Topic: Gaza and international law!! (Read 756 times)
Another evidence of the double standards of almost all politicians after Arab and international countries, organizations and movements welcomed the issuance of two arrest warrants by the International Criminal Court against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and dismissed Defense Minister Yoav Galant on charges related to committing war crimes and crimes against humanity during the ongoing war of extermination on the Gaza Strip. While the matter witnessed a European discrepancy between commitment to the decisions of the International Court and geopolitical sensitivity, especially those that provide unconditional support to Israel. While many countries expressed their commitment to the court’s decision, some other countries expressed their rejection of the decision and their readiness to receive the accused on their lands and not to comply with the conviction decision. Some analysts said that this is a bold decision that will restore hope in the role of the International Court of Justice and provide opportunities to hold war criminals accountable, while others said that the decisions of the International Court are not neutral and are mixed with politics. It is true that the International Court of Justice is very slow in making diagnoses and issuing decisions, but it has succeeded throughout its history in directing official international condemnations against war criminals and some of them have been arrested.
I have emphasized many times that the myth of the “Promised Land” is one of the lies that was promoted to establish a state for the Jews according to the Zionist project. The Torah (according to the rabbinic interpretation) claims that God promised the Jews a land for themselves after their exodus from Egypt (those who believed in Moses), and the lie says that Palestine is this land, even though the Torah does not mention the name or location of this land. On this basis, the founders of Zionism developed multiple options for the place on which this state could potentially be established. There were several options, including Chad in Africa and other places with an ancient Jewish presence, such as the island of Djerba in Tunisia or Morocco. The choice fell on Palestine since it had left the authority of The Ottomans would enter under the British mandate, and therefore no one would object, at least in the first period of establishment. The West supported this choice to ensure the preservation of its interests in the region, especially since Britain and France were forced to grant independence to those countries, meaning that their influence there declined. The idea of establishing Israel was a new colonial plan for the entire region and not just for the land of Palestine, since Israel represents the cancer that is eating away at the body of the region, hindering the countries of the region from progressing and giving Western countries the appropriate pretext to impose hegemony of a different kind that serves their interests.
Israel could not have been established in an organized state on the political and economic levels, since the Jews were outcast almost everywhere, and therefore the safest and least expensive places had to be chosen. To clarify, the Jews actually came in the beginning and began buying lands at exorbitant prices in order to own them, claiming in the end that they were the actual owners, with the addition of the sacred character that it was land that God had promised them.
Israel could not have been established in an organized state on the political and economic levels, since the Jews were outcast almost everywhere, and therefore the safest and least expensive places had to be chosen. To clarify, the Jews actually came in the beginning and began buying lands at exorbitant prices in order to own them, claiming in the end that they were the actual owners, with the addition of the sacred character that it was land that God had promised them.
In political and ideological relations, there is a well-known saying that there are no permanent enemies and no permanent friends, but there are permanent interests. This saying is what explains the state of agreement that we currently see between Western countries and their Zionist Jewish friends. The truth is that the Zionist movement is what brings them together currently and is what guarantees the unity of their position to preserve common interests.
Some people mistakenly imagine that the hostility is between Muslims and Jews versus Christian-Jewish consensus. This is the fallacy that Huntington sought to theorize in his book “The Clash of Civilizations,” completely forgetting the emergence and development of the Zionist movement, which emerged from the cloak of religion since it arose in Christian circles to later become a global movement that included people who believed in it from different religious and cultural backgrounds, some of whom were not really religious. This movement is driven by the interests of those affiliated with it and has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Rather, they are trying to promote a religious background in an attempt to divert attention from the real causes of origin. The most important evidence that can be relied upon is the presence of Jews in both Israel and Palestine themselves who do not believe in Zionism or the Israeli state, at the same time that many non-Jews support the establishment of Israel as a state for the Jews.
I am convinced that the conflict has nothing to do with religion and that both sides of the conflict are trying to give it a religious character to win over the masses. Today, both parties support racist ideas, which cannot support a peace map solution in the region, and here we see it today clearly in Gaza, which is being emptied of its urban content to later be transformed into a new Israeli colony. Two days ago, the Israeli Parliament supported the government's decision to reject the establishment of a unilateral Palestinian state and thus continue the campaign against Gaza.
