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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 20, 2022, 02:07:14 PM

Dortmund more prefer take care with profit and business and I don't think they haven't with financial stable, actually every season Dortmund get benefit by selling their star player and every season always have new star player to sell with expensive transfer values.

Dortmund's goal is not to win the title. They only want to do business. They will form teams with young players, and gradually develop these players into experienced ones. And by selling these players they will earn a lot of money. If they had played for the Bundesliga title instead of just making money, I believe Dortmund would have been able to break Bayern Munich's dominance. Dortmund has this capability. We all want to see new champions in the Bundesliga. We are tired of watching Bayern Munich's dominance for so long.

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Quote from: Sirait on November 20, 2022, 01:31:27 PM

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Bayern Munich is more financially stable than every other club in the Bundesliga. In the past year, in so many years they have been the people winning the Bundesliga title and getting the large amount of money, they also sign players make money from sales of jessey and they have numerous ways to make money including viewing rites.
When they continue to dominate the Bundesliga we will understand why, Dortmund in the other hand is a club that is supposed to compete with Bayern Munich but it is quite unfortunate that they sell all their star players every year and they don't replace them with other quality ones.

from here we can see which teams really want to be champions and which don't, Bayern uses the money they get from wins and sponsors to strengthen the squad and also the team's finances while Dortmund does not do that, Dortmund sells their good players to strengthen the team's finances but not strengthen their squad. in the bundesliga no team will be able to match bayern, they are the real champions.

Actually I'm pretty sure everyone wants to be a champion if you say about it but sometimes this desire is difficult to carry out when their resources are inadequate.
For Dortmund they don't want to gamble in the season because they will definitely need a lot of money if they want to win the Bundesliga because they have to change the players they currently have so I think Dortmund have to gamble with those who are not sure whether they will win or not, they choose are doing something else by printing their young players to advantage of course and have been comfortably in 2nd place for the last couple of seasons.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 20, 2022, 12:10:20 PM

Bayern Munich is more financially stable than every other club in the Bundesliga. In the past year, in so many years they have been the people winning the Bundesliga title and getting the large amount of money, they also sign players make money from sales of jessey and they have numerous ways to make money including viewing rites.
When they continue to dominate the Bundesliga we will understand why, Dortmund in the other hand is a club that is supposed to compete with Bayern Munich but it is quite unfortunate that they sell all their star players every year and they don't replace them with other quality ones.

All bundesliga team have stable financial but Bayern Munich have dominance with better financial condition than other team, I think this reason with Bayern dominance at every season until ten years. Never faced any problem yet actually with financial when signing new player how much transfer price have to pay. Actually Bayern Munich not ever earn income from transfer player except this season with Robert Lewandowski, almost on every season have to pay other team to signing several player.

Dortmund more prefer take care with profit and business and I don't think they haven't with financial stable, actually every season Dortmund get benefit by selling their star player and every season always have new star player to sell with expensive transfer values.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 20, 2022, 12:10:20 PM

Bayern Munich is more financially stable than every other club in the Bundesliga. In the past year, in so many years they have been the people winning the Bundesliga title and getting the large amount of money, they also sign players make money from sales of jessey and they have numerous ways to make money including viewing rites.
When they continue to dominate the Bundesliga we will understand why, Dortmund in the other hand is a club that is supposed to compete with Bayern Munich but it is quite unfortunate that they sell all their star players every year and they don't replace them with other quality ones.

from here we can see which teams really want to be champions and which don't, Bayern uses the money they get from wins and sponsors to strengthen the squad and also the team's finances while Dortmund does not do that, Dortmund sells their good players to strengthen the team's finances but not strengthen their squad. in the bundesliga no team will be able to match bayern, they are the real champions.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 02:24:49 AM

Mane was very unlucky, he didn't have so many long-term injuries at Liverpool and when it was expected that playing in the Bundesliga where apparently is not as aggressive as in the Premier League he would stay without injuries for a long time, I was wrong, he was unlucky to have prolonged injury. bayern will have no other choice, they will have to look for another good player who scores goals, i think bayer should bring Harry Kane from tottenham, he is a great player who would no doubt score a lot of goals for bayern

Mane injury news was kinda sad especially ahead of WC. I also haven't seen him get that much injured at Liverpool. The longest he was sidelined was for 87 days according to : https://www.transfermarkt.com/sadio-mane/verletzungen/spieler/200512 in 2016-17 season (Liverpool).

