Topic: GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread - page 87. (Read 268015 times)
November 28, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
For the price 1 of these costs, why don't you just get an antminer U3 for around 40$ US
November 28, 2015, 06:15:02 PM
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
At 150 you should be ok even just air cooled. Extra cooling is recommended for 150+.
Not sure what happens if they get too hot as I've kept mine cool since overclocking.
I would assume they give HW errors then go 'zombie' if there are too many.
Dont think there's much risk of them burning up unless you go silly.
Not sure if there's ever been a proper burn in / up test done.
Ok, thanks
It is running so hot I can't even touch the heatsink without getting burned.
I haven't seen CGMiner generate HW-error's though.
What frequency are you running at? At 150 I can hold heatsink without cooling.
November 28, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
At 150 you should be ok even just air cooled. Extra cooling is recommended for 150+.
Not sure what happens if they get too hot as I've kept mine cool since overclocking.
I would assume they give HW errors then go 'zombie' if there are too many.
Dont think there's much risk of them burning up unless you go silly.
Not sure if there's ever been a proper burn in / up test done.
Ok, thanks
It is running so hot I can't even touch the heatsink without getting burned.
I haven't seen CGMiner generate HW-error's though.
November 28, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Yesterday I received the Stickminer.
Thank you Sidehack!
And I have got it running today.
I have not yet changed the voltage-setting. And I have not measured it yet.
I used the 150Mhz parameter.
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
Thank you Sidehack!
And I have got it running today.
I have not yet changed the voltage-setting. And I have not measured it yet.
I used the 150Mhz parameter.
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
At 150 you should be ok even just air cooled. Extra cooling is recommended for 150+.
Not sure what happens if they get too hot as I've kept mine cool since overclocking.
I would assume they give HW errors then go 'zombie' if there are too many.
Dont think there's much risk of them burning up unless you go silly.
Not sure if there's ever been a proper burn in / up test done.
November 28, 2015, 04:40:49 PM
Yesterday I received the Stickminer.
Thank you Sidehack!
And I have got it running today.
I have not yet changed the voltage-setting. And I have not measured it yet.
I used the 150Mhz parameter.
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
Thank you Sidehack!
And I have got it running today.
I have not yet changed the voltage-setting. And I have not measured it yet.
I used the 150Mhz parameter.
What if the Stickminer gets too hot?
Will it just generate errors?
Or is it more likely to burn up?
November 28, 2015, 05:16:11 AM
I'm running an Anker 60W 7-Port USB 3.0 hub: http://www.ianker.com/product/A7515111
With 5 sticks and an arctic usb fan plugged into it @ stock voltage its pretty stable @250MHz with very few HW errors, @275 pretty stable but with more HW errors and stick restarts, @300 even more HW errors, stick restarts and cgminer has shut down several times.
With this hub, 5 sticks and the fan the sweet spot seems to be @250. Each stick is ticking over @ 13GH.
I've got another stick arriving any day so we'll re-assess when that gets here 
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EDIT: 6th stick arrived as I was typing, all 6 are now running @250. Have had 1 HW error though in first 5 mins so this might be pushing it.
With 5 sticks and an arctic usb fan plugged into it @ stock voltage its pretty stable @250MHz with very few HW errors, @275 pretty stable but with more HW errors and stick restarts, @300 even more HW errors, stick restarts and cgminer has shut down several times.
With this hub, 5 sticks and the fan the sweet spot seems to be @250. Each stick is ticking over @ 13GH.
.EDIT: 6th stick arrived as I was typing, all 6 are now running @250
. Have had 1 HW error though in first 5 mins so this might be pushing it. 
November 28, 2015, 04:32:08 AM
the chart is amps at core volts. so you need to look at watts and divide by 5 volts. yes, a little inaccurate for what's probable at the USB port given the device needs to also support a couple other chips. by that chart 200mhz has a potential to be a min. of 580mA @ 5 volts, per device.
November 28, 2015, 04:19:14 AM
you sure this is accurate? im running 3 sticks at 200M which according to your sheet is pulling 13 amps?
As mentionned in the spreadsheet, the data in light blue cells is taken directly from the ASIC datasheet and the link is provided.
Page 3 of the spec sheet:
https://bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.1.pdf
You can doubt it, but don't shoot the messenger
I believe this column can be ignored as it is "internal Amp", not Amp at the USB port.
So the Power (W) column is the one you should really take into consideration
200Mhs is 2.899W at the port, so 5V / 0.5798A, slightly over USB2 standard Amp.
November 28, 2015, 04:07:00 AM
Also there is a thread dedicated to choosing a good hub for USB miners here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-usb-hub-to-use-with-block-erupters-nanofury-nf1-bpmc-red-fury-ant-u1-253749
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
yes but this one is for Block Erupter, using a lot less W.
Keep that in mind.
