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Quote from: AndySt on July 13, 2023, 06:50:53 PM

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Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.

Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.

Bellingham's absence in the last game was due to an injury which required him to step aside on the pitch. Maybe that was the last game he wanted to play before leaving Dortmund and joining Real Madrid. But fate said otherwise and surprisingly Dortmund failed to win the bundesliga title and at the same time Bellingham failed to get a parting gift.

But as a star player Bellingham must learn to accept the harsh reality and he hopes to start a new step with Real Madrid. It is certain that Dortmund will still find it difficult to lose Bellingham during that time and there is no guarantee that there will be someone like him at the moment.

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Quote from: tusandii on July 14, 2023, 07:41:02 AM

Quote from: owengtam09 on July 14, 2023, 07:04:57 AM

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Yes if Westfalia Rhynern is just an average team then Dortmund will just run through them but at least we got to see the formation and play for the Current Dortmund team without Jude Bellingham,

Westfalia Rhynern is clearly no match for Dortmund and their 0 - 7 defeat to Dortmund has become an understanding for all of us that Westfalia Rhynern is just a bottom club that is very unlikely to be able to compete with other clubs.
Jude Bellingham has left and joined Real Madrid so why do Dortmund still have to stick with Jude Bellingham.
I believe Edin Terzic has better player options to replace Jude Bellingham and Edin Terzic can definitely take Dortmund to the top of the Bundesliga.

It's usually the first step for a team to start its pre-season matches with a much weaker opponent. But slowly they will get a balanced opponent when approaching the next season.
I'm not looking at the final result of this match, because no matter what score they get it's not a judgment call I make. I'm more looking at how they can play the game. I mean even with much weaker opponents, their form will be seen, and if their form is not good against weak teams, then it will affect how they play with stronger teams.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on July 14, 2023, 07:04:57 AM

The Level of performance the Bayern Munich will gain if their acquired Harry Kane is insane and Thomas Tuchel surely knows about this things, and he is likely putting up his play on the top of his head while creating the best team possible this season, right now if they can still add Sadio Mane to the group then that will be a great thing for Tuchel and Bayern Munich but if Thomas Tuchel couldn't save Sadio mane from getting out of the Bayern Munich then the possibility that they will move on without him is a possibility aswell,

of course if Bayern Munich will fight for Harry Kane because Kane's performance is very good and Bayern Munich officials know this. I'm not sure Mane is the best player at the moment, while the performance he gave last season was not optimal, so Bayern Munich might think about letting Mane go and try to pursue Harry Kane to be added to Bayern Munich's formation.
this is all done because Bayern Munich seems to have a desire to compete hard in the champions league so they want to get reliable players to be able to perform well in the champions league later.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on July 14, 2023, 07:04:57 AM

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Yes if Westfalia Rhynern is just an average team then Dortmund will just run through them but at least we got to see the formation and play for the Current Dortmund team without Jude Bellingham,

Westfalia Rhynern is clearly no match for Dortmund and their 0 - 7 defeat to Dortmund has become an understanding for all of us that Westfalia Rhynern is just a bottom club that is very unlikely to be able to compete with other clubs.
Jude Bellingham has left and joined Real Madrid so why do Dortmund still have to stick with Jude Bellingham.
I believe Edin Terzic has better player options to replace Jude Bellingham and Edin Terzic can definitely take Dortmund to the top of the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: bering on July 13, 2023, 10:25:32 AM

Dortmund has starting their pre season tour yesterday that they had big win against Germany 5th division team Westfalia Rhynern with huge scores 7-0 and as people predicted they were too strong to their opponent that since the beginning of match Dortmund were playing very agressive and in the first half Dortmund were able to leading 3-0 and their statistics during the match also looks fantastic that Dortmund has 79% ball possession and 36 total of shots

I know Dortmund opponent is so weak so i am not surprised if they can able to win with big scores but this first match is good to restore their players fitness and Dortmund next match will be against another weak team Rot-Weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday that Dortmund at least will have 6 pre season matches before Bundesliga starting again and next month Dortmund will fight against Premier League Chelsea and Manchester United

