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Quote from: Cryptmuster on June 03, 2023, 02:49:15 AM

You should not count on a comeback from Hamburg, if only because they have a weak defense, they conseded a lot and this is clearly seen in the last matches, the match with Stuttgart was no exception. Most likely, they will also concede at least one goal in the second leg, which will mean that they will need to score a lot, and Stuttgart, even with strong rivals such as Bayer and Hoffenheim, conceded only one goal per match, so Hamburg has no chance.

i also said so in another thread that Hamburg will miss out on that game due to poor defensive strength and too much scoring pressure Stuttgart have.
it will be very difficult for Hamburg to catch up with the aggregate score that Stuttgart has 3-0 on one side. In fact, Stuttgart is not an equal opponent to Hamburg because Stuttgart are used to competing in Bundesliga 1 against strong teams, while Hamburg does not have this experience.

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No matter how hard they are trying Hamburg are about to lose another chance for the Bundesliga promotion. After leaving a long season behind I would have expected them to be more challenging for Stuttgart in play-out round. However they were a big mess in the first leg by losing 3-0. I don't think we would see any comeback in this matchup.

This is the second time in a row for Hamburg that they fail. They just can't get past their opponents in play-out so they should try harder for finishing in top 2 next time. I know they should be stronger than this normally. Otherwise how can they beat Bundesliga teams when they have a promotion? But they can at least reach their first target by making it back to the Bundesliga.

You should not count on a comeback from Hamburg, if only because they have a weak defense, they conseded a lot and this is clearly seen in the last matches, the match with Stuttgart was no exception. Most likely, they will also concede at least one goal in the second leg, which will mean that they will need to score a lot, and Stuttgart, even with strong rivals such as Bayer and Hoffenheim, conceded only one goal per match, so Hamburg has no chance.

No matter how well any team performs now, the Bundesliga title has been secured by Bayern Munich. But as these matches are held, the teams are becoming more tactical and hardworking.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 02, 2023, 06:34:26 PM

No matter how hard they are trying Hamburg are about to lose another chance for the Bundesliga promotion. After leaving a long season behind I would have expected them to be more challenging for Stuttgart in play-out round. However they were a big mess in the first leg by losing 3-0. I don't think we would see any comeback in this matchup.

This is the second time in a row for Hamburg that they fail. They just can't get past their opponents in play-out so they should try harder for finishing in top 2 next time. I know they should be stronger than this normally. Otherwise how can they beat Bundesliga teams when they have a promotion? But they can at least reach their first target by making it back to the Bundesliga.

You should not count on a comeback from Hamburg, if only because they have a weak defense, they conseded a lot and this is clearly seen in the last matches, the match with Stuttgart was no exception. Most likely, they will also concede at least one goal in the second leg, which will mean that they will need to score a lot, and Stuttgart, even with strong rivals such as Bayer and Hoffenheim, conceded only one goal per match, so Hamburg has no chance.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 02, 2023, 06:34:26 PM

No matter how hard they are trying Hamburg are about to lose another chance for the Bundesliga promotion. After leaving a long season behind I would have expected them to be more challenging for Stuttgart in play-out round. However they were a big mess in the first leg by losing 3-0. I don't think we would see any comeback in this matchup.

This is the second time in a row for Hamburg that they fail. They just can't get past their opponents in play-out so they should try harder for finishing in top 2 next time. I know they should be stronger than this normally. Otherwise how can they beat Bundesliga teams when they have a promotion? But they can at least reach their first target by making it back to the Bundesliga.

They must create at least 3 goals to bring the extra time round, and even then they cannot concede. But scoring 3 goals against a team that is in a motivated state is definitely not going to be easy. Stuttgart will definitely keep their defense as good as possible in this game, because I believe they are only aiming for a draw to get them back in the Bundesliga for next season.

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Leipzig vs Frankfurt, the final match will be seen soon and it will surely present an interesting match from the two teams. I think Leipzig is the favorite, the bookie also gives them a big chance to win this match. But that doesn't mean Frankfurt can't become champions, there is still hope, even though the chances are not as big as those of Leipzig. Both teams will be showing their best in the final game of the season.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on June 03, 2023, 12:10:01 AM

first there were rumours. but since yesterday it is official. borussia mönchengladbach has sacked coach farke.
also the co-coaches edmund riemer, christopher john and chris domogalla have been sacked. mönchengladbach has only reached rank 10 in the 1.bundesliga.
that is not enough for the presidium and the fans. but who will be the new coach ? gerardo seoane ?