It wouldn't be easy for Bayern to bring Kane from Spurs. He is indespensable member of the squad currently and as long as he is considered that inside Spurs, I don't think they are gonna accept any offers for Kane. I think Kane also wants to stay at Spurs. There is always discussion about his achievements with the club but I think he still believes he can still get something at Spurs.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 20, 2022, 06:12:22 AM

Real Madrid has eclipsed everyone and in a sense it is a grief for everyone else because such achievements are difficult to repeat and any win will be compared with Real Madrid.

But my point was that Bayern are too strong, not just by the standards of the Bundesliga, but by the standards of all European championships, so they have such results in the Bundesliga. If suddenly Bayern becomes weaker, then in the Bundesliga there will be someone to challenge the first place of Bayern. But these potential competitors should not wait for the recession of Bavaria, but should reach the top European level.

Real Madrid is "better" than other teams but Bayern is good in the league format, and UCL will be a league format not too long from now, in a few years we are not going to see groups, we are going to see one big league, and that’s when Bayern could actually turn it on and could make a big difference. When it's win or go home games Bayern is not as good as others, but when it is group, they are as good as any team could be.

I feel like Bayern could stay the most dominant team in Bundesliga for at least another 10 years because they are making those smart young player decisions already and that will give them a long life of being dominant, considering all the players under 25 and already playing well.

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Xabi Alonso has started to do a good job with Bayer Leverkusen recently. They won their last three league games and this streak carried them to the 12th position in the standings. Xabi Alonso doesn't have much of a manager career so far but it can be a really good start for him if he manages to have a good season here. After managing Real Sociedad B this is a really big step forward for him. Leverkusen are normally one of the strong teams of this league.

They are just struggling this season but they can leave these days behind by keeping a good form.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 19, 2022, 11:54:56 AM

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Bayern Munich is just farming Bundesliga trophies. I think they have enough money to buy good players. So, I don’t think they are gonna be worsened anytime soon. On the other hand, I also don’t think that any other team is suddenly going to be so big that they will compete against Bayern Munich at the same level, let alone surpass them. Bayern Munich is going to be the winner of the Bundesliga in the season as well. And I don’t think this is going to change for at least three seasons to come.

Well, pretty much most here in the thread are thinking that Bayern Munich is inevitably to take the championship again, but for me, It is too early to conclude, there are still games to play for Bayern Munich they need to make a proper lead on points to really say that they can win the championship of the Bundesliga, but there is 1 team that I really think in particular that could have a chance in making it big in the Bundesliga and can even get a shot at the championship and right now it is Leipzig

I am not saying that it is absolutely inevitable. I am just saying that if you look at the other teams which can give some type of competition to Bayern Munich are not currently playing well.

First of all, we thought Dortmund is going to be the actual competitor. But that turned out to be wrong. Leipzig is six points behind Bayern Munich right now. So, that does not look very hopeful as well. Freiburg is showing good performance, but I don’t think they will be able to be consistent and they are also four points behind Bayern Munich.

So things do not look very hopeful for the other teams. On the other hand, Bayern Munich is basically scoring lots of goals in almost every match.

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Quote from: Lafu on November 17, 2022, 11:44:32 PM

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If Bayern get back into their shape right away I believe it will be very hard for anybody to stop them. That includes PSG. Nagelsmann's first priority will be to not let any doubt arise which turn the season is supposed to take for them during the second half.

Schalke is complicated. When you talk about history, well then you could also question why Hamburg is playing 2. Bundesliga... Schalke needs to sort out a lot of things and even then I think their way back to the top is a question of a decade, not just two or three years.