It goes to show that the Dortmund team is still that high of a team that can still competes in the Bundesliga but surely I really don't know about the Westfalia Rhynern that much so I assume they are just an average team, but for sure Dortmund already is readying their composed team for the upcoming season,

Yes if Westfalia Rhynern is just an average team then Dortmund will just run through them but at least we got to see the formation and play for the Current Dortmund team without Jude Bellingham,

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 13, 2023, 11:37:15 AM

but it seems that Tuchel is really serious about signing Kane. Tottenham also did not want to lose him actually. as there are rumors Tottenham is again offering a better salary to Kane. but it's possible that it wasn't what Kane was expecting. he could have moved to Munich as long as Munich had enough money to make up for it.
Tuchel looks like he will completely overhaul his team for this season. several players are reportedly ready to be released including Mane. and maybe this is also one of Munich's efforts to bring in Kane.

The Level of performance the Bayern Munich will gain if their acquired Harry Kane is insane and Thomas Tuchel surely knows about this things, and he is likely putting up his play on the top of his head while creating the best team possible this season, right now if they can still add Sadio Mane to the group then that will be a great thing for Tuchel and Bayern Munich but if Thomas Tuchel couldn't save Sadio mane from getting out of the Bayern Munich then the possibility that they will move on without him is a possibility aswell,

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 14, 2023, 04:04:35 AM

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Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.
If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.

Actually it is Dortmund's vision exactly. They don't prioritize becoming the champions in the Bundesliga. Instead they have a certain main vision that they have been maintaining for years. It is to bring young and talented players to the team for a cheap price and increase the speed of their development to make them young star players. After that they are okay to sell them for a really high amount of profit. These kind of players are using Dortmund as a steppingstone to join bigger teams.
Some of them push them to put a release clause on their contract as well though like Haaland did. This isn't good for Dortmund as they can sell them for higher amounts normally but there is nothing to do about it.

Now, I want to ask you guys why is it that the players do not see a proper future with Dortmund? The players also know that it is a strategy for Dortmund. They always sell players who will be able to make them a good amount of money. And if we look at what happened to the players who actually decided to stay in Dortmund, we will see that a great player like Reus was not able to achieve almost anything in his career by doing so. But he could have gone to other clubs and actually won a lot of things. So of course the players are going to think staying loyal to Dortmund is going to be a bad decision for their career.

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Quote from: wiss19 on July 14, 2023, 04:25:40 AM

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In the end, they still need a great scorer, not just a striker, but someone who looks to score at all times, Kane could be the best option available right now, but if they can't, they shouldn't lose too much time trying to get him and try to find someone else that could work for them in the end.

but it seems that Tuchel is really serious about signing Kane. Tottenham also did not want to lose him actually. as there are rumors Tottenham is again offering a better salary to Kane. but it's possible that it wasn't what Kane was expecting. he could have moved to Munich as long as Munich had enough money to make up for it.
Tuchel looks like he will completely overhaul his team for this season. several players are reportedly ready to be released including Mane. and maybe this is also one of Munich's efforts to bring in Kane.

Here Thomas Tuchel's insist working, and Bayern Munich are increasing their bid for the Harry Kane as we have reports last bid from them is now €90 million which is surely near their target of Levy Tottenham chairman which also understand this is last chance for him to have amount like this hopefully we will have positive end of this all negotiation between all parties because Harry Kane is also now wants to go Bavarian's for this desire to win trophies and have his name as one of the greatest player of this era.

As things are going most chances we will have this deal complete at this price and if still things not gone in favor of the Bavarian's then surely they will also go for the desired amount of the Levy which is €100 million because they are also feeling with the arrival of Harry Kane things can go much better than last season and Sadio Mané exit could be also settled after this deal.

@wiss19 money is not an issue for Kane but if he doesn’t leave Tottenham now then there’s a high probability that he may never win any trophy and for a player of his caliber it’ll be really shameful if he retires without winning anything in the long run. Furthermore Bayern also needs him as the team can be built around him and he can guarantee them lots of goals and he can further increase their chances of dominating the Bundesliga hence they should sign him immediately.

