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Dortmund secured the victory in a remarkable manner. They defeated the opposition team 6-0 by showing their maximum skill and power. This match was secured by a huge margin, again setting up a great battle with Bayern Munich for the top spot in the points table.

With the victory Dortmund got, they are still in second place with a one point difference, which makes Dortmund even more enthusiastic about trying to win first place by winning the match on May 13 against Mönchengladbach. Dortmund must win and has the potential to take first place. Hopefully, just like yesterday's game, Dortmund managed to score a lot of goals.

Bayern Munich's match will be as important as Borussia Dortmund's match. I think Borussia will play a very difficult match against Mönchengladbach. Bayern will be more comfortable. They will host Schalke, who had a difficult time in the league at home. Bayern will be undefeated this week as well. Still the strongest candidate for the championship is the Bavarian team.

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I know they had a perfect performance in the previous week and they won the game with an amazing result against Wolfsburg, and Wolfsburg is not a weak team but in the end, they got three points from this game while if they had this performance in the previous week against other teams they could be on top of the table instead of Bayern Munich, I think the only hope for Dortmound is to wait and hope for Bayern Munich to lose some points.

Dortmund produces a talented player every year and generates incredible sales revenue. In fact, the team has been working in this format for a long time. They don't have much presence in places like the champions league because that's not what they're aiming for. Their goal is to generate huge income from transfers. Their main achievement is, how do they find these football players? Really incredible job.
What they have to do next is wait for Bayern to lose points. Perhaps one of the hardest things for a team is waiting for Bayern to lose points.
They won against Wolfsburg with a very good score. In fact, they were good throughout the season, but it is unfortunate that they fell behind Bayern. In the remaining weeks, nothing is certain. Football can surprise us.

Dortmund still has a chance to win the title. for that to happen, Bayern Munich first has to lose! It still won't matter if Bayern Munich and Dortmund finish on the same points because Dortmund is behind on goal difference. it's a big goal difference! Dortmund has to win all the rest and Bayern Munich has to lose one. Dortmund can't win the title any other way. Definitely, football can surprise us!

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Quote from: keyscore44 on May 08, 2023, 12:44:22 AM

Dortmund secured the victory in a remarkable manner. They defeated the opposition team 6-0 by showing their maximum skill and power. This match was secured by a huge margin, again setting up a great battle with Bayern Munich for the top spot in the points table.

With the victory Dortmund got, they are still in second place with a one point difference, which makes Dortmund even more enthusiastic about trying to win first place by winning the match on May 13 against Mönchengladbach. Dortmund must win and has the potential to take first place. Hopefully, just like yesterday's game, Dortmund managed to score a lot of goals.

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It's clear that a huge advantage has been lost, but it's not over yet. The teams have three more games to play. Dortmund still has a chance, considering that Bayern will play with Leipzig and Dortmund will only play with mid-tier teams. What they have to do to use it is to win all 3 games and wait for Bayern to lose points. The sensational result of 6-0 today also shows that Dortmund is still in this race psychologically. Last week's Bochum match draw was very hurtful for them, but there is still hope.

The 6-0 doesn't change that much I think. If it was about the goal difference in the end then yes, but Dortmund is too far behind to make that count eventually. Yes psychologically that was a good counter to Bayern's win yesterday, but Dortmund can play one game like this one against Wolfsburg and the next one they are catastrophic and nobody knows what's wrong with them. When I saw the result against Wolfsburg, I thought that really they could have done it this season, but it is not about the games when they score 4 or 5 or even goals, it is about the games when they lose points against weak opponents. Too bad.

After Bayern Munich won their yesterday's match against Werder Bremen the pressure was shifted to Borussia Dortmund to win their own match or risk losing in the Bundesliga title pursuit to Bayern Munich and they won their own match today in fascinating fashion.

That huge defeat will somehow send a strong message to anyone who must have taught they won't fight for the title till the last day of the season and to also remind Bayern Munich that they're not gonna give up for the pursuit of the title anything soon.

I did certainly expect them to fight hard, not least because they played at home and the fans are expecting nothing less from them than they have shown. If they didn't win that game against Wolfsburg, I would clearly expect some serious discussions about players and the manager as well. This win was a must and that's it.