For Bayern Munich i have no doubts that they will be not struggling after the break and the World Cup for sure.
PSG and Munich has so much national players from everywhere and both have enough players that can play after the break.
Schalke is not complicated , they are lost this season. And if you mention Hamburg you can also take Nürnberg into that list.

Bayern has a significant advantage over second place in the rankings, so even if they lose against Leipzig and drop points, it won't have any impact on their standings. Furthermore, there will be plenty time to prepare for games against PSG because they share Bayern's predicament with them. This means that nobody will be at a disadvantage in these games. It's only a matter of time before Bayern wins the trophy, and even if they drop a few points, the other contenders will drop more. I believe that many of the bayern players participating in the world cup can offer the other clubs a slight edge in the bundesliga, but it won't be enough.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on November 19, 2022, 01:27:13 PM

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Bayern Munich will have no trouble maintaining its position in the Bundesliga. they are still very difficult for other clubs to be able to hold them. I see the World Cup being used a lot as an excuse because a lot of their players play for their national team. But I don't think so, physically the players who play in the World Cup will be more exhausted, but they also still have a few days to recover before playing at club level. I think that time is enough for them to recover their physical condition.

Well if the world cup is used as an excuse for the other clubs that their players are not at the top performance level then that is automatically the biggest excuse for Bayern Munich because they are the Bundesliga team which has the most players in the world cup as far as i know. I think in the end the difference in quality between Bayern Munich and the rest of the clubs is just to high. Before the season started a lot of people said that Borussia Dortmund has a good chance to become the Bundesliga champions this year because they got players like Süle, Schlotterbeck and Adeyemi. I mean those are good Bundesliga players but Bayern got playes like Mane and De Ligt at the same time, so for me the quality difference became even bigger this season.

It's true that I read this too because indeed for the current World Cup they beat Manchester City and FC Seoul's record which has lasted quite a long time because at this event Bayern is the biggest supplier of players with 17 players participating in the world cup and with details of Seven players for Germany, four for France and one each for Canada, Morocco, Croatia, the Netherlands, Cameroon and Senegal.
Obviously this is proof that they are indeed a strong team and it is difficult for other Bundesliga teams to be able to compete for the championship because from a player perspective it is very difficult to beat players at the national team level.
Borusia Dortmund is indeed predicted to be able to follow there, but this is difficult to happen, especially since the start of the season was not very good because Haller immediately could not play long enough.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on November 20, 2022, 03:58:02 AM

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Bayern Munich has been able to put itself to a level where they cannot be competed with by any other team in the Bundesliga. No one can deny that they are the single best team in the Bundesliga at the moment. It's a bit of an exaggeration to say so, but the facts that are happening do show that it is very difficult for some teams to stop Bayern Munich's current dominance. This has an impact on reducing the competitive rivalry of a league.

yes, you are right. but it has been like this for the last 10 years. bayern münchen buys better players than other teams or have more luck with buying players.
i think münchen will also be on top in the next 10 years because they have the best management in the bundesliga and the stadium is sold out every game.
And they still get a lot of tv money from uefa and dfb. And also other good sponsors give bavaria many many millions of euros a year.
they have earned it in the last 30 years to play at the top.

They have earned to stay at the top and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem I have is that there are no other teams that can actually challenge them. So this has become really boring for any viewer.

I believe this is true even for Bayern Munich fans because they are also getting bored watching basically no competition at all. It would have been better if they had competition. And another thing is that it is not the fault of Bayern Munich that they don’t have any competition right now in the Bundesliga. The other teams have to look at Bayern Munich and get better to compete against them for the title. But that will not happen soon.

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Bayern Munich also has a lot more opportunities financially than other clubs. They already have a strong team, but they can also easily afford to attract strong players. Other teams have to make do with much more limited resources, it's not that easy. Dortmund has been able to hook up nicely for years, but they have not been able to absorb the departure of Haaland well. It must be said that they are unlucky that Haaler became ill, because they also paid quite a bit of money for that. Maybe they can now buy a striker in the winter. They can use it well.

