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July 21, 2014, 02:12:12 AM
#23

It is literally 10's of rockets a day... so hundreds of times a week Israelies hear the siren and have to go in their bomb shelters.. no one thinks of that..


I like how you just lied out of both sides of your mouth. Hundreds of times a week Israelis have to evacuate? That is more than one evacuation per hour. You have no idea what you are talking about at all.

1. Iron Dome can stop more than 99.7% of any kind of ballistic rocket, and a higher percentage if it is a slow homemade Palestinian rocket.

2. Palestinian rockets have no explosives on them at all. They lack even the most basic technology that would make a small homemade warhead explode on impact. Just let that sink in for a bit. How long have there been missiles that explode on impact? Maybe close to 100 years? Palestine doesn't even have one.

3. Keeping in mind #2, the damage done by any Palestinian rocket is limited entirely to the size of the rocket and how many times in bounces along the ground, because it has no blast radius at all since there is no warhead. The rockets are 6x1 feet on average. That means their normal area of impact is six square feet. Sometimes they may skid for a few more feet, but only if they hit flat concrete and nothing else. How big is the crater left by laser-guided IDF missiles?

4. The city of Jerusalem is about 64,000,000 square feet in size.

5. Palestinian rockets have absolutely zero guidance systems. They just randomly go in a general direction fired with a huge margin of error.


My bet is that nobody would get hit even without the Iron Dome. Since there has not been a single injury due to these rockets with the Dome, and Palestine has exactly zero defense against an attack of any kind, I really don't see how this is a fair fight by any stretch of the imagination. Considering Israel got all their weapons for free with my tax dollars, they are really going to start having fun once we can't print enough money to fund them anymore. Hopefully they can make a few friends in the area before then, but they might find that a little difficult, now.
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July 21, 2014, 01:30:29 AM
#22


Bitcoins are not really useful there [Gaza] and any donation will just end up being converted to dollars and given to a UN humanitarian aid corporation. which is already well funded. thus wasted on their funding campaign advertising and corporate office wages.


Please tell us how a functioning bitcoin exchange would ever give all of the dollars from BTC conversions to UN organizations. What kind of an exchange is that? Look, the whole idea is for people from all over the world to be able to give donations and perform commercial activity in BTC with Palestinians, or any impoverished people, directly without any charity or middleman taking huge cuts for corporate profit. You don't seem to understand that concept, so please stay out of the conversation if that is the case.



To everybody else, yes this is a far-fetched idea, but the very concept of a currency backed by nothing but the computing power of the internet is still complete science-fiction for all but the ten million bitcoiners out there, who make up less than 0.2% of the world's population. In the not-so-distant future, when a guided missile with a warhead turns a poor civilian's home into dust, you will be able to send them money to help rebuild instantly and freely, if you so choose. You can propose solutions or challenges for the concept, but don't, even for a second, suggest that it might be impossible. We can finally do this now that we have bitcoin, and the only real question left is who will do it first and reap the potentially huge financial and moral rewards. I was asking about feasibility, because the possibility of this idea is a definite yes with no exceptions. Gaza gets 8 hours of electricity a day, and they do have a few computers and radio transmitters in the strip.

Thanks for the input so far. Hopefully somebody more financially savvy than myself will see this and run with it.
NRF
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July 20, 2014, 06:39:39 PM
#21
Have you thought about it from the Palestinian point of view?

Approximately 65 years ago they were invaded by people from all over the world, they came and just set up camp and declared themselves a country!

Well if you look at the actual history, there wasn't much there when Israel settled it.

Most of the Palestinians are recent.

pfft...  There was an entire country there along with a few very large cities.. Jerusalem for example.

Millions of people lived there.
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July 20, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
#20
Have you thought about it from the Palestinian point of view?

Approximately 65 years ago they were invaded by people from all over the world, they came and just set up camp and declared themselves a country!

Well if you look at the actual history, there wasn't much there when Israel settled it.

Most of the Palestinians are recent.
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July 20, 2014, 06:31:54 PM
#19
Im definitely going to donate to Gaza bloody israel scums ruined a perfect place called Palestine and took over as a pirate takes over ships.
NRF
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July 20, 2014, 06:19:06 PM
#18
Agree with last 2 posts.
Everyone just blames Israel..