The signal to Bayern, yes perhaps, but Bayern is busy with themselves. It is not like they were sitting on the couch hoping for Dortmund to fail against Wolfsburg at home. They assumed that this fight will go on after this weekend. Bayern needs full points and Dortmund does, that is what both have set as their goals now.

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Quote from: Masplanc on May 08, 2023, 03:07:31 PM

For the fact that the match between Bayern Munich and Schalke will be taking place in the home of Bayern Munich, I don't think Schalke will succed in winning the game against Bayern Munich. This a chance for Bayern Munich to make full point out from this game to make sure they win Bundesliga league.

I guess we will not see on this game that Bayern Munich will be getting already there the Title as they are only 1 point in front of Dortmund.
And they havnt won this game for now , for sure on the paper and from the players they have , they should win that game against Schalke.
Schalke is always good for making it hard to play against them and they need the points as well.

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Quote from: Masplanc on May 08, 2023, 03:07:31 PM

For the fact that the match between Bayern Munich and Schalke will be taking place in the home of Bayern Munich, I don't think Schalke will succed in winning the game against Bayern Munich. This a chance for Bayern Munich to make full point out from this game to make sure they win Bundesliga league.

on paper Bayern munich has everything to win this match because they will be playing at home and their are targeting victory in order to strengthen their ranking from the pressure of dortmund in second place. Apart from that, the statistics for the meeting between the two were also dominated by Bayern Munich's victory, so there is no doubt that they will be able to win the match against Schalke.

But from here I see the remaining matches this season which leaves 3 more matches, of course Bayern will work hard enough to be able to win all the remaining matches. schalke is also in quite an impressive state in the last two matches, they worked quite well in the previous two matches which can be a big capital for them when they face bayern munich.

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adeyami and bellingham managed to score 2 goals each and complete dortmund's victory to 6-0. This big result made Dortmund continue to stick to Bayern with only 1 point difference. looks like it will be difficult for bayern away from dortmund.

Indeed it was a very impressive victory because 6 goals without conceding from a team ranked in the top 10 is an impressive result, but it looks like Dortmund will only stick with Bayern Munich until the end of the season because maybe Munich will no longer make the mistake of throwing opportunities away, especially this week they will only face Schalke, which although Schalke is improving things and it is quite successful with two consecutive wins will face a difficult away game at the Allianz stadium which all season in league matches Bayern Munich have not lost when playing as the home team, so Schalke will be facing a match of high difficulty, this match will be dominated by Munich and if they can capitalize on their chances well then they will score to keep their first position safe until the end of the season, and Dortmund will still be in second place that is also a result because they also did not keep the good opportunities that existed so they could be at the top.

I think so too, the competition between Bayern and Dortmund for the top position in the Bundesliga is quite fierce but until the end of the season, the only chance to win the Bundesliga trophy is Bayern (provided that Bayern must win all the matches they will face onwards). Next week, when facing Schalke, Bayern must be able to win big because the match will take place at Bayern's home.

For the fact that the match between Bayern Munich and Schalke will be taking place in the home of Bayern Munich, I don't think Schalke will succed in winning the game against Bayern Munich. This a chance for Bayern Munich to make full point out from this game to make sure they win Bundesliga league.

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Quote from: snipie on May 08, 2023, 02:41:48 PM

Schalke need the victory to stay away from the relegation zone and Bayern Munich need it to stay above of Dortmund. We will see how it will end Wink

yes, both teams need victory points. this is important for Schalke because they certainly want to stay in the Bundesliga next season. now the competition at the top of the standings and the bottom of the standings is also exciting. although it took a very hard effort from Schalke to beat Munich. but they still have that possibility, even if they have to draw, that will be an advantage for Schalke as well.
Dortmund can also be held to a draw, and Munich may also lose their focus.

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Dortmund are still trying to maintain their title chance but I don't know. It would have been really great for them to win the Bundesliga title before losing Bellingham to Bayern Munich. This means another power loss for the team after Haaland's departure. Actually despite Haaland's leaving the team this season has been good for Dortmund anyway. But I don't know if we can see the same effort next season.

They will need to fill Bellingham's place with another skilled youngster. This is what they do the best in the end so they must have someone in their mind to help him shine here also.

