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legendary
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.
Four sticks run fine on 70W Superbpag, but fifth one is usually unstable-large number of errors.
However, sometimes, but not always, five work. In my experience it works depending on stick arrangement on the particular Superbpag hub-for example three in a row, gap, fourth, gap, fifth, on mine. But it not always work. Sometimes it works if you put four initially, let them stabilize, then sneak in the fifth one.

Also, make sure to separate sticks from each other by a piece of plastic (I simply used an old store card or old library card without magnetic strips, but this point might not matter). Otherwise, sticks touch each other in the hub and I am not sure that there is no interference.

TL;DR: five can work at default speed, but four are typically more stable on Superbpag.
sr. member
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.

Which Superbpag, they make a couple different ones, up to the 70W one's?

A easy test if it's the hub, pull 1 of the sticks that hashing OK and plug the bad hashing one in to the OK's one port. If it works, plug the just pulled OK one in where the bad one was and see what it does.
hero member
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

If you go back a little ways, I've managed to get my test stick to go in that hyper mode, the issue I think was, it got to hot, and the controller got confused, simple little trick, fan! Wink



Well, I'll attempt to recreate the "issue" and I'll get another screen-cap. I thought it was funny watching the little thing pulling 150GHs, I was waiting for smoke to bellow out!

Since the thing is sitting on a EEEPC701, to much voltage pulled would shut the system down, not make it pop a fuse.. I can see the green light dropping intensity when voltage starts getting pulled..

the best I got out of it.. pot to the max, 380Mhz burning the eeepc701's volt regs!
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.
sr. member
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Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?


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thanks, I meant this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2LK164

I don't see an upright 10-12 slot Plugable on Amazon-must be an earlier product.

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Yea, I've got one of those (the 7 port 60W ones) and it will do 4 stick at 175MHz (no Y cables (but that's kind of pushing it)). Had it before going with the Superbpag one.
sr. member
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
hero member
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For Clarification...
Morguk, Biodom told me, who was apparently told by that other kind member.  Information flows nicely Smiley

Ah right, thanks Biodom and friends! Smiley
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For Clarification...
Morguk, Biodom told me, who was apparently told by that other kind member.  Information flows nicely Smiley

newbie
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.
legendary
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Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?


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thanks, I meant this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2LK164

I don't see an upright 10-12 slot Plugable on Amazon-must be an earlier product.

Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?

yes but in my case on really high quality hubs.

a caveat I had 4 quality windows pc's and 2 good mac minis with vmware fusion windows

None of these setups worked really well .

So I used 1 of the pc's  with linux  and it has been close to perfect.

I ran 20 sticks at freq 300 on my 49 port eyeboot hub.

I ran 16 sticks at freq 350 on my 19 port eyeboot hub.

So I have found that all of my windows builds could not do it correctly  some did 4 sticks and the fifth dropped off.  If you look at these threads you will see my posts and how I got it fixed with a linux build

thanks, Philip
i have the ubuntu 15.10 built on my dual boot PC now after many tries fighting the stupid uefi and secure boot of win 8.1.
Anker works on it (Ubuntu) just fine.
that 20 slot eyeboot looks groovy, but I already have 2 superbpag's and one Anker, so spending another $150 $75 on eyeboot...I should have bought it in the beginning...
My significant other is competing with me on PC use and periodically switches off my "linux" stick since that PC is in her office and she can't handle "the other system" as she calls it...oh, well...
I will probably buy another PC just for Linux/sticks...this will fix it.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?

yes but in my case on really high quality hubs.

a cavat I had 4 quality windows pc's and 2 good mac minis with vmware fusion windows

None of these setups worked really well .

So I used 1 of the pc's  with linux  and it has been close to perfect.

I ran 20 sticks at freq 300 on my 49 port eyeboot hub.

I ran 16 sticks at freq 350 on my 19 port eyeboot hub.

So I have found that all of my windows builds could not do it correctly  some did 4 sticks and the fifth dropped off.  If you look at these threads you will see my posts and how I got it fixed with a linux build
legendary
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Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?


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legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?
hero member
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Yeah no worries, I just PMd him. Once he replies Ill get him to check the thread. As far as quantity goes, for now I wanted 2. But if we weren't to order for a few weeks I may get as many as 6 or so.

AJRGale did the Australia group buy but I'm not sure if he has any left to hand out.

Just got back to Rokz, since 2 people haven't piped up about the ones they've ordered I think I can restock them and cater for Rokz. Worst case is, they demand I get them one, I'll just give them one or 2 of mine, or get them something equivalent.
legendary
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There's also using a networked computer with SSH to access cgminer in a local screen session.

^^^that is certainly better and NO cost, but as I already have three hubs, each with pi's and also other people who use the same PC, it is simpler (and quicker) to just click the button to briefly check if everything is fine  Grin
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
There's also using a networked computer with SSH to access cgminer in a local screen session.
legendary
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Just to share:

If you have multiple sticks on several hubs and pi's and don't want to keep buying additional monitors, HDMI switch comes very handy.
I used the 3-port Cable Matters unit (Amazon), but you can get the 5-port unit almost at the same price.
There was a 3-port unit for just 18.99 before, but now they come at $29.99 with two HDMI cables included ($10 value).
There is a cheaper Fosmon unit for $12, but since reviews were mixed, I decided not to get one.

Simply click the button and switch the same monitor to another pi/hub/sticks. You would need monitor with hdmi, but most do have this connection nowdays.
legendary
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How many you looking at getting Rokz? I know sidehack is running orders for his second run and if there's enough interest I was thinking of doing a group buy for some. Or maybe if you get in contact with AJRGale, he might want to run it again (probably a benefit because he's trusted since handling the previous run)
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
AJRGale did the Australia group buy but I'm not sure if he has any left to hand out.
legendary
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Thanks both. Zou recommended to plug the 3.0 into a 2.0 hub first then to the Pi so will do that.

this works for some, but not all usb 3.0 powered hub (does not work for 10 slot usb 3.0 Anker). hopefully, yours qualify.
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