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Quote from: hahay on July 16, 2022, 10:35:43 PM

From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million. Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.

I would be surprised if that news is true because i highly doubt that Bayern will offer such a high amount of money to Juventus already. The last thing that i heard was that Juventus wants to have the same amount of money for De Ligt that they have paid for him themself, which was 80 Million €. I don't think that Bayern would pay even 1 € more than this 80 Million € but they are probably trying to get him for like 60-70 Million €. I would guess that in the end the price will be at around 80 Million € including all portential bonuses. Bayern will never pay 100 Million €. If Bayern could get De Ligt for 80 Million € then i think it is a good transfer because he is only 22 years old.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on July 16, 2022, 09:32:23 AM

Bayern Munich has been winning the Bundesliga title for the last 10 years. I don’t think any team has given them too much of a problem in the last 10 years of Bayern Munich's dominance. You know, Dortmund won the Bundesliga title in the 2011-2012 season.

But after that, it was all Bayern Munich. And Bayern has also become very strong during these years. Now they basically have no competition in the Bundesliga.

And you are right, Bundesliga does feel like it’s becoming a lot boring because we all know that Bayern is going to win the league title. In the early years, Dortmund did give them a bit of resistance, but now that is no longer the case.

Back when there are no Lewandowski Bayern Munich was a dominant team, but with Robert Lewandowski from that timeline of 2013-14 Robert Lewandowski has been Bayern Munich Top goal scorer, that comes from Borrusia Dortmund, but guess what in the years 2010-11 from the 2009-10 championship the Dortmund attained the Bundesliga Championship, Robert Lewandowski was their biggest asset, that is why on the years 2012-13 when Bayern Munich was champion again, I think Robert Lewandowski doesn't want to play for Borrusia Dortmund anymore, and when Bayern Munich acquired Lewandowski on their team the chain of Bayern Munich to the championship has never been predetermined that if Robert Lewandowski is on the team it was a sure win for Bayern Munich, so what I am saying here is if they don't have Lewandowski anymore do you still think they can be champion next season, Robert Lewandowski is a core to every success of Bayern Munich and now if you will look at this NEWS it is now official that Robert Lewandowski is traded to Barcelona,

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Bayern Munich must be really sad about letting Robert Lewandowski go now. He is joining the Barcelona side very soon as the agreement between the teams has been completed. It is a happy ending for Lewandowski as well because his wish has been playing for Barcelona since their interest in him started. The issues between Lewandowski and Bayern Munich caused this to happen. Bayern Munich will lose a lot of power in the attacking side for sure as Lewandowski has scored most of their goals so far.

I don't think so, because Bayern Munich have already found the replacement they had prepared long before Lewandowski left, namely Sadio Mane. A bit of loss is possible, because Lewandowski has been playing with them for a long time. But even so they will not be long to move on from Robert Lewandowski. I'm sure of that.

I thought of Sadio Mane as Lewandowski's associate. I don't think he can replace Lewandowski. Lewandowski has been with Bayern Munich for a long time. And Lewandowski's understanding of the team's players was very good. It will take time for Mane to do that. Bayern Munich may now try to sign Ronaldo. The pairing of Mane and Ronaldo will make Bayern Munich's forwards stronger.

You can describe Lewandowski as a monster in attack. He is that kind of player that guarantees you at least 25 goals in the league each season. Mane is good and scores goal but cannot guarantee the number of goal Lewandowski can offer each season. Lewandowski will surely be missed at Bayern Munich for his contributions and even though Mane will not be the perfect replace for Lewandowski,he will surely bring more fire power to the Bayern attack next season.

I totally agree with you. Robert Lewandowski scored 35 goals in 34 games in the Bundesliga last season, and 13 goals in 10 Champions League games. On the other hand, Sadio Mane scored 5 goals in 13 Champions League matches. In the Premier League, he has performed in 34 matches and scored only 16 goals. This is why I don't consider Sadio Mane as a worthy replacement for Robert Lewandowski. Sadio Mane is indeed a very talented player. However, Bayern Munich need more talented strikers if they want to do well in the Champions League.

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Quote from: hahay on July 16, 2022, 10:35:43 PM

From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million.

90 million is big deal and it is hard to reject for Juventus. However in personal consideration for De Ligt career, I think it will be better for him to move to a big club in Premier League. It is a more competitive league and he can grow more there. He will face with more world class attacking players and it is good for him. In Bayern and Bundesliga, De Ligt will waste bet time of his career to learn and improve himself.

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Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.

Bayern are actually serious with De Ligt and their offers show that. I think it is high value in recession and Bayern do see a great potential from De Ligt and plan to use this defender for long. De Ligt can play good as a central defender that is his most favorite position but he can play at left or right position in defense system too. He is like Chiellini in young age.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on July 16, 2022, 12:43:03 PM

I don't think that Lewandoski will be replaced by Ronaldo, Ronaldo is too old and can't guarantee any kind of future for a team like Bayern, that's why they has bought Mane, at the moment I've starting to understand why

of this move, he will be the future of this team probably, but they also need anyway to enforce his attack, Lewandoski is an outsider and it wouldn't be so easy to replace it.