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Bayern Munich have been trying to offload Alexander Nübel for some time while Alexander Nübel has been trying to leave Bayern Munich for some time. It looks like neither of them were successful in their endeavors and might have to (reluctantly) link up again:

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It's quite strange to see alex try to leave from bayern instead of being secondary goal keeper for the club. Neuer will not always become a starting lineup. Sommer is heading toward intermilan. It gives alex another chance to take neuer's position for some time.
I can't even agree with alex's decision by trying to leave the club. He must see it as an opportunity for his career. Bayern can try to convince him to go back again to the bayern instead of buying a new goal keeper.

My guess is that alex didn't like bayern caused by the club didn't guarantee to be regular starter for the club.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 13, 2023, 11:37:15 AM

Quote from: sana54210 on July 13, 2023, 11:26:42 AM

In the end, they still need a great scorer, not just a striker, but someone who looks to score at all times, Kane could be the best option available right now, but if they can't, they shouldn't lose too much time trying to get him and try to find someone else that could work for them in the end.

but it seems that Tuchel is really serious about signing Kane. Tottenham also did not want to lose him actually. as there are rumors Tottenham is again offering a better salary to Kane. but it's possible that it wasn't what Kane was expecting. he could have moved to Munich as long as Munich had enough money to make up for it.
Tuchel looks like he will completely overhaul his team for this season. several players are reportedly ready to be released including Mane. and maybe this is also one of Munich's efforts to bring in Kane.

Here Thomas Tuchel's insist working, and Bayern Munich are increasing their bid for the Harry Kane as we have reports last bid from them is now €90 million which is surely near their target of Levy Tottenham chairman which also understand this is last chance for him to have amount like this hopefully we will have positive end of this all negotiation between all parties because Harry Kane is also now wants to go Bavarian's for this desire to win trophies and have his name as one of the greatest player of this era.

As things are going most chances we will have this deal complete at this price and if still things not gone in favor of the Bavarian's then surely they will also go for the desired amount of the Levy which is €100 million because they are also feeling with the arrival of Harry Kane things can go much better than last season and Sadio Mané exit could be also settled after this deal.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 14, 2023, 04:04:35 AM

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Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.

If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.

Actually it is Dortmund's vision exactly. They don't prioritize becoming the champions in the Bundesliga. Instead they have a certain main vision that they have been maintaining for years. It is to bring young and talented players to the team for a cheap price and increase the speed of their development to make them young star players. After that they are okay to sell them for a really high amount of profit. These kind of players are using Dortmund as a steppingstone to join bigger teams.

Some of them push them to put a release clause on their contract as well though like Haaland did. This isn't good for Dortmund as they can sell them for higher amounts normally but there is nothing to do about it.

LOL, obviously you have no clue. Have you ever seen interviews with Dortmund's managers? Why would they even try to extend these player's contracts if all they are aiming for is money. They could just sell them and move on to the next "project" .
This makes no sense. Dortmund wants to win. Titles bring money, more TV money, higher sponsorship deals. That's why Bayern is rich and Dortmund isn't. They win, they earn.

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Quote from: Nheer on July 13, 2023, 04:36:20 PM

Even though it's their first game, preseason games doesn’t always have to be played against tough opponents. Preseason games are merely held to put the team to the test to improve their match fitness level and help them gel, as well as to offer newly signed players a chance to contribute. The results don't really matter because some poor opponents even manage to defeat a strong side in a preseason game. They'll likely play a better squad before the preseason is up to see how emotionally and physically ready they are for the season.

Dortmund has the chance to not only win these opening games but also to give its players a chance to get healthy and back into shape. Dortmund will have another opportunity to hone their performance and get ready for the challenges ahead when they take on Rot weiß Oberhausen on Wednesday. Dortmund will have plenty of time to evaluate their roster develop their ideas and make sure that their players are in great form with six preseason games left until the Bundesliga resumes. Looking further ahead Dortmund will definitely be put to the test in their matches against Premier League powerhouses Chelsea and Manchester United next month offering thrilling chances for them to shine on a greater platform.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 14, 2023, 03:50:17 AM

Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.

