them up and let them know their savior is a crook?
http://www.newdaychurch.cc/
http://www.facebook.com/newdaychurch.cc
New Day Church
Meeting Location:
Basketball Hall of Fame
1000 W. Columbus Avenue
Springfield MA 01105
Tel: (413) 241-3070
Fax: (413) 304-6070
[email protected]
April 17, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
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a local program for veterans, a shoe drive that was happening then, and a donation of one of the local churches in the area.
Would that local church happen to be Clearpoint?
April 17, 2015, 02:48:57 PM
Josh flailing and digging himself deeper and deeper into the ground. Still not answering Double007's question. Guess we know the answer, don't we?
What time is it in Dubai Josh? FYI, I wouldn't try pulling the same scam over in Dubai, their penalties might make you wish for a jail cell in levinworth here in the good ol' USA
[SOUND OF CRICKETS CHIRPING]
What time is it in Dubai Josh? FYI, I wouldn't try pulling the same scam over in Dubai, their penalties might make you wish for a jail cell in levinworth here in the good ol' USA
Quote from: Double007
That is great news and would really help quell the FUD if proved. You mean cash donations to IRS qualified tax exempt charities correct? Just for clarity and to end people's anger, it would be really good to confirm that GAW made $100K in cash donations to IRS qualified tax exempt charities... and that you are not just making a claim based on the transfers of GAW assets to related entities (Paycoin Foundation, Paybase, or transfers or Prime Controllers or paycoins to related entities).
Quote from: GAWCEO
I appreciate that, but I am ok with people not believing it. We did not do it to get credit.
Should we be contacted by any agency about it, we can provide the appropriate documentation.
The last thing I want to do is put these charities on the end of these trolls by naming them all.
Should we be contacted by any agency about it, we can provide the appropriate documentation.
The last thing I want to do is put these charities on the end of these trolls by naming them all.
Quote from: Double007
I understand you not wanting to subject a bunch of charities to crazy people calling and e-mailing them. Got that. I was really just asking to confirm that the money went as cash donations to IRS qualified tax exempt charities, and that you are not counting (for example) transferring Prime Controllers to the Paycoin Foundation, or Paycoins to Paycoin LLC. I mean, the promise was that all of the proceeds (which were cash since you don't take XPY) went to the charity you named. At the very least, all of the cash proceeds should have gone to a legitimate charity, in cash, I will take you word for it, but I am asking that you make it very clear here.
Quote from: GAWCEO
[SOUND OF CRICKETS CHIRPING]
April 17, 2015, 02:47:57 PM
i can totaly see that "company acused of Giving extra money to Wrong Charity and seling to much hashlets!" nobody cares get a life fuddster
lik e dude
we were only going to sell 500. never promisd to giv more than that to charty. we donated anyway, what more you be want??
The problem is you 3rd grade educated dolt, you keep speaking and your not smart enough to keep your lies straight at this point.
April 17, 2015, 02:46:30 PM
They're just now starting to ask, "MrCEO, why are you banning highly reputable people with good questions?"
MrCEO: "because they're showing you shills the truth.. can't have that."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/32w9b3/gaw_miners_lied_about_the_911_donation/
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/20
April 17, 2015, 02:44:33 PM
Josh is backed in to a corner and starting panic and blurt things out that make it perfectly clear that he was commiting fraud with the Remember Hashlets. The lying fucking prick is now saying that he does not have to disclose the charitable contributions the corporation makes.: https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/17
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
i can totaly see that "company acused of Giving extra money to Wrong Charity and seling to much hashlets!" nobody cares get a life fuddster
lik e dude
we were only going to sell 500. never promisd to giv more than that to charty. we donated anyway, what more you be want??
Sup dog, does Stu's cock taste like candy or should we ask your wife ?
Legit question, dont ban me big-dog.
April 17, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
The charity thing is probably a legit mistake. I have a vague recollection of an email chain where he asked how many 911 hashlets were sold, someone told him the number, and he was like, "o shit."
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
Fraud has to be premeditated. Misappropriation is intentional. I don't think this was either. He probably botched the part of the system that was supposed to put a cap on the sales, and he probably had all sales money go into the same account as regular hashlet sales. By the time he realized that he sold too many, the money was spent, and all he had left was the $10k he actually did set aside for charity.
IF that were his only sin... meh...
But, he has a complete pattern of making it up as he goes along and if he doesn't care to keep his technical house in order... that shouldn't be a valid defense. He's had months to get it straight and only made a donation AFTER it started to make noise on the Internet. So, I'm going with Occam's razor and saying he used the money for his data center move instead.
April 17, 2015, 02:43:27 PM
Josh is backed in to a corner and starting panic and blurt things out that make it perfectly clear that he was commiting fraud with the Remember Hashlets. The lying fucking prick is now saying that he does not have to disclose the charitable contributions the corporation makes.: https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/17
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
Archive: https://archive.today/ukFXP
https://i.imgur.com/s8bu5QN.jpg
Get him boys! Make him keep lying himself into a deeper hole!
https://i.imgur.com/og1TvZD.jpg
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
i can totaly see that "company acused of Giving extra money to Wrong Charity and seling to much hashlets!" nobody cares get a life fuddster
lik e dude
we were only going to sell 500. never promisd to giv more than that to charty. we donated anyway, what more you be want??