Bayern Munich is more financially stable than every other club in the Bundesliga. In the past year, in so many years they have been the people winning the Bundesliga title and getting the large amount of money, they also sign players make money from sales of jessey and they have numerous ways to make money including viewing rites.
When they continue to dominate the Bundesliga we will understand why, Dortmund in the other hand is a club that is supposed to compete with Bayern Munich but it is quite unfortunate that they sell all their star players every year and they don't replace them with other quality ones.

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Bayern Munich also has a lot more opportunities financially than other clubs. They already have a strong team, but they can also easily afford to attract strong players. Other teams have to make do with much more limited resources, it's not that easy. Dortmund has been able to hook up nicely for years, but they have not been able to absorb the departure of Haaland well. It must be said that they are unlucky that Haaler became ill, because they also paid quite a bit of money for that. Maybe they can now buy a striker in the winter. They can use it well.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 20, 2022, 03:21:54 AM

Bayern Munich has been able to put itself to a level where they cannot be competed with by any other team in the Bundesliga. No one can deny that they are the single best team in the Bundesliga at the moment. It's a bit of an exaggeration to say so, but the facts that are happening do show that it is very difficult for some teams to stop Bayern Munich's current dominance. This has an impact on reducing the competitive rivalry of a league.

Bayern Munich is back to dominating the Bundesliga, although previously it had experienced a downward trend. they are still too strong for their opponents in the Bundesliga competition, although Union Berlin has been a differentiator this season. however, in the end Union Berlin struggled to stay consistent to stay competitive with Bayern Munich.

as for Dortmund, usually this team, is always the runner up. but at this time, Dortmund seems very difficult to compete with other teams, especially with Bayern Munich. in the end Bayern's dominance will continue, at least Bayern will still win the league trophy this season.

and in the round of 16 later, Bayern Munich will find a real opponent for them. the reason is, PSG is a team that is balanced and equally strong. Bayern must not underestimate PSG, they are not Barcelona which is easy to overthrow. even PSG has a high probability of overthrowing Bayern Munich later.

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Quote from: maju69 on November 20, 2022, 07:21:26 AM

It's a shame we won't see Sadio Mane's performance with his national team at the World Cup. It is very unfortunate that it happened when the World Cup was only counting the days. Regarding his role at Bayern Munich, they will soon be looking for players to fill the void left by Sadio Mane. With this break, of course, they can be said to be lucky because they can prepare well in that position.

There is no other choice but not to participate in the World Cup because if he insists on participating in the match it will most likely make his injury even more fatal, at least Sadio Mane must rest and use the recovery process properly so he can immediately return to the team and contribute to a match in another league.

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Quote from: Lafu on November 19, 2022, 05:59:34 PM

Sadio Mane is already injured and will be missing the World Cup with his National Team and there will be a few Month break for him.
The injury is on the right fibula head , and he already got his operation in the Hospital.
Source : https://www.t-online.de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/fc-bayern-muenchen/id_100082582/fc-bayern-sadio-mane-faellt-monatelang-aus.html
I have no doubts that Nagelsmann will be find a good solution if there will be more injured after the World Cup.

It's a shame we won't see Sadio Mane's performance with his national team at the World Cup. It is very unfortunate that it happened when the World Cup was only counting the days. Regarding his role at Bayern Munich, they will soon be looking for players to fill the void left by Sadio Mane. With this break, of course, they can be said to be lucky because they can prepare well in that position.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 19, 2022, 12:30:17 PM

Bayern winning the trophy is only a matter of time even if they lose some points the other contenders will lose more i think many of bayern players playing in the world cup can give a small advantage in the bundesliga to the other teams but it won't be enough.

