Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 1397.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on June 01, 2023, 02:21:10 PM

Quote from: Jackl87 on June 01, 2023, 01:43:31 PM

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

Now Stuttgart seem to have re-locked the bundesliga for them. The score of 3-0 is quite big in terms of deficit in my opinion even though it is possible there are still some reversal conditions from Hamburg but to be honest I'm not too sure about that.
The conditions are now in Stuttgart's favor for their 2nd leg later and it looks like Hamburg will again and again have to dash their hopes in the bundesliga as they have to lose again in the play off phase for 2 seasons in a row.

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Great news for RB Leipzig as they were able to convince Olmo of staying in Leipzig despite some very tempting offers from top clubs. I am mentioning this because he was offered high salaries as he is quite a strong offensive midfielder in the Bundesliga in my opinion and Leipzig said some time ago that they are not going to deviate from their salary policies within the team. They had a sort of upper limit, but is it even possible to stick to that when clubs like Barcelona knock on his door? Not that Barcelona would be the best of the best right now, but Olmo is Spanish and would have earned more in Barcelona for sure and he was raised in La Masia for 8 years. It is a positive surprise to see a Bundesliga club keep a player like him despite much bigger clubs knocking on his door.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on May 31, 2023, 04:46:53 PM

Lewandowski's departure from the Bundesliga has affected the league deeply as well. I mean especially the top scorers table. Because you know how dominant Lewandowski was when he was wearing Bayern Munich shirt. For example, he scored 35 goals in the 2021/2022 season and pulled away from his nearest competitor by 11 goals. But now we see nobody who was able to score a lot of goals in this season. There was a tight competition for being top scorer for sure but the player with the most goals scored only 16 goals.

I wonder whether we will see a special scorer like Lewandowski again in the near future. I had big expectations from Nkunku truthfully. But his injury caused him to miss 9 league matches which was really a big hindrance for him to score more goals.

If you look at the statistics of the Bundesliga before Lewandowski, you will see that the top scorers here have always been quite modest and practically no one (in modern history) has claimed the golden boot. Lewandowski was an exception due to his dominance plus Bayern's dominance, but now the years have passed and if you look at his results in La Liga (where usually the tops score a lot of goals) his results are also quite modest this season.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on May 31, 2023, 02:51:45 PM

This is Leipzig's second chance to win a title this season. The first one was the Super Cup match against Bayern Munich but they lost it by a huge score like 5-3. They had a quite good season in the Bundesliga as they made it to top 4 and secured their Champions League ticket in time. But I don't expect this to cause them to be complacent in the DFB Pokal finale of course. This is like the only place without Bayern Munich for Leipzig and Frankfurt both so they had better use this chance nicely.

These teams beat each other once in the Bundesliga this season. But here I'm going on with Leipzig win and I'll bet on it as well. Frankfurt aren't the kind of a team I like anymore. I really appreciated their high effort in the previous season due to winning the Europa League title. But now they are away from that look.

I couldn't agree more with you. Frankfurt seems like they have lost the touch and also probably the winning hunger. It is actually really hard to expect a win from them in this match. Especially when we know that Leipzig is currently performing well. They have had a good consistent performance in the Bundesliga. Leipzig has finished in the top 4 meaning that they will play in the Champions League competition. They would want to end things on a good note by winning this DFB Pokal trophy. But on the other hand, Frankfurt is not going to participate in any European competition in the next season. So they are going to be determined to win at least something from this season and this is the only chance they have left.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on June 01, 2023, 02:21:10 PM

Quote from: Jackl87 on June 01, 2023, 01:43:31 PM

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

Quick goal in the first minute is still the only goal that happened at this time. It's quite unfortunate when VAR saved the previous penalty in this case but indeed Stuttgart so far are still with a pretty good determination against Hamburg.
The first round of matches will soon be over but with Hamburg still unable to maximize opportunities and not free from the rhythm that Stuttgart is doing it looks like the first round will be won by Stuttgart in this case.
But indeed the conditions could still have changed for the second half. Hamburg doesn't want to lose for this leg match because of course even if they lose it's still possible to make a comeback in Leg 2 but still it's a bit of a loss.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on June 01, 2023, 01:43:31 PM

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

Thats how it is, VFB Stuttgart has better players and they are currently leading 1:0. It should have been 2:0, but Guirassy missed a penalty a few minutes ago, so that cant happen in such an important game. Today is game 1 of 2, but today it is the more important game, because in the second match they can be played extremely tactical. I would like to see Stuttgart in the first Bundesliga next season, i am not a fan of hamburg. And it is interesting that a player from Japan is the captain of a German team, I mean Wataru Endo - very good player.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on June 01, 2023, 01:25:33 PM