They have to replace the player, but usually they only have to replace the goals he scored each season. That was +40 goals with all the games. If they can do that with 2 players, then they have reached the goal. I'm glad that is finally done, again and again because of one person. Now at Bayern 2 great players should take over his part and they are also so successful.

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Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment

The question is whether Bayern Munich will be willing to pay more than that? I myself believe they can afford it if they have to pay more than 80 million, but I also agree it's a fantastic figure for a defender like you said. But it's back to Bayern Munich if they believe in that value de Ligt can give a game worth what they spend, I don't think that's a problem either.

From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million. Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.

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Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment

The question is whether Bayern Munich will be willing to pay more than that? I myself believe they can afford it if they have to pay more than 80 million, but I also agree it's a fantastic figure for a defender like you said. But it's back to Bayern Munich if they believe in that value de Ligt can give a game worth what they spend, I don't think that's a problem either.

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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€ Shocked

I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.

De ligt is a young player with potential so it's natural that the price is so expensive, but I don't think that Bayern Munich will sign him because from the beginning Bayern teams rarely buy expensive players they tend to buy potential players at cheap prices.
This is just a rumor, because De Ligt doesn't feel at home with Juventus anymore, so he has been associated with several other teams. in fact now De ligt is very close to Chelsea.

Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment like Dortmund did find them in teams outside the top league

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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€ Shocked

I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.

De ligt is a young player with potential so it's natural that the price is so expensive, but I don't think that Bayern Munich will sign him because from the beginning Bayern teams rarely buy expensive players they tend to buy potential players at cheap prices.
This is just a rumor, because De Ligt doesn't feel at home with Juventus anymore, so he has been associated with several other teams. in fact now De ligt is very close to Chelsea.

Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

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It won't matter much for the championship. Of course Bayern will have to look for a replacement for him, but other than that Bayern still have a great vanguard. But no one was as good as Lewndovsky in recent years. Haaland would also have fitted very well into the system at Munich. I wonder who they want to get in rush hour at Munich. They will easily become champions again, but with the focus on the Champions League you will have to find a good striker quickly. And they cost money.

I am afraid the money that Bayern won from Lewandowski will be dedicated to fill the gap for De ligt signing and to renew the contract of Gnabry.
Otherwise they are chasing Laimer, a midfielder, for quite long period and Leipzig are asking for €30m.
The only attacker that Bayern seems interested on is Mathys Tel and it will cost them between €25-30m.

It looks like Bayern will run out of money because they are very focused on getting Matthijs de Light, which the De Light transfer fee is very
expensive. After that like you said Bayern will buy Konrad Laimer and extend Gnabry's contract. Then regarding Mathys Tel I doubt Bayern will
buy him to replace Lewandowski. Besides being 17 years old, too young to play in the Bayern main squad, Mathys Tel's price is also quite expensive,
so it's likely that Bayern will sign Mathys Tel next year. So it doesn't look like Bayern will be looking for a striker to replace Lewandowski in this
year's transfer window, but that's not a problem for Bayern. Sadio Mane can play as a centre-forward, because at Liverpool also sometimes Mane
played as a center forward several times and proved quite successful.

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It is a big question whom Bayern Munich are going to bring for their centre-forward position. They weren't expecting a departure for Lewandowski before this summer. After some problems between two sides broke out, he just wanted to leave. Bayern Munich would start attempts for some strikers soon. Yes they missed the Haaland opportunity too but they still can find another good striker.

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It won't matter much for the championship. Of course Bayern will have to look for a replacement for him, but other than that Bayern still have a great vanguard. But no one was as good as Lewndovsky in recent years. Haaland would also have fitted very well into the system at Munich. I wonder who they want to get in rush hour at Munich. They will easily become champions again, but with the focus on the Champions League you will have to find a good striker quickly. And they cost money.

I am afraid the money that Bayern won from Lewandowski will be dedicated to fill the gap for De ligt signing and to renew the contract of Gnabry.
Otherwise they are chasing Laimer, a midfielder, for quite long period and Leipzig are asking for €30m.
The only attacker that Bayern seems interested on is Mathys Tel and it will cost them between €25-30m.

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We know the greatness of Mane when he was at Liverpool and this clearly will give high expectations especially in terms of Mane's performance can still be good there.
Even though it is still very difficult for the top scorer when there is Lewandowski in the Bundesliga, Mane's name will still be lifted with some achievements in the Bundesliga next season, I think it can still be done for Mane.

Yes, you are right, for me Mane has a lot to offer and give, I hope that this season he makes one of the plays to which he has us accustomed, however it is as you say Lewa is one of the best, and for me he is the owner of the ballon d'or and not Messi at the time they were competing, so here it is a question of merit.

Now Lewandowski is about to leave Bayern and of course this makes Mane's chance of making a surprise in attack even bigger because after Lewandowski's death now he will indirectly become the ideal targetman for Bayern.
Obviously this is a huge advantage for Mane and I wish him all the best in his first season in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: darewaller on July 16, 2022, 04:32:58 PM

Ronaldo to Bayern gained some sort of power right now. I know it's not going to be easy for the teams to deal with this right now, United wants to keep Ronaldo and that would be hard for them to let him go. But at the current stage, we are talking about a team that will win the league and will play in the UCL, which is all Ronaldo wants.

