Topic: Gawminers.com really or scam ? - page 2. (Read 5691 times)

Am yet to order with them so I  have no idea on their quality of good but seeing reviews seems their ok compared to a lot of other such as KNC and rigs blowing up or not working or units coming arrived as broken or being tampered with. I will continue to wait and see before I decided on doing anything as am sure their will be more company s to choose from soon and waiting on 3 or more to see if they are a success or are a scam

yes the wait is really boring,
but the next week we can get a cheaper price but as long wait.

if you've done many orders there?
how do you think the quality of their goods?

Nice to see more people getting their orders forfilled. The only problem I do not like is the so called pre orders. Once they have finished if they will go to buy now then ill put my orders in but until pre orders change I wont order as so tired of pre orders and waiting weeks on end before even getting equipment.

yes they are real,
I've ordered them and the goods arrived my country now live attendant deliver to my address,
and I will try their products run well

I dont think they are scammers as i have seen they are completely a full company, indeed they are one of the few mining companies on which i would trust.

Good talking to you Panda. I see you're at it again with your made up shit instead of responding on the subject. Keep going and have a nice weekend.


GAW didn't honor my RMA. It's a fact. I'm sorry you didn't like it but it's a fact. I eventually sold the defective item via craigslist to someone who knew how to fix it. And - you'll like this - I included a USB cable with it for free


Where did you offer to do that? I might have missed it. But see below.


That's because I'm clearly capable of asking "the company" myself, and did so many times via support. You keep interrogating me so it's a natural question - what do you want from me?


"you lack basic understanding of the law" - not true.
"You're working hard every day to advertise against a legitimate business" - not true.
"You're actively approaching random people and influencing their choices" - not true but perhaps by "random people" you meant forum users and by "approaching" you meant me posting here.
"you're doing this every single day since last month" - not true.
"you're either mentally unstable or paid to do it" - not true but perhaps could be classified as an opinion.


That's a long last word. Love those.

1) I already stated that I do not have any demands to you or GAW, so you can lay that to rest.
2) When the CEO asked me to stop posting in the self-moderated thread I stopped, so I respect forum rules. That doesn't mean I must like the practice of deleting posts or any of the other questionable marketing practices employed by GAW.
3) Settle? You sound dangerously close to offering me a payoff for shutting up. I hope that's just a misunderstanding. How many figures are we talking about? Just kidding, don't get all excited now.

This part should be a sticky everywhere you go posting about GAW, because it sums up this whole conversation we had.

You lie GAW doesn't respect RMA, yet you say your miners are working and are buying more "because they are cheap".

I say, get the list of things you didn't get and I'll send it to GAW for you, you ignore it.

I ask you what you want from the company you're attacking, you answer by asking me what I want from you...

What is more, you lack basic understanding of the law, you have the right to express your opinion, but what you're doing here is a different thing. You're working hard every day to advertise against a legitimate business. You're actively approaching random people and influencing their choices, and you're doing this every single day since last month. That's why I'll say this again you're either mentally unstable or paid to do it.

My opinion is you never wanted to settle with GAW, and never cared about any refund, you're having fun trolling GAW threads.

My last word to you:
1. If your order was incomplete let me know what it is that you were lacking and GAW will send it to you, I'll personally support your claim.
2. If 1 is not an issue and you're just mad because they deleted your posts in a moderated thread, they had a right to do so, by posting in a self moderated thread you agree to this, just ask a mod.
3. I'm almost certain you won't settle for any kind of compensation and will continue this black PR, you were probably already compensated by their competition. We'll see in a few days.

I don't remember you asking me that, but if you did I apologize if I didn't respond. Please give me the link and I'll post a reply right away.

I didn't pick "1 small sentence", I quoted the whole post. Twice. Bolded false statements presented as facts, but you can address it as a whole, no problem. Is it true or false, can't be that hard?

I don't have any demands, not particular enjoyment in this except occasionally something like you here trying to wiggle out of your lies, that makes me smile

Why don't you just tell us all what exactly do you want from me. Stop posting what I think? Not a chance. Stop buying from GAW? Depends on how this latest one goes. What else?

I asked you multiple times in your thread weeks ago, when you started whining, why you don't want to return the hardware and get a refund, but was ignored.

And of course I bet I won't get that list of demands from you, simply because you're enjoying this whole thing. You're an attention seeker and like going back and forth with me and attacking a legitimate business.
And you just proved this by picking just 1 small sentence out of my post and ignoring the rest.

Why don't you just tell us all what exactly do you want? Because otherwise we won't get anywhere.

This here is pretty much one big lie:


I asked you a couple of times to specifically address the bolded parts, since those were stated as facts known to you, but are not true, therefore lies. The rest of it is bollocks too although could be considered an opinion.

Yes there were other people who didn't get some minor thing like a cable but all of them contacted GAW and were taken care of. If you were this 1/1000 who didn't then I'm sorry, if you needed money to buy some $10 cables you should have just said so. Hell, I would've sent it to you myself if I could avoid arguing with you for 2 months.


In the last 2 months I've read at least 10 posts of people who had some issues, chose RMA option, and later posted that they got what they wanted, so I don't know what went wrong in your case.

Yeah, I can see you have a problem with GAW and me. A normal, sane person, would just say he's not satisfied, doesn't recommend the company and go on with his life.
You are deliberately working against GAW. Yes working, sitting here every day posting negative comments about them, researching threads where people ask about GAW to spread some negativity.

I never lied to anybody, and I loved your comparison, I wonder if you also spend an hour every day whining about GM

Edit: I have an idea. If you had problems contacting the support, why don't you just list the "missing parts" and pm me with it, I'll ask the support to check it out and send you the refund (strangely I always got my answer within hours.) If you had to buy an additional connector or whatever to keep your miners running add that as well. If you really don't have an agenda here we should be able to finish quickly and go separate ways.