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.
Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.
Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

Yeah i totally agree. If i remember correctly, then there was no relegation games until like 10 years ago or so. Then those games were introduced and it was obvious that the only reason for that was to make a little more money with television rights and other stuff as you already said. I don't have the statistics in my head but i think that so far in most of the cases the team from the first Bundesliga was successful in those games and that is also making totally sense. They usually have the better squad.
The only things that is in favor of the of second Bundesliga is the fact that they are usually having a pretty good momentum because they have played a pretty good season so far.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on June 01, 2023, 12:38:44 PM

Quote from: Lafu on June 01, 2023, 09:44:01 AM

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

the time is not right . the match starts at 8:45 pm in stuttgart . the match will be shown live on free-tv SAT1 and livestram on ran.de .
both matches are completely sold out . i hope we see many nice goals and the better or luckier team will play in the 1.bundesliga next season .
so...66 minutes to go and the match starts Wink

Totally not a fan of relegation. I don't like HSV but I am always rooting for the lower league team in these events.
Relegation in my eyes is so unfair. A team that played shit the whole season can safe it in 2 games while a team that played good the whole season will get punished if they don't deliver in those 2 crucial games.

Also, higher league teams almost always have a bigger budget, that's what makes it even more unfair.

Now I think is the 15th season they are doing this nonsense. And why? So that they can make a little more money with 2 more televised games per league. Bravo.

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Quote from: bitgolden on June 01, 2023, 12:36:50 PM

Quote from: klidex on June 01, 2023, 05:51:34 AM

Actually Bayern Munich doesn't need a new coach but only needs to improve the performance of its players in the next season to be able to win the big league.
I'm not sure even if Tuchel leaves Bayern Munich it won't get better.
Because the problem here is with the Bayern Munich players who must be trained strongly and ready to face other strong clubs.
Changing trainers will only make things worse.

Tuchel will definitely be good without a doubt, people doubted him because the part where he was the manager didn't look all that great but the reality is that he is quite good manager without a doubt. I am sensing that he is going to build a roster that is much better and he will do as well as he could hope for.

I know that people are shocked that he almost lost the title and that is why they think he is not that great but I think he is going to be amazing. Just give him some time, if they give him some time, he is going to show the world he could continue the dominating Bayern team once again. Obviously that's bad for us football fans, because it will be another boring easy Bayern domination without much trouble at all and should be consider.

If in the last game yesterday Dortmund won and Bayern Munich failed to win the Bundesliga this season, surely Tuchel would become the target of anger by the fans. But fortunately, the goddess of fortune still sided with Tuchel's good fortune and led Bayern Munich to win this season. I agree with you that Tuchel is indeed a very good coach and maybe the short time he spent adapting to the Bayern Munich squad was very reasonable. Maybe we will see how good he is in managing the Bayern Munich squad next season and I will never doubt it.

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Quote from: Lafu on June 01, 2023, 09:44:01 AM

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

the time is not right . the match starts at 8:45 pm in stuttgart . the match will be shown live on free-tv SAT1 and livestram on ran.de .
both matches are completely sold out . i hope we see many nice goals and the better or luckier team will play in the 1.bundesliga next season .
so...66 minutes to go and the match starts Wink

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Quote from: klidex on June 01, 2023, 05:51:34 AM

Actually Bayern Munich doesn't need a new coach but only needs to improve the performance of its players in the next season to be able to win the big league.
I'm not sure even if Tuchel leaves Bayern Munich it won't get better.
Because the problem here is with the Bayern Munich players who must be trained strongly and ready to face other strong clubs.
Changing trainers will only make things worse.

Tuchel will definitely be good without a doubt, people doubted him because the part where he was the manager didn't look all that great but the reality is that he is quite good manager without a doubt. I am sensing that he is going to build a roster that is much better and he will do as well as he could hope for.

I know that people are shocked that he almost lost the title and that is why they think he is not that great but I think he is going to be amazing. Just give him some time, if they give him some time, he is going to show the world he could continue the dominating Bayern team once again. Obviously that's bad for us football fans, because it will be another boring easy Bayern domination without much trouble at all and should be consider.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 01, 2023, 11:03:27 AM

Despite losing the Bundesliga title to their number one rival Bayern Munich in the last moment, Dortmund are still about to achieve one of their biggest targets. It is to make a big profit in transfers. Even only selling Bellingham would make them be in a huge level of profit. Because Real Madrid are expected to pay a transfer fee which is worth not less than his market price.