If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.

Actually it is Dortmund's vision exactly. They don't prioritize becoming the champions in the Bundesliga. Instead they have a certain main vision that they have been maintaining for years. It is to bring young and talented players to the team for a cheap price and increase the speed of their development to make them young star players. After that they are okay to sell them for a really high amount of profit. These kind of players are using Dortmund as a steppingstone to join bigger teams.

Some of them push them to put a release clause on their contract as well though like Haaland did. This isn't good for Dortmund as they can sell them for higher amounts normally but there is nothing to do about it.

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Quote from: poodle63 on July 13, 2023, 11:04:52 PM

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Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.

Less chemistry during the last match of last season. Dortmund was missing golden opportunity to win bundesliga. That's very disappointed result for all of dortmund fans. Bayern was lucky enough to be helped by mainz at the last match.
I know how hurt it was for all of dortmund fans.

Why are we, months after the last game, still talk about this? The season is over, the new one is just around the corner.

Everybody knows what happened, so enough writing the same posts just to collect signature campaign posts please.

Also, it is NOT Dortmund's strategy to sell players. With every strong player that left they tried to keep him for at least 1 more year. They offered new deals with higher payment to Haaland, Bellingham, Sancho, and so on, so where would that make sense if they just want money. Dortmund wants success, they want to win titles.

If players want to move on for a big pay day and to a big name in European football you can't stop them. They have the power when their contract is expiring, nothing Dortmund can do.

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Onana's transfer to Manchester United seems to be done at any time because he is really close and on the other hand they lost their first goalkeeper De Gea which can show us Onana's transfer is nearly done. Also, Bayern Munich is not going to have a long-term plan with Neuer because of his age, also he is still getting recovered and not ready for the games.

Manuel Neuer seems to be at the end of his career at Bayern Munich considering he only has one season contract still valid. Manuel Neuer is 37 years old but he can still play at a very high level, but due to his physical condition and frequent injuries it is clear that Bayern Munich needs to think about his future.

Yann Sommer and Sven Ulreich are also 33 and 34 years old, so of course Bayern Munich really have to think about a suitable replacement for them. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich has 2 young goalkeepers in Alexander Nubel and Johannes Schenk, but both of them have not received much trust from the coach to appear with the first team.

Without any doubt Manuel Neuer is still their best goalkeeper but with his current injury status things are looking not good because most chances he will join after few rounds of next season, and they have already done their homework for the alternative which is quite useful even new goalkeeper is also 34, but he will do good job for them in coming season, and they also have few other options even China goalkeeper is quite young but after 3 or 4 years he could be also good and can replace as first choice goalkeeper for them.

Now most chances they will give chance to Yann Sommer before having Manuel Neuer as their first choice with he is now having last season at the club if his injury and performance allow him for the better than hopefully things could be gone positive for him.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 14, 2023, 03:02:12 AM

Sommer is also likely to join Inter this summer as they are about to lose Onana to Manchester United. Neuer got injured for a long time in the previous season. I'm curious about how good he will return to the game. He is 37 years old now yeah but he is still Neuer. Bayern Munich might not want to replace him now before seeing his performance next season.

However they can find a replacement for Sommer on one hand as he is likely to leave as I said. They had better find a player who doesn't care about being Neuer's substitute much. Because Sommer doesn't want this now.

It depends if Manuel Neuer will be getting to his full fitness back without any issue.
I saw a report yesterday from skysport about the situation around Neuer and the Goalkeepers at Bayern Munich.
And they say that he is not already ready for games and it will be taking more time for Manuel Neuer to getting back.
But we will see who the first Keeper is when the season starts.

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So far we have seen two free transfers by Bayern Munich side which has been their only activity. Konrad Laimer and Raphaël Guerreiro have joined the team in this way. But I must say that these are both really good additions to the team to have a bigger squad depth. But this won't be the only action they take of course.

A right-back and of course a centre-forward seem to be urgent for them to transfer. They have been interested in Kyle Walker for right-back position for a while and they are waiting on the player's decision. He still has one more year left on his contract but we will see. For striker transfer you already know that their priority is Kane. Apart from that Julian Alvarez is also rumoured.