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/borussia-monchengladbach-part-ways-with-coach-daniel-farke-23689

At the beginning of season Monchengladbach management has targetting to finish at european zone but Daniel Farke has failed to meet their expectations because Mönchengladbach only finish at 10th place and they had 7 difference points below to Leverkusen who has 7th place and that's why they were decide to sacked him and his assistants and i think Monchengladbach next season will be so different than now because possibly they will have new manager and some of their players such as Marcus Thuram, Ramy Bensebaini, and Lars Stindl also possibly will leave with free transfer and besides that they will lost Manu Kone because this player is targetting by Liverpool however about new manager besides Gerardo Seoane one name was linked to them too Thomas Letsch

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first there were rumours. but since yesterday it is official. borussia mönchengladbach has sacked coach farke.
also the co-coaches edmund riemer, christopher john and chris domogalla have been sacked. mönchengladbach has only reached rank 10 in the 1.bundesliga.
that is not enough for the presidium and the fans. but who will be the new coach ? gerardo seoane ?

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/borussia-monchengladbach-part-ways-with-coach-daniel-farke-23689

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Quote from: len01 on June 02, 2023, 04:05:00 PM

it looks like Hamburg lost badly to Stuttgart with a score that Sturrgart already has 3 points which is very easy for Stuttgart to win the Playoffs and continue in the bundesliga.
Indeed, if we saw the live broadcast of the match between Stuttgart vs Hamburg yesterday, it was very funny that the Hamburg players really weren't ready to face the Stuttgart players. several times the Hamburg defense seemed difficult to block when the attack was aimed at the goal.

No chance for hamburg. I would not even watch the second leg caused by the result is clear if stuttgart will stay. Congratulation for stuttgart from staying in the bundesliga.
Two teams from Fußball-Bundesliga darmstadt and heidenheim will be qualified for bundesliga. These clubs gonna replace schalke and hertha berlin which are performing so badly. Stuttgart was lucky enough caused by it was facing a weak opponent in the playoff.

All of stutgart players are very happy with the result from the first leg. Hamburg must be losing its dream to be promoted into the bundesliga.

That's a very bad result for hamburg. I do believe if all of hamburg players are hoping so much to be promoted into the bundesliga. It will help the team to get more income from participating in bundesliga.

Im very disappointed to see schalke must be relegated to the lower division but since schalke has been performing so badly in the bundesliga.
Schalke deserves it.

I just want to talk about Dortmund, the team tried impossibly late but failed to secure the title only because they didn't win the last match. It is impossible to say how the next season will be, Bayern will build themselves even stronger for the next season. As such, it remains to be seen what Dortmund do next.

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Quote from: len01 on June 02, 2023, 04:05:00 PM

it looks like Hamburg lost badly to Stuttgart with a score that Sturrgart already has 3 points which is very easy for Stuttgart to win the Playoffs and continue in the bundesliga.
Indeed, if we saw the live broadcast of the match between Stuttgart vs Hamburg yesterday, it was very funny that the Hamburg players really weren't ready to face the Stuttgart players. several times the Hamburg defense seemed difficult to block when the attack was aimed at the goal.

No chance for hamburg. I would not even watch the second leg caused by the result is clear if stuttgart will stay. Congratulation for stuttgart from staying in the bundesliga.
Two teams from Fußball-Bundesliga darmstadt and heidenheim will be qualified for bundesliga. These clubs gonna replace schalke and hertha berlin which are performing so badly. Stuttgart was lucky enough caused by it was facing a weak opponent in the playoff.

All of stutgart players are very happy with the result from the first leg. Hamburg must be losing its dream to be promoted into the bundesliga.

That's a very bad result for hamburg. I do believe if all of hamburg players are hoping so much to be promoted into the bundesliga. It will help the team to get more income from participating in bundesliga.

Im very disappointed to see schalke must be relegated to the lower division but since schalke has been performing so badly in the bundesliga.
Schalke deserves it.

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No matter how hard they are trying Hamburg are about to lose another chance for the Bundesliga promotion. After leaving a long season behind I would have expected them to be more challenging for Stuttgart in play-out round. However they were a big mess in the first leg by losing 3-0. I don't think we would see any comeback in this matchup.