Some people mistakenly imagine that the hostility is between Muslims and Jews versus Christian-Jewish consensus. This is the fallacy that Huntington sought to theorize in his book “The Clash of Civilizations,” completely forgetting the emergence and development of the Zionist movement, which emerged from the cloak of religion since it arose in Christian circles to later become a global movement that included people who believed in it from different religious and cultural backgrounds, some of whom were not really religious. This movement is driven by the interests of those affiliated with it and has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Rather, they are trying to promote a religious background in an attempt to divert attention from the real causes of origin. The most important evidence that can be relied upon is the presence of Jews in both Israel and Palestine themselves who do not believe in Zionism or the Israeli state, at the same time that many non-Jews support the establishment of Israel as a state for the Jews.
I am convinced that the conflict has nothing to do with religion and that both sides of the conflict are trying to give it a religious character to win over the masses. Today, both parties support racist ideas, which cannot support a peace map solution in the region, and here we see it today clearly in Gaza, which is being emptied of its urban content to later be transformed into a new Israeli colony. Two days ago, the Israeli Parliament supported the government's decision to reject the establishment of a unilateral Palestinian state and thus continue the campaign against Gaza.
The biggest hoax is what we call today the Holocaust or what is known as the "Nazi Holocaust." This big lie made the Jews play the role of victims of what they considered a global conspiracy against them on the basis of their status as Jews, meaning that they were subjected to ethnic cleansing on the basis of the sect they believed in. From there, the Nazi Holocaust was linked to Semitism, and accordingly, anyone who doubted its occurrence became an anti-Semite. This is one of the most extreme ideologies ever, and one that Western propaganda helped establish and support in every possible way.
In fact, the Zionists have never stopped supporting these theories, including punishing anyone who questions their credibility. But fortunately, there are rational academics and specialists in civilization and history who refused to follow the herd philosophy and spread their ideas that undermine all these ideologies and expose their purpose. I consider every person who questions these myths to be one of the lucky ones who refuse to deceive themselves and their minds just because everyone believes them.
In this same context, it is worth noting that Western societies believe the lies of their governments and only a few elite percentages acknowledge the falsity of Jewish history as the Zionists want to promote it.
In fact, the Zionists have never stopped supporting these theories, including punishing anyone who questions their credibility. But fortunately, there are rational academics and specialists in civilization and history who refused to follow the herd philosophy and spread their ideas that undermine all these ideologies and expose their purpose. I consider every person who questions these myths to be one of the lucky ones who refuse to deceive themselves and their minds just because everyone believes them.
In this same context, it is worth noting that Western societies believe the lies of their governments and only a few elite percentages acknowledge the falsity of Jewish history as the Zionists want to promote it.
There is an important book written by a French researcher named Roger Garaudy, which is the book “The Founding Myths of the State of Israel,” in which he talks about the myth of the Promised Land and the Temple of Solomon, which is supposed to exist when we demolish Al-Aqsa Mosque, according to what the Zionists say. One of these myths that the book explained was that the so-called Jewish Holocaust did not happen in the first place and that the concentration camps for detainees included everyone. Scientists supported this idea on the basis that the idea of creating gas chambers was technically impossible to create in a record period in which thousands would die without finding mass graves where they were buried.
The West contributed to providing a conducive climate for the spread of these myths by supporting the Zionist Jews to become a political movement that later worked at length to establish a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, including also contributing to the expulsion of Britain from Palestine, so that the Israeli state could be declared a few months later.
Everyone must be aware that the war is against a global Zionist movement that includes people of different nationalities and different religious backgrounds, since I cannot blame Netanyahu alone as a Jewish Israeli, and at the same time remove the blame from Biden only because he is an American Christian, that is, not an Israeli. They are all partners in sin.
It is a crying joke that Ukraine, which complains of Russia's occupation of it, voted in favor of Israel against Palestine during the vote in the United Nations.
The West contributed to providing a conducive climate for the spread of these myths by supporting the Zionist Jews to become a political movement that later worked at length to establish a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, including also contributing to the expulsion of Britain from Palestine, so that the Israeli state could be declared a few months later.