I made a spreadsheet here that will give you the W/stick depending on the frequency.
so:
- the hub power supply should have enough W for the number of compac you'll be running at the speed you set
- the hub should have provide enough A per ports (500mA for USB3, 900mA for USB3, some hubs override these values)
- you can use usb Y cables to power your stick using 2 ports (1A for USB2, 1.8A for USB3) ==>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-2-0-A-Female-to-2-Dual-male-Jack-Y-Splitter-Hub-Power-Cord-Adapter-Cable-/381121626377
you sure this is accurate? im running 3 sticks at 200M which according to your sheet is pulling 13 amps?
November 28, 2015, 03:22:31 AM
Also there is a thread dedicated to choosing a good hub for USB miners here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-usb-hub-to-use-with-block-erupters-nanofury-nf1-bpmc-red-fury-ant-u1-253749
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
yes but this one is for Block Erupter, using a lot less W.
Keep that in mind.
I made a spreadsheet here that will give you the W/stick depending on the frequency.
so:
- the hub power supply should have enough W for the number of compac you'll be running at the speed you set
- the hub should have provide enough A per ports (500mA for USB3, 900mA for USB3, some hubs override these values)
- you can use usb Y cables to power your stick using 2 ports (1A for USB2, 1.8A for USB3) ==>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-USB-2-0-A-Female-to-2-Dual-male-Jack-Y-Splitter-Hub-Power-Cord-Adapter-Cable-/381121626377
November 27, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
Also there is a thread dedicated to choosing a good hub for USB miners here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-usb-hub-to-use-with-block-erupters-nanofury-nf1-bpmc-red-fury-ant-u1-253749
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
It is a bit old but it helped me find a good USB hub. In my case I went for the Orico 10 port.
November 26, 2015, 07:35:56 AM
have a look in the nlast 10 pages or just type hub in the search while on this thread.. this will narrow the search to this thread only
November 26, 2015, 06:12:59 AM
At the moment I have got a R Pi and One Gekko Stickminer. But i have not set it up yet on my Pi as I want to order a fan to keep things cool I was just wondering what would be the best USB Hub I have got these stored in my basket on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
the DLINK has ports very close to each others so you may not physically fit than 4 sticks
both have limited power and are restricted to 500mA per ports so you'll need to use a Y USB cable to get to 1A/stick.
that will limit overclocking.
the fan I believe is very good.
Thanks for the reply , got any USB Hubs in mind you could recommend , because if I use a Y Cable im guessing im going to have to create a type of stand to hold the sticks up right
November 26, 2015, 05:50:24 AM
At the moment I have got a R Pi and One Gekko Stickminer. But i have not set it up yet on my Pi as I want to order a fan to keep things cool I was just wondering what would be the best USB Hub I have got these stored in my basket on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
the DLINK has ports very close to each others so you may not physically fit than 4 sticks
both have limited power and are restricted to 500mA per ports so you'll need to use a Y USB cable to get to 1A/stick.
that will limit overclocking.
the fan I believe is very good.
November 26, 2015, 05:09:57 AM
At the moment I have got a R Pi and One Gekko Stickminer. But i have not set it up yet on my Pi as I want to order a fan to keep things cool I was just wondering what would be the best USB Hub I have got these stored in my basket on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EH44AA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3E6P8SQY9T8G4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=A1Q8LHGBNWZQUW
and also this fan
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003XN24GY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1D873RMPMIV2C
I have also worked out return on mining and I be at a loss at the end of the yr, if I mine a pool, but I am doing this to learn and well fortunately enough I have a work site 40 miles away with free electric so once I have a better understanding I could set up something more viable their.
November 25, 2015, 06:26:17 PM
yea I have the A-300:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Cool-style-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-10-ports-with-CE-ROHS-FCC-certification/1938705_32513481030.html
looks according to the specs only 600mA per port...sucks.
I would still like to know if there is a way in general to test the max Amp per port on a US hub manually?
Thanks!
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Cool-style-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-10-ports-with-CE-ROHS-FCC-certification/1938705_32513481030.html
looks according to the specs only 600mA per port...sucks.
I would still like to know if there is a way in general to test the max Amp per port on a US hub manually?
Thanks!
someone said (sorry don't have the proper reference handy) that Superbpag usb 3.0 works fine with Raspberry pi and Compacs.
it has seven ports with 2A per port, apparently, for a total of 70W/14A, but costs $36, similar to 10 port Anker.
http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM
I've been looking for a good hub to mess around with overclocking this gekko (and likely more!).
This should work well - order placed.
November 25, 2015, 06:01:02 PM
Just in case anyone's interested and isn't watching the stick pool thread, one of my sticks did a 1B+ share today (1000065233.8890336) :
It's the same stick that won me a stick in the best share competition last weekend with an 11.6M share.