Imagine if you live in a town on the border and you constantly get shot at with rocks.. every day 10's of rockets... every day you have to evacuate..
No one  thinks about this because Israel shoots down a lot of rockets, but if they did not their would be a huge death toll in Israel.

If they left Israel alone, Israel would not need to bomb the crap out of them.
It is litterally 10's of rockets a day... so hundreds of times a week Israelies hear the siren and have to go in their bomb shelters.. no one thinks of that..
If people just think Israel is attacking these poor Palestinians for nothing, you are delusional.

Its the same every week. Why do you think these attacks happen every few months. The rocks stop being fired into Israel.. then start back up and after a few weeks of heavy bombing INTO Israel, they finally fight back.

If only it was that simple.

Have you thought about it from the Palestinian point of view?

Approximately 65 years ago they were invaded by people from all over the world, they came and just set up camp and declared themselves a country!

The invaders then systematically pushed into their country (Palestine), splitting it into small bit's of the most un-productive land.  Wost of all, when the Palestinians went to the world in large most countries backed the invaders!

Of coarse it is not as simple as that, but there are always two sides to a story.
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July 20, 2014, 05:30:14 PM
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July 20, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
#16
Agree with last 2 posts.
Everyone just blames Israel..

Imagine if you live in a town on the border and you constantly get shot at with rocks.. every day 10's of rockets... every day you have to evacuate..
No one  thinks about this because Israel shoots down a lot of rockets, but if they did not their would be a huge death toll in Israel.

If they left Israel alone, Israel would not need to bomb the crap out of them.
It is litterally 10's of rockets a day... so hundreds of times a week Israelies hear the siren and have to go in their bomb shelters.. no one thinks of that..
If people just think Israel is attacking these poor Palestinians for nothing, you are delusional.

Its the same every week. Why do you think these attacks happen every few months. The rocks stop being fired into Israel.. then start back up and after a few weeks of heavy bombing INTO Israel, they finally fight back.
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July 20, 2014, 04:59:54 PM
#15
Stop blowing up buses filled with ordinary people and stop launching explosive rockets into population centers and things might get better. Oh and stop electing committed jihadists to political leadership positions. 
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July 20, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
#14
I don't think money is the solution to the situation in Gaza, but rather for Hammas to bring piece to the region by letting Israel live in peace.
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July 20, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
#13
I has see that many more want open the charity for gaza but seems has banned and delete by mod ....
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July 20, 2014, 10:04:28 AM
#12
Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to that part of the world is an earthquake that dropped the entire region into the Mediterranean Sea.

We've seen nearly a century of conflict between equally-guilty sides, supplied and funded by a bunch of governments around the world at the expense of their own populations because it's a good way to make some extra money for the arms exporters and I'm tired of hearing about it.

If war is the health of the state, that part of the world must be its spa.
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July 20, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
#11
Gaza oh gaza ..... we a pray for you .....
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July 20, 2014, 08:44:33 AM
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July 20, 2014, 04:36:22 AM
#9
Sadly this is likely not going to be the answer, nice idea though  Smiley
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July 20, 2014, 04:19:17 AM
#8
I don't think israhell government (zionis) will accept this
they will do everything to shutdown every money transfer to Palestine
did you remember flotilla case? some ships bring some humanitarian aid to Gaza raided by israhell military

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla
as for boycotting.. also boycott fox news. watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2FSMvrlUlY

then ask, who really sounds like a terrorist.. my vote is American media are more terrorizing
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american media owned by zionis, and they are real terrorist Grin
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July 20, 2014, 04:10:35 AM
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as for boycotting.. also boycott fox news. watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2FSMvrlUlY

then ask, who really sounds like a terrorist.. my vote is American media are more terrorizing
legendary
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July 20, 2014, 04:06:13 AM
#6
If there is one place in the world that doesn't have money and can't get access to the world through banking oppression, it is the Gaza strip. Would it be feasible to set up a bitcoin exchange in Gaza to help them rebuild after the USA-funded, err, I mean, Israeli attack? This is just so sickening I feel we must do something, and the entire world  has just now flipped their opinion. Protests in many major cities support Gaza. Celebrities are joining the cause for peace by the dozen, and the hashtag #GazaUnderAttack is trending a lot with 20k tweets per hour.