His current market price is €120m by the way. When he was transferred from Birmingham first his market value was €27m. Just look at how much he has increased his value! It must be feeling sad for their fans to be about to lose their most important player but I don't think the board would be that sad.

In the end they would be happy as long as they sell this kind of talented players for a huge sum of money. They can fill his place with another promising young player and move on.

As we know, since the beginning Dortmund did not target to compete for the Bundesliga trophy. but to be more precise, they still exist in the top four of the Bundesliga, while still participating in the Champions League competition. it's just that since they have the opportunity to win the Bundesliga trophy, Dormund fought hard to make it happen. it's a shame, Edin Terzic's squad missed the opportunities that were in front of their eyes. in the end, Bayern Munich still dominated this competition.

On the other hand, Dortmund's business is running as smoothly as in previous seasons. yes, Dortmund is a well-known club that always prints talented players. now, Dormund will get a big profit just by releasing Bellingham to Madrid. with only one player, Dortmund has a higher profit than previous seasons. "correct me if I'm wrong".
Well, several other player names, have been rumored with several big clubs and one of them is Youssoufa Moukoko. no exception, if anyone is interested it looks like Dortmund will let him go. it could be, Adeyemi will also leave if there is a club that is interested in him. the point is, even though Dortmund didn't win a trophy. they have remained hugely advantaged this season.

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Quote from: hahay on June 01, 2023, 12:05:26 PM

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So, playing at home Stuttgart should be able to make the most of it, because this is a big chance for Stuttgart to be able to return to playing in the Bundesliga next season.

Fingers crossed that its a good sign they playing at home and score some Goals.

Yes, it doesn't matter what the results in the second leg will be like, because Stuttgart as a team that usually plays in the Bundseliga or the highest caste in the German league is a must for Stuttgart to be able to play better than Hamburger SV. Because of course, if Stuttgart can win this first leg and maybe with a good score too, like for example having a two goal difference. So of course, the victory in the first leg will be very good capital, and this result will certainly have a good impact on Stuttgart for the second leg match later.

Stuttgart can take advantage of this home game for them to win the game with a few goals. if they can win in the first leg, they can be calmer in the second leg, because they only need a draw to be sure to return to playing in the Bundesliga next season. In the second leg they can focus on defensive play. But if the visitors can at least hold on to a draw then Stuttgart's task will be even more difficult for the second leg. A scheme like this will always be created when the two clubs play 2 matches, home and away.
In less than 2 hours, we will see the struggles of the two clubs in the play-off round.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 01, 2023, 11:03:27 AM

Despite losing the Bundesliga title to their number one rival Bayern Munich in the last moment, Dortmund are still about to achieve one of their biggest targets. It is to make a big profit in transfers. Even only selling Bellingham would make them be in a huge level of profit. Because Real Madrid are expected to pay a transfer fee which is worth not less than his market price.

His current market price is €120m by the way. When he was transferred from Birmingham first his market value was €27m. Just look at how much he has increased his value! It must be feeling sad for their fans to be about to lose their most important player but I don't think the board would be that sad.

In the end they would be happy as long as they sell this kind of talented players for a huge sum of money. They can fill his place with another promising young player and move on.

Thats a huge profit for Dortmund board but like you said the fans are actually going to miss this talent. But over the years this Dortmund have been known for breeding such young talents and it has been known for this particular prominent position of a striker, they have made and tutors some world class strikers for example is the number one strikers currently now in the football world which is Earling Harland. Dortmund really disappointed in their last game of the season and even this deal doesn't cover for the FCK up that they attain on their last season campaign.

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Quote from: Lafu on June 01, 2023, 10:01:45 AM

Quote from: hahay on June 01, 2023, 09:57:27 AM

So, playing at home Stuttgart should be able to make the most of it, because this is a big chance for Stuttgart to be able to return to playing in the Bundesliga next season.

Fingers crossed that its a good sign they playing at home and score some Goals.

Yes, it doesn't matter what the results in the second leg will be like, because Stuttgart as a team that usually plays in the Bundseliga or the highest caste in the German league is a must for Stuttgart to be able to play better than Hamburger SV. Because of course, if Stuttgart can win this first leg and maybe with a good score too, like for example having a two goal difference. So of course, the victory in the first leg will be very good capital, and this result will certainly have a good impact on Stuttgart for the second leg match later.