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.hedgy73stick
Compac stick pool thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nov-11-to-dec-11-sidehack-compac-stick-pool-club-new-run-1243205
:It's the same stick that won me a stick in the best share competition last weekend with an 11.6M share.
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.hedgy73stick
Compac stick pool thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nov-11-to-dec-11-sidehack-compac-stick-pool-club-new-run-1243205
November 25, 2015, 10:59:20 AM
Hi guys,
I am having trouble using this USB miner,
I have used the installation instructions which is written on the second page with --enable-gekko where i used cgminer-gekko.tar.gz
Should the USB just be detected after this?
When i start cgminer i see "No USB detected" but, pressing U and then l in the menu, it says Bus 1 Device 10 ID: 10c4:ea60 bitshopperde Compac BM1384 Bitcoin Miner inactive
I have tried every combination of OS (windows/linux/osx) with every combination of cg-miner/bfg-miner but none of it works.
Totally out of clues!
Hope you guys can help me!
Thanks!
I am having trouble using this USB miner,
I have used the installation instructions which is written on the second page with --enable-gekko where i used cgminer-gekko.tar.gz
Should the USB just be detected after this?
When i start cgminer i see "No USB detected" but, pressing U and then l in the menu, it says Bus 1 Device 10 ID: 10c4:ea60 bitshopperde Compac BM1384 Bitcoin Miner inactive
I have tried every combination of OS (windows/linux/osx) with every combination of cg-miner/bfg-miner but none of it works.
Totally out of clues!
Hope you guys can help me!
Thanks!
Hi, you are not alone, i have exactly the same problem with cgminer-gekko, sticks are not detected but appears in the usb menu as inactive. i dont know why . Maybe try bfgminer 5.4, it works for me.
Same situation with my stick from bitshopper. Bfgminer 5.4 has been working perfectly for me for weeks now though. Sidehack did mention earlier in the thread when I was reporting difficulties that it may be something in the gekko version of Cgminer as it was written before the Euro version was made. I'm not sure if it got investigated further.
November 24, 2015, 10:35:19 PM
Hi guys,
I am having trouble using this USB miner,
I have used the installation instructions which is written on the second page with --enable-gekko where i used cgminer-gekko.tar.gz
Should the USB just be detected after this?
When i start cgminer i see "No USB detected" but, pressing U and then l in the menu, it says Bus 1 Device 10 ID: 10c4:ea60 bitshopperde Compac BM1384 Bitcoin Miner inactive
I have tried every combination of OS (windows/linux/osx) with every combination of cg-miner/bfg-miner but none of it works.
Totally out of clues!
Hope you guys can help me!
Thanks!
I am having trouble using this USB miner,
I have used the installation instructions which is written on the second page with --enable-gekko where i used cgminer-gekko.tar.gz
Should the USB just be detected after this?
When i start cgminer i see "No USB detected" but, pressing U and then l in the menu, it says Bus 1 Device 10 ID: 10c4:ea60 bitshopperde Compac BM1384 Bitcoin Miner inactive
I have tried every combination of OS (windows/linux/osx) with every combination of cg-miner/bfg-miner but none of it works.
Totally out of clues!
Hope you guys can help me!
Thanks!
Hi, you are not alone, i have exactly the same problem with cgminer-gekko, sticks are not detected but appears in the usb menu as inactive. i dont know why . Maybe try bfgminer 5.4, it works for me.
November 24, 2015, 06:03:13 PM
He previously mentioned he was using cgminer-gekko, which is built with 4.9.2 pretty sure. In any case if he tried --enable-gekko building from the stock 4.9.2 it would have thrown an error. 4.9.2 will recognize the Compac as a U3 via Icarus if the WinUSB driver is installed for the device, or by default on Linux builds.
He also mentioned that he had the pot set to 550mV, which he'll be very very lucky if the stick detects at that voltage. Maybe at 100MHz? Almost impossible at 150MHz. Though, still should see the white LED flash a time or three while trying to initialize. Flat in the 3 o'clock gets you about 600mV; flat in the 12 o'clock actually wraps it around to full voltage (about 800mV).
My test setup pulls from a laptop USB port with some current limiting, and actually if the voltage is set too high the stick won't initialize because the buck gets starved and the core voltage drops out. This would happen even with the flat in 6 o'clock position, which runs a bit shy of 700mV.
He also mentioned that he had the pot set to 550mV, which he'll be very very lucky if the stick detects at that voltage. Maybe at 100MHz? Almost impossible at 150MHz. Though, still should see the white LED flash a time or three while trying to initialize. Flat in the 3 o'clock gets you about 600mV; flat in the 12 o'clock actually wraps it around to full voltage (about 800mV).
My test setup pulls from a laptop USB port with some current limiting, and actually if the voltage is set too high the stick won't initialize because the buck gets starved and the core voltage drops out. This would happen even with the flat in 6 o'clock position, which runs a bit shy of 700mV.
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