4 points are what Freiburg needed to get the 34 points that Bayern Munich has, while Leipzig would need 6 points to match Bayern Munich's 34 points, pretty much it is a short point what is needed by these two teams but Bayern Munich has set up themselves to the top because of the crazy players that they have right now, their momentum was come to halt when Sadio Mane change his position but when he returned it was really a solid team for the Bayern Munich we are seeing right now,

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 19, 2022, 12:44:33 PM

Bayern Munich will have no trouble maintaining its position in the Bundesliga. they are still very difficult for other clubs to be able to hold them. I see the World Cup being used a lot as an excuse because a lot of their players play for their national team. But I don't think so, physically the players who play in the World Cup will be more exhausted, but they also still have a few days to recover before playing at club level. I think that time is enough for them to recover their physical condition.

Well for me that 4 points lead of Bayern Munich is not hard to chase, the next match for Bayern Munich is against Leipzig, and in this match, we can see if Bayern Munich can really win against Leipzig that is really focus now, this will be a real test for Bayern Munich 1 wrong move and Leipzig could get that momentum in my opinion, Well, I really want to observe this match if what will happen and I am pretty much curious about the result,

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This only shows the strength of Bavaria. More recently, they regularly played in the Champions League finals and it can be said that they dominated there too, if not for Real, then this would be the era of Bayern. Therefore, I do not agree that Bayern can win the Bundesliga "in any conditions". They are just the strongest of all, but if they suddenly weaken, then there will be someone who can surpass them.

They have 11 final matches in Champions League, it is the same as what AC Milan have but Bayern won only 6 titles compare to 7 titles for AC Milan. Above them, there is only one, the King of Champions League, Real Madrid with 14 titles and 3 runner-up times.

I am shocked to look at Wiki today and see that if Real Madrid play in Champions League final matches, they mostly win. Their win rate is higher than 82% that is unbelievable.

Yes, Real Madrid has eclipsed everyone and in a sense it is a grief for everyone else because such achievements are difficult to repeat and any win will be compared with Real Madrid.

But my point was that Bayern are too strong, not just by the standards of the Bundesliga, but by the standards of all European championships, so they have such results in the Bundesliga. If suddenly Bayern becomes weaker, then in the Bundesliga there will be someone to challenge the first place of Bayern. But these potential competitors should not wait for the recession of Bavaria, but should reach the top European level.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 19, 2022, 02:06:54 PM

Unless Bayern Munich deal with many injuries there wouldn't be much thing changing for them after the World Cup. They are still the most disciplined team by far in the league. Only serious injuries can cause them to stumble too much and be under the danger of losing their title chance to another team.

It must not be a big problem. In my opinion even the substitution players have equal performance with the main squads. Bayern has been anticipating that thing to happen with its players. Bayern needs to be more consistent caused by it has only small gap with the second position in bundesliga.

Quote from: Velvet78 on November 19, 2022, 02:06:54 PM

Most of us would like to see a different team becoming the champions but it seems really difficult. Unless some other team build a squad that can fight with Bayern Munich until the end of a season nothing will change.

It will never happen with bundesliga. Bayern has taken the throne at the first position of bundesliga and it will be so hard to replace this team from the first position until bayern will not lucky enough to win some matches in a row. That will result bayern to lose lots of points.
That will make another team to take the first position.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 20, 2022, 03:21:54 AM

Bayern Munich has been able to put itself to a level where they cannot be competed with by any other team in the Bundesliga. No one can deny that they are the single best team in the Bundesliga at the moment. It's a bit of an exaggeration to say so, but the facts that are happening do show that it is very difficult for some teams to stop Bayern Munich's current dominance. This has an impact on reducing the competitive rivalry of a league.

yes, you are right. but it has been like this for the last 10 years. bayern münchen buys better players than other teams or have more luck with buying players.
i think münchen will also be on top in the next 10 years because they have the best management in the bundesliga and the stadium is sold out every game.
And they still get a lot of tv money from uefa and dfb. And also other good sponsors give bavaria many many millions of euros a year.
they have earned it in the last 30 years to play at the top.

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