This is the second time in a row for Hamburg that they fail. They just can't get past their opponents in play-out so they should try harder for finishing in top 2 next time. I know they should be stronger than this normally. Otherwise how can they beat Bundesliga teams when they have a promotion? But they can at least reach their first target by making it back to the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 02, 2023, 06:19:03 PM

with the end of the bayern games i keep wondering what will be the next step for tuchel, where will he sell and who will he buy to improve in attack and if bayern will be building a team with a mission to win the champions league, these are things that we will see in the coming days or weeks, but some things are clear to me right now, which are: bayern did a bad deal in having brought tuchel without first having completely distanced themselves from the coach who was before tuchel, also bayern did not do good signings before tuchel arrived on the team is one of those bad signings

it was mane's signing, he had a moment in liverpool when he didn't score goals, it took him a long time to score goals again and when he scored again it didn't take much more than 2 months to move to bayern, no doubt that bayern did not analyze the situation of mane at that moment and did not analyze the situation of the composition of the bayern team at that moment, I think that tuchel needs to pay attention to that part, because bayern seems to have lost that good ability they had to choose great players for playing for the team and this is causing the team to lose a lot of that identity they had of being a team that scores a lot of goals

Bayern Munich won the championship, but this was their opponent's gift to them. They should be champions in the new season without needing such a gift. His biggest weakness is the striker. A team like Bayern Munich needs a star striker. Mane could not adapt to the team. I thought Mane transfer would be good, but unfortunately it didn't happen. While planning the new season, their priority will definitely be the striker.

Bayern Munich fans want success in the Champions League. Now that they've won the league cup every year, it's considered commonplace for them. If they can make a star striker transfer, it will take time to adapt to the team. That's why they need to get it as soon as the transfer window opens.

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with the end of the bayern games i keep wondering what will be the next step for tuchel, where will he sell and who will he buy to improve in attack and if bayern will be building a team with a mission to win the champions league, these are things that we will see in the coming days or weeks, but some things are clear to me right now, which are: bayern did a bad deal in having brought tuchel without first having completely distanced themselves from the coach who was before tuchel, also bayern did not do good signings before tuchel arrived on the team is one of those bad signings

it was mane's signing, he had a moment in liverpool when he didn't score goals, it took him a long time to score goals again and when he scored again it didn't take much more than 2 months to move to bayern, no doubt that bayern did not analyze the situation of mane at that moment and did not analyze the situation of the composition of the bayern team at that moment, I think that tuchel needs to pay attention to that part, because bayern seems to have lost that good ability they had to choose great players for playing for the team and this is causing the team to lose a lot of that identity they had of being a team that scores a lot of goals

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Quote from: snipie on June 02, 2023, 03:42:51 PM

That was a disastrous result. Stuttgart pushed since the beginning of the match, scoring a goal as early as the first minute. 2 other goals followed in the second half and ironically Stuttgart didn't score after the red card taken by a Hamburg player.
I think it is over for the play-offs, I highly doubt Hamburg could score 3 goals without taking any in the second leg..

Stuttgart didn't wanna let the momentum gone. It was always pushing its opponent since this is the only way for stuttgart to stay in the bundesliga next season. it's far better to use everything right now rather than running from the start again through winning bundesliga 2 to be qualified for the bundesliga. Since hamburg was losing a big score against stuttgart and im thinking if hamburg has been losing its hope to be qualified for the bundesliga next season. Stuttgart was showing how its level is far above hamburgh during the match for the playoff qualification. In my opinion that if hamburg will be losing its spot.
The chance has already gone since the first leg. The second leg will be the same. Hamburg seems to be easy match for first and second leg.

It can be seen from hamburg feels so difficult to win against stuttgart. Stuttgart is way dominating the match.

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Not good when we see Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title for another time, every season in Bundesliga we usually see Bayern Munich winning the title, and other teams can't even race with them because of the much more investment they have for their teams, and this made Bundesliga boring.
But in this season because of the unstable situation in Bayern Munich Dortmund had a good chance to win the title after more than ten years which could be a great achievement for them and they failed.

Dortmund was almost winning it but yeah that's really boring to see bayern won bundesliga for eleven times in a row. Bayern was lucky enough to see dortmund drawn in the last match. In my opinion if i shall give good rating for this season caused by the competition is far better than the previous seasons. There have been so many pressures were coming to the bayern. it's not only a league when there was a team who dominated the match and make huge gap compared to the its opponent.
I have been always enjoying the match in bundesliga since the beginning of season. There have been many surprises were coming from bundesliga this season. The competition heats up when the top team has only small gap to compete for the trophy.
I hope that the next season will be the same like this season and we will have a new winner for next season. Dortmund needs to learn from its past experience.

