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Hey shasan, thank you for this reminder

However, if you look carefully, I stated that I'll escrow first transactions for free, not just the first transaction

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on December 29, 2022, 08:26:39 AM

I will escrow first transactions for free.

Therefore I think I'll wait to do a few more escrow transactions prior applying a fee. For now, my service is still free. Don't worry, once I'll decide to apply a fee, I will certainly let you know, for updating your topic as well

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on December 29, 2022, 08:26:39 AM

I will escrow first transactions for free.

You have already provided your first escrow service which is mentioned by yahoo62278 on March 14, 2023, 10:26:14 AM. Congratulations on providing the first escrow service. So, based on the OP I think you will add an escrow fee. Would you like to add your escrow fees or you will still provide more escrow free of cost?

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Acted as escrow for a charity auction in my behalf. Handled everything as a professional, would recommend him for future escrow work if users needed 1. I left this feedback on Gazeta's profile after he helped with this CHARITY AUCTION on my behalf.

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If you need escrow service please follow the steps from "How to proceed:" section of OP. Thank you.

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i need Escrow service.

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NewsletterBitcoin, also known as the GazetaBitcoin, is a user who is dealing with fraudulent transactions and very few trade history.

As you can well see in his feedbacks, he only dealt so far with 2 people regarding bitmain coupons more than 2 years ago. Since than, there is no feedback or trade history of this user.

Paid jobs as translations don't count forward the hard work and determination to become an escrow.

In the not so much dramatic as it seems, when he may or may not lose the funds due to his intellect of being a baboon, most probably he will not have any other money to cover for your loses except his signature campaign earnings.

Being an escrow is a risky job and requires not only people who can write good articles, but also require people who have built their trust over years with significant trades, not just some coupons.

Just because some users from the same inner circle, or "gang" as they call themselves trust him, you should not!

Avoid dealing with him at any costs in the quality of him being an escrow!

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Nice to see your announcement thread for providing escrow service. I have seen before few hours and I have added you a few moments ago about your service on my Few Trusted Escrow Providers lists.

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on January 08, 2023, 04:31:38 AM

Bump!

Bump already completed, you may edit it to reserve a post where you can update anything eg: changelog.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

...* Always use messages signed with your address and ask the same from the parties of the deals. Make sure the parts are aware that only such signed messages are meaningful. Impersonation is a big risk in your business. ...

Newbie question: What kind of messages does this refer to exactly, do you mean messages and PMs on this forum? If so, sign how, is there a SMF or forum specific mechanism for that, and how do I prove my public key, if it's going to be safer than my forum login?

Sorry for my ignorance

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 25, 2023, 10:34:29 AM

I've said it, but it seems that you've ignored the most important part. Bitcoin allows signing a message. ...

I haven't knowingly ignored anything, relax

Thanks for the link to "Stake your Bitcoin address here", as long as every new message includes the signature of the previous message, user Tomatocage has created something really useful IMHO.

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Quote from: npuath on January 25, 2023, 10:16:41 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

...* Always use messages signed with your address and ask the same from the parties of the deals. Make sure the parts are aware that only such signed messages are meaningful. Impersonation is a big risk in your business. ...

Newbie question: What kind of messages does this refer to exactly, do you mean messages and PMs on this forum? If so, sign how, is there a SMF or forum specific mechanism for that, and how do I prove my public key, if it's going to be safer than my forum login?

Sorry for my ignorance

I've said it, but it seems that you've ignored the most important part. Bitcoin allows signing a message. If you own a bitcoin wallet you can sign a message with one of the addresses of that wallet (actually, better said, with the private key of such an address).
So best is that all parts of the deal have bitcoin addresses staked (you'll need to learn to sign a message, you'll need to also take a look onto this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.new#new ) and sign their deal related messages from those addresses (maybe also stating "current" date/time).

So no, it's not a SMF mechanism, it's a Bitcoin mechanism we also use for proving ownership of bitcointalk accounts in case of troubles (this topic can be informative too: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5436734)

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

...* Always use messages signed with your address and ask the same from the parties of the deals. Make sure the parts are aware that only such signed messages are meaningful. Impersonation is a big risk in your business. ...

Newbie question: What kind of messages does this refer to exactly, do you mean messages and PMs on this forum? If so, sign how, is there a SMF or forum specific mechanism for that, and how do I prove my public key, if it's going to be safer than my forum login?

Sorry for my ignorance

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Quote from: CashApp247 on January 19, 2023, 04:10:59 PM

Need Escrow Service

Please let me know more of what you exactly need:

- what kind of escrow do you need - BTC / altcoins / physical goods / digital goods?
- when do you need this service?
- which is the other party? I would need also the confirmation of the users you will be dealing with.

Feel free (both of you) to PM me or reply here to this post.

Thank you.

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Quote from: 1miau on January 08, 2023, 12:42:21 PM

Great to see your Escrow service and I would definitely consider you service in case I need an Escrow.
So far, you have been a very reliable member of Bitcointalk and shown you contribution to our community frequently.

Thank you for the kind words, 1miau!

Quote from: 1miau on January 08, 2023, 12:42:21 PM

Probably I'll need to change around 120$ of USDT into BTC or ETH (not sure yet) and if that deal would be eligible for your Escrow, I would be happy to get it done.
If so, I would reply here in early February again.

I would gladly help you.

Quote from: 1miau on January 08, 2023, 12:42:21 PM

I don't want to use a centralized exchange as I would like to support Bitcointalk deals. Wink

That's a great decision, my friend! I am also avoiding CEXs; I never used any; never will. They are the evil implanted in Bitcoin's soul...