Again, the part where I said I ordered "a lot" from GAW? Hello? You seem to be focused on your own version where there was only one order so it has to be either this or that.



Again, you should at the very least read the info you're disputing. The miners were fine with some minor exceptions. Gridseed cupcakes, Gridseed blades, haven't got the Fury yet but it's a Zeus Blizzard so I know what to expect.

I had problems with missing parts, orders delivered weeks late, non-existent RMA process, hosting hardware not working, etc. "delivered a product" does not absolve of any of that. "send it back" is not always a solution. Which part of this you still need help with?

I also have a problem with GAW (and you) deliberately lying to its existing and prospective customers. Again, if you had read the start of "my thread" you'd see that what prompted to start it was not an order issue. It was GAW deleting posts, which to my opinion is a dishonest practice employed to shore up company's public image and avoid addressing issues. And if that was a single isolated incident it would have died right there right then.

"people you clearly hate" - you seem to be taking this too personally. I don't "hate", I'm not 13 yo and not in a sect. I ordered from a business that I initially respected but now not so much. I have a low opinion of the CEO of said business and their marketing practices and customer service. Frankly I don't think too highly of Mary Barra or GMs service either but I rented a Chevy recently - that must be so weird.

Care to address the "inside knowledge" tidbits you posted earlier? One word - true or false?

I asked because you wrote this:


Now you're saying you actually did get it...

Ok, we're getting somewhere here. My next question is:
If you didn't like the miner why not send it back like a normal customer? Why spend 2 months insulting people who, as you just admitted, delivered a product?
And finally, why after all these months of whining and deliberate black PR, did you order another miner from people you clearly hate?

I bet I'm not the only one that thinks it's weird.

As far as I know everyone has been receiving their miners without issue.

Panda, if you had read at least the first couple of posts in "my thread" that you keep mentioning, you would know the answer to your question. Yes, I have received "something" from GAW.

I already told you I purchased the Fury because I needed it for a project and it was cheap. Don't know what else you feel is wrong with that. That I know what kind of delivery and service to expect so I can weigh the risk against the price? Are you now not only establishing qualifying criteria on who can post about GAW, but also on who can buy from them?

Just a few posts ago you stated in a clearly "matter of fact" context that I'm not dealing with GAW in any way, that I've been offered refund(s) - which allegedly I didn't want, that I refused to send some order back. It sounded like you have some inside knowledge except none of it was true. I wanted to address that but I should have known that your propensity to make stuff up as you go will lead this to another "brick wall".

I have ordered several fury miners to Canada and got them no problem Also ordered week 4 miners that I am waiting for now. The support I can say will go out of there way to make you happy and ensure your not loosing out money. Yes the support is busy at times and takes a bit to get through but I would recommend this company to anyone.

dogecoinbruh, if you have time look around hashmaster.com, gaw's own forum in its third iteration. It's getting out of hand apparently so they yanked all the various complaint threads and merged them (kudos for not deleting everything altogether). Which prompted more complaint threads now complaining about complaint threads being merged . It's hilarious although I have to give it to them, they are trying to plug all these holes in the dam with all their fingers and toes.

Hey Panda, a few questions:

I've been trying to find some background information on these companies, one of which being GAWminers. I'm sure you know Reactor, as he posts regularly here. How can such an active member of the bitcointalk community have such problems with GAW unless they were true? Why would he make up stuff about GAW and potentially ruin his reputation; I don't buy that he could have been hired by a competitor. Even if he was bought off, his claims could have been easily been poked full of holes in he was in fact spreading FUD.

Why were they deleting all his posts? Why delete posts at all unless you don't want anyone seeing them. Why not delete all the questions regarding orders too (the ones that were actually making that thread unsearchable). To top if off, they created their own SELFMODERATED thread. That's a red flag if I've ever seen one. Leave the arguably most active cryptocurrency forum to make your own forum so you can moderate threads and delete bad posts? That's BS and you know it.

Then, there's the case with Gridseed. Apparently their CEO got into an argument with Gridseed regarding compensation for customers, and ended up cutting ties with them. I remember reading the whole essay Josh posted about it, thinking to myself "Wow, this guy is really going to bat for his customers" which made me consider them in the first place. That post has since been deleted on their self moderated thread I believe, and they've created their own self moderated forums (go figure). They've been selling Blades again for awhile now, needless to say, I guess Josh made up with Gridseed.

This guy seems to be either the most customer oriented CEO in the world, or the mega king of bullshitters. I hope the first is true. I really do hope that the "conspiracy theories" you're talking about are exactly that, conspiracy theories.

I was going to order from GAW but saw all the posts saying how bad their service is (sending Pi's separately and not changing the values for customs? rookie mistake guys) on multiple sub reddits and here on bitcointalk.

I completely understand you're just a contracted worker offering tech support for them, but defending the company so vehemently makes it look like they're on the defensive, which shouldn't be the case. If this was all lies and FUD, they've had to respond to it once and ignore it from there. At least that's how it should be handled in my professional opinion.

Also, before you comment on how I'm a new account, I'd like to state it here. This is a new account, I've only before been a lurker on bitcointalk, but decided to make an account for posting today.

I'm not trolling or trying to spread FUD. I just want to know if you can answer any of this, if you can't, that's understandable. I'm sure they don't let you into their boardroom meetings or anything.

All that said, I love the panda picture, god damnit I love pandas....

Thinking to buy here but waiting for reviews off others to decide on buying from gawminers if theirs no pre order and shipping next day like antminers do then I might conciser it but until that day comes's I will never do pre orders again for buying mining hardware.