The German Bundesliga is the most boring league among Europe's big five leagues because of the conception among football fans that there's certainty that Bayern Munich are gonna be champions even before the league kick starts and that I think isn't a good advert for German football.
Borussia Dortmund was closer than they've ever did since they last won the league last in 2012 this season but still faltered on their last match if the season to allow Bayern Munich retain the title

Even if Bayern Munich still won the league this season, I think the season was very much interesting. Bayern Munich performance was something else this season and it was not expected for them to win. Bayern Munich and Dortmund competition toward the first point was interesting. If Bayern Munich had won the league with a huge point difference, then I'll agree the league was not interesting. But since Bayern Munich had to struggle to become the champion of Bundesliga, I think league is an interesting on this season.

Even the Bayern Munich fans couldn't be sure to say their team is going to win the title at the end of this season.
Because they had an unstable situation during this season most of the time and especially after their fired their coach and hire Tuchel none could imagine what was going to happen to this team. I think Bayern Munich could lose the title this season if Dortmund could use the chance they had.

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Your choice doesn't seem wrong in this case, but indeed in this match I was quite surprised by the score you had.
Even though Stuttgart were absolute favorites for the first leg but of course I didn't expect too much at first about the score but indeed 3-0 was the answer in this game.
They seem to have set foot in the bundesliga again next season even though there is still a 2nd leg which will be held in 3 days.

If even in the first leg Stuttgart could win a landslide victory with a score of 3-0, it would have been safe enough for Stuttgart to win again in the second leg, although not with too many goals. Apart from that, Stuttgart also still has ambitions to continue to improve in the Bundesliga next season so Stuttgart will really try in the second leg match later for the next victory because I believe that Stuttgart still has the ability to make that happen in the near future.

Now they just need to play as safe as possible for the second leg and I think even if there is still a chance for Hamburg to turn things around but it is quite difficult to do and without a doubt Stuttgart are still in very good condition to stay in the bundesliga next season.
But of course we still have to wait for things like this to see if in the end Hamburg can reverse and correct the mistakes in the previous season which failed or instead have to fail again this season.

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Not good when we see Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title for another time, every season in Bundesliga we usually see Bayern Munich winning the title, and other teams can't even race with them because of the much more investment they have for their teams, and this made Bundesliga boring.
But in this season because of the unstable situation in Bayern Munich Dortmund had a good chance to win the title after more than ten years which could be a great achievement for them and they failed.

Dortmund was almost winning it but yeah that's really boring to see bayern won bundesliga for eleven times in a row. Bayern was lucky enough to see dortmund drawn in the last match. In my opinion if i shall give good rating for this season caused by the competition is far better than the previous seasons. There have been so many pressures were coming to the bayern. it's not only a league when there was a team who dominated the match and make huge gap compared to the its opponent.
I have been always enjoying the match in bundesliga since the beginning of season. There have been many surprises were coming from bundesliga this season. The competition heats up when the top team has only small gap to compete for the trophy.
I hope that the next season will be the same like this season and we will have a new winner for next season. Dortmund needs to learn from its past experience.

The German Bundesliga is the most boring league among Europe's big five leagues because of the conception among football fans that there's certainty that Bayern Munich are gonna be champions even before the league kick starts and that I think isn't a good advert for German football.
Borussia Dortmund was closer than they've ever did since they last won the league last in 2012 this season but still faltered on their last match if the season to allow Bayern Munich retain the title

Even if Bayern Munich still won the league this season, I think the season was very much interesting. Bayern Munich performance was something else this season and it was not expected for them to win. Bayern Munich and Dortmund competition toward the first point was interesting. If Bayern Munich had won the league with a huge point difference, then I'll agree the league was not interesting. But since Bayern Munich had to struggle to become the champion of Bundesliga, I think league is an interesting on this season.

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Stuttgart won a big victory after successfully overthrowing their opponent Hamburg with a score of 3-0 without reply. The victory in the first leg is very meaningful for Stuttgart as the initial capital to play the second leg later at home to Hamburg on 6 June 2023.
I think Hamburg will at least give a fierce resistance in this match, but it seems they can't do anything and have to fight again to be able to turn things around in the second leg. It looks like Hamburg's chances of winning are getting slimmer despite being favored as the host in the second leg and Stuttgart will definitely be aiming for their second victory on the road later.