Everyone must be aware that the war is against a global Zionist movement that includes people of different nationalities and different religious backgrounds, since I cannot blame Netanyahu alone as a Jewish Israeli, and at the same time remove the blame from Biden only because he is an American Christian, that is, not an Israeli. They are all partners in sin.
It is a crying joke that Ukraine, which complains of Russia's occupation of it, voted in favor of Israel against Palestine during the vote in the United Nations.
No reason to get completely conspiratorial on the issue of the October massacre in Israel, which started all this senseless conflict. Besides, we all knew the United States has been and will continue to be an unconditional ally for Israel, so there is no surprise when we all see the way the USA and the international community reacts to the attacks on Gaza and the convoys with help going to Gaza.
Just think about the United States and the countries under the influence of its power, if USA is unconditional expected to support Israel, then also those countries which are allies of the USA will do the same.
The Jews have no power without a force greater than themselves to support them. One of the exciting theories says that the West was complaining about the Jews with all their racism and rejected them until recently, so they agreed to give them Palestine to get rid of them and preserve their interests. Today, the West supports Israel because if the forces are equal with the Palestinians, the Israelis will go to Europe, and this is what Westerners do not want in general. This theory explains the very large support that Israel has received since the announcement of its establishment in 1948 and even before that date. History books mention that short-term displacement campaigns of European Jews occurred before the Holocaust and continued during World War II until after it and until today.
According to specialized studies in the history of Jewish groups, the Jews are Jewish religious groups from different cultures, all of whom are closed in the form of conservative religious groups. This closure prevented the Jews from practicing most of the important professions and jobs, which prompted them to turn to other activities such as lending on interest and trades specialized in precious metals, which helped them develop their wealth in a way that allowed them the ability to influence. No one wanted a religious group to have powers that could not be controlled, and therefore each country chose a reason to expel them, which increased their dispersion before waves of displacement began to take place to a specific destination, which is Palestine.
That is why I believe that the idea of establishing the State of Israel is being worked on by Western leaders more than Israel itself. Imagine that the amount of money in support of Israel in a four-month-old war from the United States alone exceeded the amount of spending on supporting Ukraine by all supporters in its war with Russia, which is nearly two years old.
There is no international law. Only laws for the safeguard of some particular countries. If you are part of that country, then you are the elite class and if you are not part of any such country, then you can be raped, killed, tortured and everyone will give you a blind eye. No one will care about you.
I watched the movie hunger games, and looking at it, i thought that we are actually living the same. For the Elite, the torture and killing of the muslims and third world countries are actually a source of joy and entertainment.
I watched the movie hunger games, and looking at it, i thought that we are actually living the same. For the Elite, the torture and killing of the muslims and third world countries are actually a source of joy and entertainment.
No reason to get completely conspiratorial on the issue of the October massacre in Israel, which started all this senseless conflict.
You mean the Hannibal Protocol where Israeli terrorists are ordered to eliminate any of their own forces that are left behind? No, that massacre did not start this conflict. It started ~75 years ago when the Zionists infested Palestine and started ethnically cleansing the locals that included Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc. 
The international community represented in the United Nations could not even protect its headquarters, which are supposed to be protected under international law, despite the fact that Israel has never hesitated to bomb UNRWA facilities or target the supply trucks arriving there. The United Nations merely expressed its dissatisfaction with what happened without exercising the measures authorized by international law.
The war on Gaza exposes the complicity of the entire international community, which helps Israel by remaining silent about its crimes. At the same time, figures appeared indicating that the latest support funding plan for Israel from the US administration amounts to $140 billion. Even the Russia-China alliance did not care much about confronting the West in this war because it benefited from it if it diverted attention from the Ukrainian war.
Israel found an opportunity in the October events to begin working on a plan that it has been seeking to implement for a long time because it has been besieging the Gaza Strip for a long time and it only needed an excuse in front of Western public opinion, which helped it appear as a victim. It seems as if it was planned a long time ago and Israel received the support of the international community before the events of October began.