Quote from: 1miau on January 08, 2023, 12:42:21 PM

I've never offered an Escrow, so I don't know how time-consuming it'll be but it doesn't seem to be an easy job, some might want to scam you or their trading partner, so adding a fee would be justified as a compensation for your service.
Most Escrows charge some basis fees: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897 / https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/few-trusted-escrow-providers-5047302

I know those topics, but thank you for pointing them to me. I also posted inside each of them, asking OP to add me to their escrow list but topic authors are rarely online so it'll take a while until they'll update their threads for including me too (that is, if they consider doing it anyway). And yes, I know that most escrows ask for fees but I said that, being only at beginning, to not ask any few for first few deals. I will do it later, if everything works smooth and people will be pleased by my service.

Quote from: 1miau on January 08, 2023, 12:42:21 PM

Best wishes for your service!

Thanks again

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

Just now a campaign manager has opened a topic saying that he got hacked and lost 5000$.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

Are the money stolen by the manager or from the manager, it doesn't even matter.

I was not aware of that... I think I just found the thread, if this is the one you mean together with this one. It's very sad to see such things happening, yet this is the (normal?) outcome for not taking all necessary measures... After all, if you don't look at left and right when you cross the street, at any moment a car may crash on you...

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

I am sure that Gazeta can do much better (i.e. not getting even close to having funds stolen/lost). And if he has technical doubts, he is not afraid to ask.

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement, NeuroticFish!

Quote from: LoyceV on October 29, 2021, 09:12:33 AM

I'd say: "Rule One: Never change the deal." applies (quote taken from The Transporter movie). If anything changes, a good default would be to delay the release of escrowed funds quite a bit.

That's also a very good idea, which I just added to OP (and I also added it as rule 1!) and "paid" you 1 merit for it

It may worth 50.000$ or 10.000 merits some day

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 09, 2023, 01:06:40 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

Always use messages signed with your address

You mean sign from an old, staked legacy address, right? This post is a great example of a completely useless signed message, and it's not the first time I've seen it (ab)used this way.

It can be an old staked address, or he can use a new address for being escrow, or he can use new address for each job.
But, very important, in the last two cases the new address(es) have to be first "sealed" with a signed message coming from an old staked address.

That post you linked shows how a perfect storm can be made.
We get a campaign manager that's not that old in the business and maybe not too technical either.
We get a campaign that doesn't want to pay the price of more established campaign managers.
We get a lot of non-technical people in the campaign so they don't notice that the "signature" on those funds can hold bad surprises.
And then *spoof*, the money is gone and the campaign manager admits it that the has a hardware wallet, but he didn't use it for those funds (ffs!).
Are the money stolen by the manager or from the manager, it doesn't even matter.

I am sure that Gazeta can do much better (i.e. not getting even close to having funds stolen/lost). And if he has technical doubts, he is not afraid to ask.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 09, 2023, 12:54:14 PM

Always use messages signed with your address

You mean sign from an old, staked legacy address, right? This post is a great example of a completely useless signed message, and it's not the first time I've seen it (ab)used this way.

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I know that you are not only a reputable member of the community, but also a careful one, but in the light of some recent events, I will come with two advises (which I hope you already know and follow, but better one too much than one too few) :

* Always use messages signed with your address and ask the same from the parties of the deals. Make sure the parts are aware that only such signed messages are meaningful. Impersonation is a big risk in your business.
* Always store all the funds you need to work with on hardware wallet or cold storage. Just now a campaign manager has opened a topic saying that he got hacked and lost 5000$.

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Great to see your Escrow service and I would definitely consider you service in case I need an Escrow.
So far, you have been a very reliable member of Bitcointalk and shown you contribution to our community frequently.

Probably I'll need to change around 120$ of USDT into BTC or ETH (not sure yet) and if that deal would be eligible for your Escrow, I would be happy to get it done.
If so, I would reply here in early February again.

I don't want to use a centralized exchange as I would like to support Bitcointalk deals. Wink

Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on December 29, 2022, 08:26:39 AM

I will update OP once I will decide to add a fee for my service.

I've never offered an Escrow, so I don't know how time-consuming it'll be but it doesn't seem to be an easy job, some might want to scam you or their trading partner, so adding a fee would be justified as a compensation for your service.
Most Escrows charge some basis fees: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897 / https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/few-trusted-escrow-providers-5047302

Best wishes for your service!

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 08, 2023, 08:21:58 AM

I wish you best of luck and may all the trades you'll be escrowing be nice and smooth!

Thank you

Quote from: LoyceV on January 08, 2023, 08:26:10 AM

That's tricky: if you could know that for sure, they wouldn't need an escrow so you always have to assume the worst. I've seen escrow scams on Bitcointalk get quite advanced.

True... I'll try to be as careful as possible.

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on January 08, 2023, 07:27:48 AM

It was an interesting and very useful reading although, from my perspective, everything what is written there is common sense.

It's common sense for me too, that's why I was so surprised escrows are used in the wrong way. And considering the large fees they charge, I would have expected better.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 08, 2023, 08:21:58 AM

This looks easy, but can also be, at times, extremely difficult, tricky and with a great potential for troubles.

That's one of the reasons I never started such a service. I've only escrowed a few times when asked.

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on December 29, 2022, 08:26:39 AM

Gazeta's Escrow Service

This looks easy, but can also be, at times, extremely difficult, tricky and with a great potential for troubles.
I wish you best of luck and may all the trades you'll be escrowing be nice and smooth!

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