Hamburg must score 4 goals. They will not manage that. I do not see even 3 goals to get into overtime. Stuttgart can go to Hamburg very relaxed. They will probably even score a goal very early.
Too bad, I would have like to see Hamburg back in Bundesliga 1. But now Darmstadt and Heidenheim are coming. The stadiums have a capacity of 17,000 and 15,000 spectators. And the population of Heidenheim is even smaller than the capacity of Hamburgs stadium.

I also think so, that it is very difficult for Hamburg to catch up with the goals scored by Stuttgart in the first leg. Indeed, in a football match anything can happen, but now the position is very difficult, especially Stuttgart will also maintain the advantage they created in this first leg. I think it will be very difficult to create just 2 goals for Hamburg against Stuttgart, but we'll see if there will be any surprises or not.

I'd say it's almost impossible for Hamburger to qualify for the Bundesliga. Because they played very badly against Stuttgart in the first leg. Hamburger's attacking players performed poorly. As usual, their defense was also weak in this match. And the important thing is that the Hamburger team lost 3-0. In the second leg, Hamburger will win by more than 3 goals. The second leg is an away match to Stuttgart. The hamburger will never win by 3 goals if Stuttgart plays a completely defensive strategy.

it looks like Hamburg lost badly to Stuttgart with a score that Sturrgart already has 3 points which is very easy for Stuttgart to win the Playoffs and continue in the bundesliga.
Indeed, if we saw the live broadcast of the match between Stuttgart vs Hamburg yesterday, it was very funny that the Hamburg players really weren't ready to face the Stuttgart players. several times the Hamburg defense seemed difficult to block when the attack was aimed at the goal.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 02, 2023, 12:17:10 PM

Hamburg are such an unlucky team for two seasons. They have been trying hard in the 2nd Bundesliga to promote to the Bundesliga for two seasons. In the first attempt in the previous season, they got really close to making it. They got an advantageous score in the first leg against Hertha Berlin but they messed it up in the second leg unfortunately. But they still maintained their ambition in this season as well. They barely missed the chance of promoting directly despite having a three-week win streak.

But this time they couldn't get over the Stuttgart obstacle. To tell the truth Stuttgart is a really serious opponent for them as I see them stronger than Hertha Berlin as for productivity. They just destroyed Hamburg in the first leg already and there is no turning back from this I think.

When unlock happens several years in a row it might not be unlock. Hamburg has had so many chances, they have had one of the top places in 2. Bundesliga for so long and then they gave it away again and again. They aren't unlucky, they are unable! The game against Stuttgart was lucky because it ended with only 3 goals difference. It could have also been a 5-0 or even 6-0. They also received a red card and weakened themselves even further. I think a few different results are possible for the second leg, but I don't see an overall result that would make Hamburg be promoted.

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Now Stuttgart seem to have re-locked the bundesliga for them. The score of 3-0 is quite big in terms of deficit in my opinion even though it is possible there are still some reversal conditions from Hamburg but to be honest I'm not too sure about that.
The conditions are now in Stuttgart's favor for their 2nd leg later and it looks like Hamburg will again and again have to dash their hopes in the bundesliga as they have to lose again in the play off phase for 2 seasons in a row.

Pretty big win by Stuttgart but still this is the bundesliga and you can never know what can happen. Germans are known for not giving up but still a big result and a big lost for Hamburger. They were a minut away from bundesliga and now they are far far away. It looks like they wont comeback to bundesliga yet again

The problem in this case for Hamburg is that they are the same as before and I am still very doubtful about a 3 goal deficit in the 2nd leg even if it is true that not giving up is a good thing for them.
They are currently able to make a comeback but still it won't be easy because if you want to qualify directly it means they have to score more than 3 goals and of course seeing the scheme they did in the first leg didn't go well it will certainly make us realize that it's not going to be easy.

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Leipzig was the team that beat Bayern to take it to last game, if it wasn't for that then Dortmund wouldn't even have a chance to win the title, Bayern would have simply be the champion anyway, Leipzig won and Dortmund got a small hope at least.

If a team is good enough to take out Bayern from the title leadership, then they are good enough to beat Frankfurt as well. I am fully expecting them to be winning the title and that should be a lot better, I know for a fact that it is not going to be easy, but at the very least we are going to end up with something a bit different, and that should be a bit better in the end and I could see it becoming an easy Leipzig win which would not be a good return, but you can do like 2.5+ over and it could be much better.

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