The war on Gaza exposes the complicity of the entire international community, which helps Israel by remaining silent about its crimes. At the same time, figures appeared indicating that the latest support funding plan for Israel from the US administration amounts to $140 billion. Even the Russia-China alliance did not care much about confronting the West in this war because it benefited from it if it diverted attention from the Ukrainian war.
Israel found an opportunity in the October events to begin working on a plan that it has been seeking to implement for a long time because it has been besieging the Gaza Strip for a long time and it only needed an excuse in front of Western public opinion, which helped it appear as a victim. It seems as if it was planned a long time ago and Israel received the support of the international community before the events of October began.
No reason to get completely conspiratorial on the issue of the October massacre in Israel, which started all this senseless conflict. Besides, we all knew the United States has been and will continue to be an unconditional ally for Israel, so there is no surprise when we all see the way the USA and the international community reacts to the attacks on Gaza and the convoys with help going to Gaza.
Just think about the United States and the countries under the influence of its power, if USA is unconditional expected to support Israel, then also those countries which are allies of the USA will do the same.
There have been very few countries, one of them being South Africa, which have denounced the alledged genocide taking place in Gaza, and the left media in the West also talking about it. Though, to me the silence of Russia and China are indeed strange, I would have expected them to be more explicit on this matter
The international community represented in the United Nations could not even protect its headquarters, which are supposed to be protected under international law, despite the fact that Israel has never hesitated to bomb UNRWA facilities or target the supply trucks arriving there. The United Nations merely expressed its dissatisfaction with what happened without exercising the measures authorized by international law.
The war on Gaza exposes the complicity of the entire international community, which helps Israel by remaining silent about its crimes. At the same time, figures appeared indicating that the latest support funding plan for Israel from the US administration amounts to $140 billion. Even the Russia-China alliance did not care much about confronting the West in this war because it benefited from it if it diverted attention from the Ukrainian war.
Israel found an opportunity in the October events to begin working on a plan that it has been seeking to implement for a long time because it has been besieging the Gaza Strip for a long time and it only needed an excuse in front of Western public opinion, which helped it appear as a victim. It seems as if it was planned a long time ago and Israel received the support of the international community before the events of October began.
The war on Gaza exposes the complicity of the entire international community, which helps Israel by remaining silent about its crimes. At the same time, figures appeared indicating that the latest support funding plan for Israel from the US administration amounts to $140 billion. Even the Russia-China alliance did not care much about confronting the West in this war because it benefited from it if it diverted attention from the Ukrainian war.
Israel found an opportunity in the October events to begin working on a plan that it has been seeking to implement for a long time because it has been besieging the Gaza Strip for a long time and it only needed an excuse in front of Western public opinion, which helped it appear as a victim. It seems as if it was planned a long time ago and Israel received the support of the international community before the events of October began.
During a visit he made last Thursday to Lebanon, British Prime Minister David Cameron announced that his country is studying the possibility of recognizing a Palestinian state before the end of negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians regarding the two-state solution, warning at the same time that this will not happen as long as the Hamas movement is still in Gaza. . In the same context, he made it clear that recognition of the Palestinian state cannot take place at the beginning of the negotiation process, but he will not wait for its end, which may take years to come. Cameron said that the first step must be a "cessation of fighting" in Gaza, which will eventually turn into a "permanent and sustainable ceasefire."
Although the negotiation process between the two parties has stopped since 2009, and despite the declared rejection by the Israeli side of the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, if this initiative succeeds, it may isolate Israel internationally and force it to sit at the negotiating table.
To clarify, this is not a new proposal because other Western countries, in addition to the United States, support the idea of an independent Palestine living alongside Israel as a solution to the most difficult conflict in the region. But the main obstacle to this option is Israel itself, which uses false excuses every time.
This initiative comes after statements by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the far-right ministers in his government about rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state, announcing an increase in the pace of settlement in the West Bank, and showing intentions to return settlement outposts to the Gaza Strip after the displacement of its population.
Although the negotiation process between the two parties has stopped since 2009, and despite the declared rejection by the Israeli side of the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, if this initiative succeeds, it may isolate Israel internationally and force it to sit at the negotiating table.