Whether Dortmund become the champions or not they are still going to be rich after selling Bellingham to Real Madrid for a lot of money.

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I don't think it is all about adaptation, but about the quality and balance of the Bayern Munich squad. A lot of people have been saying that this is the best team they ever had, but I never understood why they are saying that. What about the team when Ribery and Robben played on the wings, Lewandwoski in the center, Neuer was in his prime and Lahm also was still playing? Was that team any worse? Definitely not in my opinion and all those players have been pretty reliable if they were healthy. Robben was injured too often, but when he played he was always dangerous. Sané will never replace Robben. Gnabry will never replace Ribery and no defender will ever replace Lahm.

Tuchel overestimates the quality of that team. If they don't add some high quality players, they will have problems again next season.

I'm not going to try to compare with their squad when some of the players you mentioned are still in their squad. However, in my opinion, comparing between the squad before and now, of course, we will always find differences, whether in the way they play or the coach's strategy implemented, because their coach is also not the same as when the players were at Bayren Munich.
The coach's assessment will also differ from their point of view, so it's only natural that their opinion will differ from our opinion of their squad.

Actually, the problem at Bayern Munich is only in the coach and the players themselves.
Both parties should have found a way to get better in consistently working together between players and performance strategies must always be considered.
There are lots of cases of decreased performance and some of them blame the coach and some blame the players.
But I just always hope that Bayern Munich will recover soon like other clubs that have a good future.

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Quote from: Sirait on May 08, 2023, 02:23:29 PM

I think so too, the competition between Bayern and Dortmund for the top position in the Bundesliga is quite fierce but until the end of the season, the only chance to win the Bundesliga trophy is Bayern (provided that Bayern must win all the matches they will face onwards). Next week, when facing Schalke, Bayern must be able to win big because the match will take place at Bayern's home.

Lately Schalke are always trashed by Bayern Munich with a high score. I remember the 8 goals in the beginning of the season before the previous one and 4 goals scored in another match. It will be quite surprising and evil if Schalke could be the cause of Bayern losing the title. I don't expect that to happen.
Schalke need the victory to stay away from the relegation zone and Bayern Munich need it to stay above of Dortmund. We will see how it will end Wink

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adeyami and bellingham managed to score 2 goals each and complete dortmund's victory to 6-0. This big result made Dortmund continue to stick to Bayern with only 1 point difference. looks like it will be difficult for bayern away from dortmund.

Indeed it was a very impressive victory because 6 goals without conceding from a team ranked in the top 10 is an impressive result, but it looks like Dortmund will only stick with Bayern Munich until the end of the season because maybe Munich will no longer make the mistake of throwing opportunities away, especially this week they will only face Schalke, which although Schalke is improving things and it is quite successful with two consecutive wins will face a difficult away game at the Allianz stadium which all season in league matches Bayern Munich have not lost when playing as the home team, so Schalke will be facing a match of high difficulty, this match will be dominated by Munich and if they can capitalize on their chances well then they will score to keep their first position safe until the end of the season, and Dortmund will still be in second place that is also a result because they also did not keep the good opportunities that existed so they could be at the top.

I think so too, the competition between Bayern and Dortmund for the top position in the Bundesliga is quite fierce but until the end of the season, the only chance to win the Bundesliga trophy is Bayern (provided that Bayern must win all the matches they will face onwards). Next week, when facing Schalke, Bayern must be able to win big because the match will take place at Bayern's home.

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Borussia Dortmund managed to play very well in this match, they really took every opportunity they got and converted it into a goal, and it was an absolute win for them. Their young players can show extraordinary abilities, including Jude Bellingham who is now in the spotlight because many teams want to sign him for next season. There is still a chance for them in this Bundesliga.

Not only Bellingham, but Adeyemi also successfully contributed in the same way in this match and it seems that it is not only Bellingham who will leave Dortmund later, but of course there will also be several European teams who will be interested in recruiting Adeyemi with such extraordinary performance.

Dortmund continues to chase Bayern Munich in the standings and they will not give up because there is still time to close this season with good results, especially if winning the Bundesliga title is a dream that has been awaited for so long after the last time being the Bundesliga champion in the 2011/2012 season and it's been almost 10 years and Dortmund haven't won this title again.