I think the first priority for Bayern Munich is not hiring a good forward and goalkeeper to have alternative for Neuer because he is getting old, as forward they are waiting for Tottenham and Harry Kane because they know the first and best forward they can target is is currently Kane however I think Bayern Munich got some alternative options for Kane.

Sommer is also likely to join Inter this summer as they are about to lose Onana to Manchester United. Neuer got injured for a long time in the previous season. I'm curious about how good he will return to the game. He is 37 years old now yeah but he is still Neuer. Bayern Munich might not want to replace him now before seeing his performance next season.

However they can find a replacement for Sommer on one hand as he is likely to leave as I said. They had better find a player who doesn't care about being Neuer's substitute much. Because Sommer doesn't want this now.

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If Sadio Mane will really leave Bayern Munich again after only 1 year, then i think this was definitely one of the most disappointing transfers of Bayern Munich in the last decade. Mane was an absolute world class player at Liverpool and when the first rumors started to appear last year that Mane might come to Bayern Munich i think many did not even believe it at the beginning. Then he really came and the expectations where extremely high obviously. Sadly it did not work out at all, at least not in the last part of the season. At the beginning everything was ok i would say.
If Bayern will sell Mane then they can save his very high salary of 22 Million € per year. This is even more important than the transfer fee they will get for him.

The big money for Mane can be easily paid by a club in Saudi Arabia, there are several clubs that are interested. When I read that Mane received 20 million euros per year, it was a big mistake. They should let him go for any price. I remember a team picture from the Oktoberfest where Mane was the only one of all the players not holding a glass of beer in his hand... over 35 people.

His injury with performance in only season here at Bayern Munich is considering the club to sell him with as we all know right now Saudi Pro League is having good offers for him, but he is already rejected as Al-Ahli wants to re-unit him with former teammate Roberto Firmino, but it's not going to happen because he still wants to play here in Europe and most chances he will have good deal from Manchester Untied even right now nothing is official but in case of Harry Kane arrival here he has to pack-up and go through for another season in English Premier League.

Even he still deserves chance here but as reports are coming Bayern Munich needs fund for the Harry Kane, and they are already reduce the price of his transfer as well from £20 million to £17 million which is surely giving impression they want to offload him with last year they bring him to the price of £35 million from the Liverpool.

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Quote from: AndySt on July 13, 2023, 06:50:53 PM

Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.

Less chemistry during the last match of last season. Dortmund was missing golden opportunity to win bundesliga. That's very disappointed result for all of dortmund fans. Bayern was lucky enough to be helped by mainz at the last match.
I know how hurt it was for all of dortmund fans.

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Quote from: superman184 on July 13, 2023, 06:13:08 PM

Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.

It is Dortmund tradition and it is their strategy which was seriously applied after their club got a crisis and they carried about 100 million euros of debt in 2005. It is because they overpaid for player transfers and salary as well as some other costs after they won Champions League in 1996 - 1997 season.

After luckily solved that crisis, Dortmund changed their strategy and focus more on finding youth players around the world, give them chances to grow up and sell them to help the club finance. They also don't agree to increase salary of their star players too much because they do know how it will be harmful for the club finance in long term.

They had a Champions League runner up in 2012 - 2013 season but about 10 years later, they did not fall into another financial crisis that proves their strategy works fine.

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Quote from: superman184 on July 13, 2023, 06:13:08 PM

Dortmund is a team that very often sells the best players they have printed and almost every season is like that. I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to find a replacement for Bellingham which they sold to Real Madrid, because selling the best players is like a business for Dortmund so I will never be surprised when in the future Dortmund sells the best players again after they have trained them with pretty good. Likewise with Bellingham which they have sold to Real Madrid.

Actually, I think it was Bellingham's absence in the last round match that prevented Borussia Dortmund from winning the coveted title and interrupting the hegemony of Bayern Munich. Therefore, I would choose words with great care that it would not be difficult for Borussia to find a replacement for Bellingham. Moreover, now Bellingham cannot even theoretically go out on the football field and help Dortmund in the new season.

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