To clarify, this is not a new proposal because other Western countries, in addition to the United States, support the idea of an independent Palestine living alongside Israel as a solution to the most difficult conflict in the region. But the main obstacle to this option is Israel itself, which uses false excuses every time.
This initiative comes after statements by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the far-right ministers in his government about rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state, announcing an increase in the pace of settlement in the West Bank, and showing intentions to return settlement outposts to the Gaza Strip after the displacement of its population.
In an unprecedented step, the Republic of South Africa had recently filed a lawsuit in the International Court (the judicial body affiliated with the United Nations) against Israel on charges of genocide against civilians in the Gaza Strip. South Africa had prepared a report of thousands of pages and defended its position before the judges of the court, who did not hesitate to issue a decision forcing Israel to take measures to avoid genocide and to submit a report on its military operations in the Strip within a month. Of course, the court did not dare to request a ceasefire or to condemn specific parties.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
Alledgely the support was withdrawn for the UNRWA by those countries because it was discovered there were members who were part of HAMAS and we're informed about the attack against Israel back in October 7th. Still, I am not sure whether that is a valid reason to withdraw help to Palestinian civilians who had nothing to do with that alledged infiltration of Hamas.
The attacks may seem brutal but it would save more lives in the future as Israeli and Palestinian would live in peacefully under the leadership of Israel.
There was a time for 2 state solution but the motive of 2nd state was to kill Israeli citizen as many as possible. So that is not the option on the table for now.
I am afraid that your assessment is slightly wrong, my friend, because it is Israel that did not support the two-state solution, as was agreed upon between Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat, Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization, in Oslo 1993, which ended with Rabin’s assassination, thus aborting the last attempt to stabilize peace in the region. There was a time for 2 state solution but the motive of 2nd state was to kill Israeli citizen as many as possible. So that is not the option on the table for now.
In an unprecedented step, the Republic of South Africa had recently filed a lawsuit in the International Court (the judicial body affiliated with the United Nations) against Israel on charges of genocide against civilians in the Gaza Strip. South Africa had prepared a report of thousands of pages and defended its position before the judges of the court, who did not hesitate to issue a decision forcing Israel to take measures to avoid genocide and to submit a report on its military operations in the Strip within a month. Of course, the court did not dare to request a ceasefire or to condemn specific parties.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
Alledgely the support was withdrawn for the UNRWA by those countries because it was discovered there were members who were part of HAMAS and we're informed about the attack against Israel back in October 7th. Still, I am not sure whether that is a valid reason to withdraw help to Palestinian civilians who had nothing to do with that alledged infiltration of Hamas.
To me, it is very unlikely the accusations of Genocide in the international scenario will do something to stop the aggressions, Israel had already made its position very clear about the existence of a Palestinian state in the middle east. There have even been politicsl clashes and disagreements between the government of Israel and the government of the United States concerning the two states solution, it would seem that Netanyahu does not want to give the Gaza strip back to the people of Palestine once he had managed to completely take over it and expel Hamas out of it.
I am going s step ahead, and predicting Israel will say they won't give Gaza back to the Palestine administration because that would incite and help for Hamas to go back and reestablish their operations in the strip, people will disagree, but Israel will get away with it because the impunity they seem to have in this matter.
The attacks may seem brutal but it would save more lives in the future as Israeli and Palestinian would live in peacefully under the leadership of Israel.
There was a time for 2 state solution but the motive of 2nd state was to kill Israeli citizen as many as possible. So that is not the option on the table for now.
When the gaza comes under IDF like the west bank, the violence on the region would drastically reduce. All of turkey, Saudi, Jordan and Egypt have a relatively stabler law and order and any issue from pockets of Lebanon and Syria could be easily fixed by bombing them. Assad already has a deal with Israel and if Lebanon can't control Hezbolla, they'll be next controlled by Israel.
I don't think so. Violence in the region won't cease because those zones are under the control of the Israel goverment. If you have been paying attention to the tactics used by them, you should have realized violence is not something they want to avoid, is a tool used to reach their objectives. There is a reason the government of Israel gives weapons to settlers of the west bank, to commit violence against those go live there and dare to question the settlements.