I do believe that there is an all around team success here, sure some players might be better than the others but as a team they started to play better. They improved their defense a lot compared to previous seasons and even though their offense took a huge hit after Haaland left, the amount of difference between how less wonderful their offense got, was covered by their amazing defensive improvement, so the difference became lesser and they are even better without him because how well their team overall got. If they had the other 10 and the manager with Haaland, they would have been champions already this season.

I think they still do have a chance, they just need to focus on making bigger and better results until the season just like this game, and they should be getting it, Bayern will probably lose points somewhere.

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Yep. We can say that Bayern became infected with instability from Dortmund. Last season, everyone laughed at Arsenal, Dortmund, United and some other teams that showed a very convincing game and then lost points out of the blue in the next game. Bayern got the same disease this season. In the next round they play against a clear outsider (even if it shows excellent results in the fight for survival), but even in such a game you cannot be sure that Bayern will win. In addition, the coefficient for the victory of Bavaria is simply ridiculous - 1.11

Bayern Munich and Dortmund have experienced the same situation this season, because both of them have had good results in successive ways but before and after consistent results, Bayern Munich and Dortmund have experienced unstable performance again. Therefore, it is not surprising that at this moment Bayern Munich and Dortmund only have a gap of 1 point.

Also, even though in the next match Dortmund looks to have quite a difficult opponent, but that doesn't mean Dortmund will lose. Likewise about Bayern Munich, getting opponents who look weaker, but that's not a guarantee for Bayern Munich to win easily. Because at moments like that sometimes the favorite teams can get bad results, maybe because the pressure is too great to make them lose concentration.

Bayern and Dortmund have completely different results before and after the World Cup. After the World Cup, Borussia has only one defeat and three draws, the rest are victories. Bayern have 3 losses and 4 draws. Huge difference. Obviously, since the difference between them is only one point in the first half, Bayern was good, as now Borussia is good. And yes, if you look at this trend, then we can assume that Dortmund has great chances, much more than the bookmakers suggest.

The odds of Borussia Dortmund are also low for me. Borussia Dortmund have been playing very well lately. Penalties were not awarded in one of the matches in which they were tied. If Dortmund had scored that penalty, maybe they would still be in the lead, 2 points ahead of Bayern Munich. Unfortunately, such referee decisions also affect the league's position.

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It may happen and at the same time not. Dortmund as it stand is quite convincing in their ball play. Their game yesterday seems like they are not going to lose soon, but I personal don't trust Bayern Munich even after seeing their performance yesterday cuz some months ago they were in the same strength then boom! everything changed and they started losing. Just like Bayren Munich, No one can tell how Dortmund next match will be until it is played.

Yep. We can say that Bayern became infected with instability from Dortmund. Last season, everyone laughed at Arsenal, Dortmund, United and some other teams that showed a very convincing game and then lost points out of the blue in the next game. Bayern got the same disease this season. In the next round they play against a clear outsider (even if it shows excellent results in the fight for survival), but even in such a game you cannot be sure that Bayern will win. In addition, the coefficient for the victory of Bavaria is simply ridiculous - 1.11

Bayern Munich have had a really bad performance this season, but there are several reasons. The most important and perhaps the first of these is undoubtedly Lewandowski's transfer to Barceona, followed by Neuer's unfortunate injury, and finally their firing of Nagelsmann before their crucial matches in the champions league and bundesliga. Some problems were not events under their control, but they created some problems themselves and opened the door to this critical process. Despite all this, I think they will be champions. Even when Borussia Dortmund took advantage last week, I predicted in that direction.

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There is a really great competition for top four among Leipzig, Union Berlin and Freiburg right now. The previous week was in favour of Leipzig a lot. They had a tough away game against Freiburg but they still won the game nicely. Union Berlin's losing to Augsburg made things easier for Leipzig to reach the third position all of a sudden. But the rivalry is still fired up very much.

There is another important game for top four next week which is between Union Berlin and Freiburg this time. Leipzig can turn this into an advantage by beating Bremen and I think Leipzig will finish at the 3rd position as well.