Can we set up a center there to help fund a humanitarian rebuilding effort? If you keep the people desperate and helpless, this "war" could go on forever.

short summary:
i think the OP has no clue about life in gaza or he would not be asking for a money grab under the pretense that gaza has no support system

detailed waffle:
if you live in Gaza strip.. you would know that they do have money, people have jobs and yes even while news media is showing recordings of a few bombed buildings, people are still going to work.

when governments battle each other its best to use government funds to fix the problem after all bitcoins are not really useful there and any donation will just end up being converted to dollars and given to a UN humanitarian aid corporation. which is already well funded. thus wasted on their funding campaign advertising and corporate office wages.

i do love watching these media stories that like to show lots of tanks but then when you look closely, you see average joe resident smoking a cigarette doing their every day lives, or kids with their smart phones recording the tanks.

media make it sound like a whole country is being bombed and asked to evacuate when infact its only a few buildings. most of which, if known to be general residential buildings that just happen to have some strategic importance, the opposite side "roof knocks" with light yield artillery as a warning shot many minutes before actually using the heavy building busting artillery.

of course there are still casualties but it is not like the whole country is in an apocalypse zone of death. media shout that is a "massive" or "huge" loss of life, im sorry but the death toll OF A WHOLE COUNTRY is similar to the MH17 plan crash in the ukraine.

should planes be told not to fly if 300 people out of millions is "huge". i know wars and death are no laughing matter, but if people were to take away the propaganda of exaggeration and actually analyze the facts that do leak through, you too will see that people still go to work, drive their cars, go shopping. its not a world war... although America want you to believe it is.

it is not a desert country with no support system either.

watch this for instance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tdwbl1Yj1c
at the start, people driving their cars, office workers having a smoke break, yes there's a missile hitting a building. but people are not running for cover afraid of their lives. instead they run towards it. then you see that the country has an emergency team.

i wish people would stop thinking that foreign countries are like native indians. or that wars affect EVERYONE, this is not a genocide event, life still happens and people are not running around for their lives.

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July 20, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
#5
I'm also becoming more sickened by the day with this, if there were a charity that accepted BTC then why not, but so few are allowed into Gaza. The Red Cross are allowed to check on Palestinian prisoners, but theyre not even allowed to report on their condition or they won't be allowed back in.

Anyway, one way to do it is to boycott Israeli products, which is working very well:
http://www.worldbulletin.net/middle-east/129176/israeli-finance-minister-expresses-boycott-fears

Interesting to see Duetche Bank boycotting an Israeli bank; really brave - especially for a German bank! (I have a few German friends who say it's very hard for them to talk about Israeli crimes because, well, 'they' were doing something similar to Jews not so long ago... but I digress).

Also, a very easy and quick way to boycott Israeli products is to check the barcode of anything you buy, if it's got 729 as the first 3 digits it's from Israel. If they don't get $ from exported goods, they can't buy weapons from the US and they can't give the Palestinians cancer (among other things they give them):
http://www.imemc.org/article/68526


https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10361444_10152617860680452_5283960521815388247_n.jpg

The scariest thing is the way the media treat this stuff. I mean it's almost impossible to side with Israel if you know more than 10% about what is happening or any historical context about this (assuming youre not brainwashed ofc), yet all we hear is that Israel has the right to do this and that - no mention of equal rights for the ones being bombed, no? Makes me wonder about all the conspiracy nuts and their theories...
Ugh, I'm really tired of humans. Every few years a genocide, aparthied or whatever. To the moon please.


EDIT: why not set up something to promote the boycott or give to the boycott organisations?
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July 20, 2014, 02:08:07 AM
#4
Bitcoin isn't worth having a center in Gaza in this point in time.
Similar to what the user above me said, it's just simply not the answer.
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