Even if Gaza and the west bank ended up under the control of the Israel, it would be foolish to assume Israel would immediately grant citizenship to Palestinians, they would be displaced and would likely lose their homes and properties.
People in Palestine would feel so helpless and angry some of them would see no problem in joining terrorist organizations like Hamas, which is being funded from abroad.
A two states solution is still doable, but it requires to defund and destroy those terror groups which are nor willing to accept such path, and endangering civilians in s very reckless and selfish way. While civilians get in the front line (because the frontline is by their homes and businesses) the leaders of Hamas drink fine Wine and eat caviar in Qatar.
The power people are the ones that controls the world, even the international court would have nothing to do or any laws to punish countries that failed to stick to the law keep the peace of the world. Meybe you have forgotten when the United States kill the Iran top most general in the region. Many countries condemned the act but nothing happens so far since it's the world powerful country that committed the act. Just imagine that the act was committed by a less powerful country, the whole world might have turned against the country in particular.
In an unprecedented step, the Republic of South Africa had recently filed a lawsuit in the International Court (the judicial body affiliated with the United Nations) against Israel on charges of genocide against civilians in the Gaza Strip. South Africa had prepared a report of thousands of pages and defended its position before the judges of the court, who did not hesitate to issue a decision forcing Israel to take measures to avoid genocide and to submit a report on its military operations in the Strip within a month. Of course, the court did not dare to request a ceasefire or to condemn specific parties.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
Alledgely the support was withdrawn for the UNRWA by those countries because it was discovered there were members who were part of HAMAS and we're informed about the attack against Israel back in October 7th. Still, I am not sure whether that is a valid reason to withdraw help to Palestinian civilians who had nothing to do with that alledged infiltration of Hamas.
To me, it is very unlikely the accusations of Genocide in the international scenario will do something to stop the aggressions, Israel had already made its position very clear about the existence of a Palestinian state in the middle east. There have even been politicsl clashes and disagreements between the government of Israel and the government of the United States concerning the two states solution, it would seem that Netanyahu does not want to give the Gaza strip back to the people of Palestine once he had managed to completely take over it and expel Hamas out of it.
I am going s step ahead, and predicting Israel will say they won't give Gaza back to the Palestine administration because that would incite and help for Hamas to go back and reestablish their operations in the strip, people will disagree, but Israel will get away with it because the impunity they seem to have in this matter.
The attacks may seem brutal but it would save more lives in the future as Israeli and Palestinian would live in peacefully under the leadership of Israel.
There was a time for 2 state solution but the motive of 2nd state was to kill Israeli citizen as many as possible. So that is not the option on the table for now.
When the gaza comes under IDF like the west bank, the violence on the region would drastically reduce. All of turkey, Saudi, Jordan and Egypt have a relatively stabler law and order and any issue from pockets of Lebanon and Syria could be easily fixed by bombing them. Assad already has a deal with Israel and if Lebanon can't control Hezbolla, they'll be next controlled by Israel.
In an unprecedented step, the Republic of South Africa had recently filed a lawsuit in the International Court (the judicial body affiliated with the United Nations) against Israel on charges of genocide against civilians in the Gaza Strip. South Africa had prepared a report of thousands of pages and defended its position before the judges of the court, who did not hesitate to issue a decision forcing Israel to take measures to avoid genocide and to submit a report on its military operations in the Strip within a month. Of course, the court did not dare to request a ceasefire or to condemn specific parties.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
Alledgely the support was withdrawn for the UNRWA by those countries because it was discovered there were members who were part of HAMAS and we're informed about the attack against Israel back in October 7th. Still, I am not sure whether that is a valid reason to withdraw help to Palestinian civilians who had nothing to do with that alledged infiltration of Hamas.
To me, it is very unlikely the accusations of Genocide in the international scenario will do something to stop the aggressions, Israel had already made its position very clear about the existence of a Palestinian state in the middle east. There have even been politicsl clashes and disagreements between the government of Israel and the government of the United States concerning the two states solution, it would seem that Netanyahu does not want to give the Gaza strip back to the people of Palestine once he had managed to completely take over it and expel Hamas out of it.