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Quote from: hahay on May 08, 2023, 09:58:52 AM

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Yep. We can say that Bayern became infected with instability from Dortmund. Last season, everyone laughed at Arsenal, Dortmund, United and some other teams that showed a very convincing game and then lost points out of the blue in the next game. Bayern got the same disease this season. In the next round they play against a clear outsider (even if it shows excellent results in the fight for survival), but even in such a game you cannot be sure that Bayern will win. In addition, the coefficient for the victory of Bavaria is simply ridiculous - 1.11

Bayern Munich and Dortmund have experienced the same situation this season, because both of them have had good results in successive ways but before and after consistent results, Bayern Munich and Dortmund have experienced unstable performance again. Therefore, it is not surprising that at this moment Bayern Munich and Dortmund only have a gap of 1 point.

Also, even though in the next match Dortmund looks to have quite a difficult opponent, but that doesn't mean Dortmund will lose. Likewise about Bayern Munich, getting opponents who look weaker, but that's not a guarantee for Bayern Munich to win easily. Because at moments like that sometimes the favorite teams can get bad results, maybe because the pressure is too great to make them lose concentration.

Bayern and Dortmund have completely different results before and after the World Cup. After the World Cup, Borussia has only one defeat and three draws, the rest are victories. Bayern have 3 losses and 4 draws. Huge difference. Obviously, since the difference between them is only one point in the first half, Bayern was good, as now Borussia is good. And yes, if you look at this trend, then we can assume that Dortmund has great chances, much more than the bookmakers suggest.

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Quote from: shogun47 on May 08, 2023, 11:34:55 AM

I don't think it is all about adaptation, but about the quality and balance of the Bayern Munich squad. A lot of people have been saying that this is the best team they ever had, but I never understood why they are saying that. What about the team when Ribery and Robben played on the wings, Lewandwoski in the center, Neuer was in his prime and Lahm also was still playing? Was that team any worse? Definitely not in my opinion and all those players have been pretty reliable if they were healthy. Robben was injured too often, but when he played he was always dangerous. Sané will never replace Robben. Gnabry will never replace Ribery and no defender will ever replace Lahm.

Tuchel overestimates the quality of that team. If they don't add some high quality players, they will have problems again next season.

I'm not going to try to compare with their squad when some of the players you mentioned are still in their squad. However, in my opinion, comparing between the squad before and now, of course, we will always find differences, whether in the way they play or the coach's strategy implemented, because their coach is also not the same as when the players were at Bayren Munich.
The coach's assessment will also differ from their point of view, so it's only natural that their opinion will differ from our opinion of their squad.

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Quote from: Alanaz on May 08, 2023, 11:34:06 AM

Competition to remain in the Bundesliga is still very attractive at this time. The teams are racing to survive and ensure they will stay in the Bundesliga for the next season. Schalke is one of the teams that is struggling for that. This week they managed to get out of the red zone by being in 17th place in the standings. Their chances of remaining in the Bundesliga are great, provided they always have to get maximum points.

Schalke is still not safe because this week they will face Munich, of course that is a tough job, especially with the remaining 3 matches in this season, there are 2 matches that I think are tough for Schalke like Munich and Leipzig because of course it is difficult to get full points unless playing with a score draw.

Bochum and VFB also have a very close point difference with Schalke so if Schalke loses points from all their remaining games then they will go back into the relegation zone. the three clubs are competing with each other to get out of the relegation zone, but it is difficult to predict who will escape from the relegation zone, if you look at Schalke, they have the potential to escape from there.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 08, 2023, 04:46:21 AM

Yup! Dortmund really came out there and did a great job and they didn't underestimate Wolfsburg because they know that Wolfsburg can surely surprise them, and they have seen in the past what Wolfsburg can do, and they surely know what Wolfsburg is up to they are eager in landing on the Europa League Qualifiers, that I think another thing and surely has some exciting match aswell, but they need to win at least 2 games because Leverkusen has 48 points to their 46 points,

I was not really sure how that game between Dortmund and Wolfsburg will be end , as the last time both teams have meet Wolfsburg got the win.
Wolfsburg is always good for a surprise specialy when they playing against the big teams.
About the matches left for both teams Dortmund and Bayern Munich i hope that Bayern Munich will lose against Leipzig or at least make a draw.
For sure at the same time Dortmund has to win there games.

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