April 17, 2015, 02:41:09 PM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36588/idea-to-make-xpy-dumping-having-less-effect-on-the-price/18
Archive: https://archive.today/vG6Gr
Attaboy, Quint! Hang on and ride it out, Bro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmeeYwEiQw
April 17, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
Josh is so full of shit. The donation was made on November 3, Weeks after the sales were complete.
Looks like the made a $10,000 donation:
I have no idea how that translates into the 48K 911 Hashlets they claim to have sold (my recollection)
Is there an archive of the original statements made?
This is from one of GAWs affiliate sites
Anyone come across anything about the Remember 911 Hashlets and the charity donation that may or may not have happened?
Bump! I'm also interested in this.
I've sent the memorial an email
Was the agreement to donate the first 10K in proceeds or all proceeds? The emails above https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11108250 show 48K brought in total.
Anyone come across anything about the Remember 911 Hashlets and the charity donation that may or may not have happened?
Looks like the made a $10,000 donation:
Code:
From: Joyce Flick
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM
Subject: America's 911 Foundation Donation
To: [email protected]
Juliette Dunlevy,
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Thank you very much for the
$10,000.00 donation which we received today.
Would you please provide me the information of your company and CEO,
including the name so that we may send a proper thank you for this
wonderful donation.
I am not sure if you saw the presentation our President and Vice President
made to Fairfield Police Department in October. Each year on our annual
ride we draw a name from the police officers who escort the ride and
present them with a brand new, fully police equipped motorcycle. And this
year it was presented to Fairfield CT Police Department. I know that it
was in the newspapers and I believe it was televised at one point.
Again, thank you so much for the generous donation.
Respectfully,
Joyce
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:42 PM
Subject: America's 911 Foundation Donation
To: [email protected]
Juliette Dunlevy,
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Thank you very much for the
$10,000.00 donation which we received today.
Would you please provide me the information of your company and CEO,
including the name so that we may send a proper thank you for this
wonderful donation.
I am not sure if you saw the presentation our President and Vice President
made to Fairfield Police Department in October. Each year on our annual
ride we draw a name from the police officers who escort the ride and
present them with a brand new, fully police equipped motorcycle. And this
year it was presented to Fairfield CT Police Department. I know that it
was in the newspapers and I believe it was televised at one point.
Again, thank you so much for the generous donation.
Respectfully,
Joyce
I have no idea how that translates into the 48K 911 Hashlets they claim to have sold (my recollection)
Is there an archive of the original statements made?
This is from one of GAWs affiliate sites
April 17, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
FUCKING LIES!
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets/3
https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/20
To be specific, when we launched 911 Hashlets, we did not commitment about donating any money. They were all purchased under the assumption of it being a retail Hashlet.
It was not until after they were sold, we thought about it, and decided to donate the funds. At that time, I was told 10k worth of 911 Hashlets had been sold, and that's what we committed to donating to the 911 fund.
I later found out more were sold, so we decided to divide those up into other charities.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5725/500-rememberhashlets/3
Quote
Its been interesting to read all the feedback about this......
While the majority has been positive, its very clear many do not understand our objective. So I am going to change our approach to make the objective more clear. I hope this shows you that we listen.
We will only sell 500 RememberHashlets, at the current ZenHashet prices, this will put them just over $10,000 in total sales income
GAW will donate 100% of the sales money to the 911 memorial fund. This way, GAW will in no way be profiting from any sales related to the cause.
Hope makes everyone happy (I never stop trying)
While the majority has been positive, its very clear many do not understand our objective. So I am going to change our approach to make the objective more clear. I hope this shows you that we listen.
We will only sell 500 RememberHashlets, at the current ZenHashet prices, this will put them just over $10,000 in total sales income
GAW will donate 100% of the sales money to the 911 memorial fund. This way, GAW will in no way be profiting from any sales related to the cause.
Hope makes everyone happy (I never stop trying
)https://hashtalk.org/topic/36666/remember-hashlets/20
Quote
To be specific, when we launched 911 Hashlets, we did not commitment about donating any money. They were all purchased under the assumption of it being a retail Hashlet.
It was not until after they were sold, we thought about it, and decided to donate the funds. At that time, I was told 10k worth of 911 Hashlets had been sold, and that's what we committed to donating to the 911 fund.
I later found out more were sold, so we decided to divide those up into other charities.
April 17, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
This IS the type of thing that Lamestream Media might pick up on. Particularly regarding Stu Fraser's involvement in GAW.
HA! Stu's charity was probably the recipient of at least $80k of that $100k in donations as payback for his loan, only through his personal charity so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on it and GAW Miners could deduct taxes for it...
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