I am going s step ahead, and predicting Israel will say they won't give Gaza back to the Palestine administration because that would incite and help for Hamas to go back and reestablish their operations in the strip, people will disagree, but Israel will get away with it because the impunity they seem to have in this matter.
In an unprecedented step, the Republic of South Africa had recently filed a lawsuit in the International Court (the judicial body affiliated with the United Nations) against Israel on charges of genocide against civilians in the Gaza Strip. South Africa had prepared a report of thousands of pages and defended its position before the judges of the court, who did not hesitate to issue a decision forcing Israel to take measures to avoid genocide and to submit a report on its military operations in the Strip within a month. Of course, the court did not dare to request a ceasefire or to condemn specific parties.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
In the first repercussions of this decision, the United States, Canada, Italy, and Australia announced the cessation of their financial support to UNRWA (the Palestinian refugee relief and works organization).
I think that there is no longer any doubt about the crimes committed by Israel, which could amount to war crimes. The court's recent decision, although it was long overdue and although it may not have beneficial results at all levels, nevertheless settled the debate about taking the appropriate position on what is happening.
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If Israeli officials are ever brought to ICC on war crime charges, prosecution will have a hard time proving the intent.
Israel warns civilians daily to move to the southern part of Gaza. The civilian casulties are unintentional, IMHO.
They clearly stated their intent: eradication of Hamas. Not eradication of Palestinians.
This is the worst argument that can be relied upon to justify what is happening. I will answer you on the three points you mentioned:
- The international community does not intend to hold the Israeli army accountable for what it is doing, and therefore the army does not fear anything, even if its responsibility for the massacres is proven with material evidence. Israel knows this, so it does not give any value to international standards.
- The bombing is carried out on all areas of the Gaza Strip, whose area does not exceed 42 square kilometers. Bombing of schools and hospitals, and yesterday they bombed a convoy of ambulances heading towards the Rafah crossing in the south. Israel gives citizens minutes before carrying out bombing operations. Can you explain to me how a hospital or school crowded with civilians can be evacuated within a few hours? This is nonsense.
- According to the latest statistics, more than 10,000 people were killed in Gaza. Among them are more than 3,000 children and countless women and elderly people. Do you find it logical to exterminate all this number under the pretext of eliminating a few hundred who are already hiding underground?
If Hamas uses civilians as human shields and public humanitarian facilities as hideouts, does this justify the annihilation of those shields and the bombing of those facilities? You justify horrific massacres with this logic.
The Palestinian people are not Hamas, and Hamas does not exist in the West Bank. Can you explain to me why 100 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank even though there were no Hamas fighters there?
Please stop justifying violence. This took away part of your humanity.
Sometimes law and ethics/morals don't overlap.
I was refering to the potential legal ramifications for the leaders of the Israeli government.
As for how they chose to fight the terrorists, well, I am not them so I don't know what they are thinking.
One thing I will say, I would not want to be in their position.
How do you eradicate these terrorists who are hidding among 50% of residents of Gaza who do not support Hamas?
How can you tell who is the terrorist and who is not? Impossible task to do, IMHO.
Ask yourself this question: how long would it take you to walk 20km to the southern part of Gaza? 5 hours?
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If Israeli officials are ever brought to ICC on war crime charges, prosecution will have a hard time proving the intent.
Israel warns civilians daily to move to the southern part of Gaza. The civilian casulties are unintentional, IMHO.
They clearly stated their intent: eradication of Hamas. Not eradication of Palestinians.
This is the worst argument that can be relied upon to justify what is happening. I will answer you on the three points you mentioned:
- The international community does not intend to hold the Israeli army accountable for what it is doing, and therefore the army does not fear anything, even if its responsibility for the massacres is proven with material evidence. Israel knows this, so it does not give any value to international standards.
- The bombing is carried out on all areas of the Gaza Strip, whose area does not exceed 42 square kilometers. Bombing of schools and hospitals, and yesterday they bombed a convoy of ambulances heading towards the Rafah crossing in the south. Israel gives citizens minutes before carrying out bombing operations. Can you explain to me how a hospital or school crowded with civilians can be evacuated within a few hours? This is nonsense.