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Quote from: snipie on June 01, 2023, 10:42:42 AM

Stuttgart will most likely win the game since they are better and playing home. Bookies are backing them with 1.6 odds for Stuttgart victory and 5.2 on Hamburg one.
Hamburg have one of the best attack line in 2.Bundesliga but their defence isn't that top. They were just one point from promoting directly to 1.Bundesliga but they have now to face Stuttgart to pass.

That makes sense. Stuttgart's performance at the end of season was not so bad at all. it's caused by it was still able getting draw against some strong clubs in bundesliga. hamburg will not become a tough game for stutgart. I hope that stuttgart will still play in bundesliga next season.
Stuttgart was able leaving from the relegation zone if it was not getting draw against hoffenheim.

Stuttgart may be dominating the match against hamburg. Hamburg's performance in bundesliga 2 was not so good. Picking stuttgart seems the right choice for now.

It has better chance to win compared with hamburg.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 01, 2023, 11:03:27 AM

Despite losing the Bundesliga title to their number one rival Bayern Munich in the last moment, Dortmund are still about to achieve one of their biggest targets. It is to make a big profit in transfers. Even only selling Bellingham would make them be in a huge level of profit. Because Real Madrid are expected to pay a transfer fee which is worth not less than his market price.

His current market price is €120m by the way. When he was transferred from Birmingham first his market value was €27m. Just look at how much he has increased his value! It must be feeling sad for their fans to be about to lose their most important player but I don't think the board would be that sad.

In the end they would be happy as long as they sell this kind of talented players for a huge sum of money. They can fill his place with another promising young player and move on.

I wouldn't really call that a target. It is their second best choice. If they can't keep Bellingham and that is what they usually wanted, the next step must be to get as much money for him as possible. If it was possible otherwise, Dortmund would keep most of their players that they had to sell in the past. Dortmund isn't in a situation where they can just keep a player for another season and then not get any money from a transfer. It would be different if they also won the Bundesliga frequently and would have a chance in the Champions League. Then players would automatically like to stay with them, but Bellingham has lots of reasons to leave the club if he gets the right offer.

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Quote from: Lafu on June 01, 2023, 09:44:01 AM

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

Stuttgart is a really tought team that improved a lot recently playing at home will give them a huge advantage but their opponent will not be an easy one since hamburger team has been so close to getting promoted in the last five seasons, am sure they will put their best effort in these coming games so i think if hamburger team manage atleast a draw today their chances at qualifying will be big.

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Despite losing the Bundesliga title to their number one rival Bayern Munich in the last moment, Dortmund are still about to achieve one of their biggest targets. It is to make a big profit in transfers. Even only selling Bellingham would make them be in a huge level of profit. Because Real Madrid are expected to pay a transfer fee which is worth not less than his market price.

His current market price is €120m by the way. When he was transferred from Birmingham first his market value was €27m. Just look at how much he has increased his value! It must be feeling sad for their fans to be about to lose their most important player but I don't think the board would be that sad.

In the end they would be happy as long as they sell this kind of talented players for a huge sum of money. They can fill his place with another promising young player and move on.

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Quote from: terrorJR on June 01, 2023, 09:53:07 AM

Quote from: Lafu on June 01, 2023, 09:44:01 AM

Today in the vening the first relegation match is starting between Stuttgart and Hamburg at 20:25 European Time.
Suttgart playes at home and i hope that this helps them to win there game against Hamburg.
On the 5. June 2023 at the same time , there will be the next game in Hamburg.

This is the second consecutive play off for hamburg to enter the Bundesliga after last season was also like this.
The future is in Stuttgart's hands now whether they will change caste or still be in the top competition in the German league.
on the other hand, it's interesting now whether their (hamburg) bad luck for the play-offs will happen again this season or indeed they can correct their mistakes last season and this season can take advantage of the play-offs to be better than before.

yep right. if you look at Stuttgart's struggles from the start of the season to the end, it should be very easy to get more aggregate points when playing at home because with this Stuttgart can still have hope to continue in the next bundesliga season. but if Stuttgart in the first leg of the Bundesliga Playoff cannot take advantage of today's match, I will be very disappointed if Stuttgart cannot continue its struggle in the Bundesliga next season.
even though I don't know Hamburg's performance for sure but I hope Stuttgart can beat it in the first and second leg.

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