- According to the latest statistics, more than 10,000 people were killed in Gaza. Among them are more than 3,000 children and countless women and elderly people. Do you find it logical to exterminate all this number under the pretext of eliminating a few hundred who are already hiding underground?
If Hamas uses civilians as human shields and public humanitarian facilities as hideouts, does this justify the annihilation of those shields and the bombing of those facilities? You justify horrific massacres with this logic.
The Palestinian people are not Hamas, and Hamas does not exist in the West Bank. Can you explain to me why 100 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank even though there were no Hamas fighters there?
Please stop justifying violence. This took away part of your humanity.
A few hours ago, the Israeli Defense Forces committed a new massacre in the Gaza Strip that exceeded all expectations. The forces bombed a hospital housing civilians fleeing the bombing, in addition to those injured as a result of the bombings. The targeting of the hospital left more than 600 dead, and the hospital administration confirmed that all of them were civilians.
According to the latest statistics, the death toll as a result of the continuous bombing for 12 days exceeded 3,000, in addition to an unspecified number of wounded and the complete destruction of the infrastructure of the entire northern Gaza Strip, which is already besieged, while preventing the entry of food and medical aid through all crossings leading to the Gaza Strip.
Regardless of whether you support the Palestinian right or support Israel, I cannot imagine a rational person who would question the horror of what is happening to more than two million citizens in front of the eyes of the world. You may have been affected by the death of 200 Israelis after the Hamas attack last October 7, but in your opinion, is it permissible to react in this barbaric way? Hamas did not kill children or attack hospitals, and no matter how strong it is, it cannot reach the size of the military might of a force like Israel, which is supported by the most powerful armies in the world. Who benefits from killing more than a thousand children and destroying hospitals and shelters?
Believe me, I am unable to even formulate the appropriate expressions to describe what I feel. I am no longer as surprised by what Israel does as I am by the position of countries, entities, and even companies.
Can someone explain to me what is the benefit of international law that imposes certain conditions, even in cases of war, that hospitals and shelter centers should not be targeted and the way for humanitarian crossings should be opened? Why does everyone view the American veto as a normal step, while the Security Council and the entire United Nations agree to condemn what is happening? Can a rational person explain to me what is the benefit of establishing international law in light of the existence of what is called the right of veto? Then why do those with the veto insist on remaining within the United Nations and international legitimacy if they constantly overturn its decisions that agree with them? How can laws be effectively activated under the veto?
According to the latest statistics, the death toll as a result of the continuous bombing for 12 days exceeded 3,000, in addition to an unspecified number of wounded and the complete destruction of the infrastructure of the entire northern Gaza Strip, which is already besieged, while preventing the entry of food and medical aid through all crossings leading to the Gaza Strip.
Regardless of whether you support the Palestinian right or support Israel, I cannot imagine a rational person who would question the horror of what is happening to more than two million citizens in front of the eyes of the world. You may have been affected by the death of 200 Israelis after the Hamas attack last October 7, but in your opinion, is it permissible to react in this barbaric way? Hamas did not kill children or attack hospitals, and no matter how strong it is, it cannot reach the size of the military might of a force like Israel, which is supported by the most powerful armies in the world. Who benefits from killing more than a thousand children and destroying hospitals and shelters?
Believe me, I am unable to even formulate the appropriate expressions to describe what I feel. I am no longer as surprised by what Israel does as I am by the position of countries, entities, and even companies.
Can someone explain to me what is the benefit of international law that imposes certain conditions, even in cases of war, that hospitals and shelter centers should not be targeted and the way for humanitarian crossings should be opened? Why does everyone view the American veto as a normal step, while the Security Council and the entire United Nations agree to condemn what is happening? Can a rational person explain to me what is the benefit of establishing international law in light of the existence of what is called the right of veto? Then why do those with the veto insist on remaining within the United Nations and international legitimacy if they constantly overturn its decisions that agree with them? How can laws be effectively activated under the veto?
If Israeli officials are ever brought to ICC on war crime charges, prosecution will have a hard time proving the intent.
Israel warns civilians daily to move to the southern part of Gaza. The civilian casulties are unintentional, IMHO.
They clearly stated their intent: eradication of Hamas. Not eradication of Palestinians.
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