If they could convince the team, they could convince Ronaldo for sure. Plus, it's the type of transfer Bayern loves, they will pay a certain sum, but thanks to jersey sales, they will certainly be in profit. That means they would be both fiscally responsible, and replace Lewandowski without a problem for them as well and continue to rock.

Well , I'm sure the media will fuel that rumor even more now in order to get a lot of views but I personally doubt that CR7 will leave United this summer or even next year. Oliver Kahn said clearly that CR7 is not suitable for what Bayern is looking for and also is not the Bayern model to pursue a player like Ronaldo even if he is one of the greatest. Basically Kahn said with a lot of respect that Bayern won't need Ronaldo and that says about Bayern that they are still a strong team with great players even after losing Lewa.

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Dortmund managed to secure the deal with ajax striker haller it is a good deal especially after haaland departure, haller is an excelent player he was the eredivisie top scorer last season and he was one of the top in the champions league so i think he will be successfull in the bundesliga, especially because he has a similar play style with haaland.

I honestly can't compare and say that Haller will be able to replace Haaland now. I still want to see how far Haller will contribute to Borussia Dortmund. I hope he can do better or at least match what Haaland did to bring Borussia Dortmund into competition with Bayern Munich. Because after all I want the Bundesliga to be more competitive.

Dortmund was able to make a good transfer by getting Haller on the team. But that is not going to be enough to compete against a team like Bayern Munich. If we look at the players that both teams have, we will see that Bayern Munich has a much more balanced and better team compared to Dortmund. Just getting Haller is obviously not going to be enough for Dortmund to compete at the same level as Bayern Munich. But I really think that Haller is going to fit right in the team.

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It won't matter much for the championship. Of course Bayern will have to look for a replacement for him, but other than that Bayern still have a great vanguard. But no one was as good as Lewndovsky in recent years. Haaland would also have fitted very well into the system at Munich. I wonder who they want to get in rush hour at Munich. They will easily become champions again, but with the focus on the Champions League you will have to find a good striker quickly. And they cost money.

Lewandowski's final decision to actually move to Barcelona is big news. Especially because the struggle is quite tough for Barcelona and Lewandowski himself for this transfer. We know how Bayern Munich wanted to keep Lewandowski before.
Yes, indeed his position and contribution at Bayern so far may be difficult to replace by other players, especially by Mane. However, what about Ronaldo? Maybe it can't replace that optimally. However, Ronaldo actually has enough opportunities to get into the team and prove that he can still make a big contribution to the team, not inferior to other young players. It's just a matter of whether Ronaldo is in the Bundesliga game environment

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Ronaldo to Bayern gained some sort of power right now. I know it's not going to be easy for the teams to deal with this right now, United wants to keep Ronaldo and that would be hard for them to let him go. But at the current stage, we are talking about a team that will win the league and will play in the UCL, which is all Ronaldo wants.

If they could convince the team, they could convince Ronaldo for sure. Plus, it's the type of transfer Bayern loves, they will pay a certain sum, but thanks to jersey sales, they will certainly be in profit. That means they would be both fiscally responsible, and replace Lewandowski without a problem for them as well and continue to rock.

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Dortmund are looking for talent, not star players. that's the difference between Dortmund movement with other teams in the transfer market this summer. So it's no wonder Dortmund have been very active in the transfer market this summer as Dortmund just lost their star Erling Haaland this summer. In the Bundesliga, Dortmund is indeed a tight competition for bayern in the race for the title, but at the end of the competition it is always Bayern who won the German league trophy.

I haven't seen any competition over the last few seasons but I agree with what you said about Dortmund being good at looking for talent here.
Indeed, their eyes are quite observant in bringing in young players and making their potential shine even more because indeed not a few great young players started there.
It's a shame that their talented talents are not used for competitive purposes, even though it's quite worth it from a business perspective.

Of course, Dortmund is a team that produces really talented players. However, the problem is they don't have those players to keep them in the team and win trophies with them. Instead, Dortmund is a team that finds players so that they will be able to make a profit from those players later by selling them. If the talents that Dortmund finds were used for competitive purposes, I think Dortmund could have been a team with a lot of trophies to show. But that is not the aim of the club at all, they just want to do well in business

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on July 16, 2022, 03:54:12 PM

You can describe Lewandowski as a monster in attack. He is that kind of player that guarantees you at least 25 goals in the league each season. Mane is good and scores goal but cannot guarantee the number of goal Lewandowski can offer each season. Lewandowski will surely be missed at Bayern Munich for his contributions and even though Mane will not be the perfect replace for Lewandowski,he will surely bring more fire power to the Bayern attack next season.

Robert Lewandowski is already a legend for Bayern Munich. He has played for them for eight seasons in a row. In this time period he has scored so many goals as well. His contribution to this team is always going to be remembered certainly. He wanted to go and Bayern Munich are giving what he wants now. The reason why they have accepted Barcelona's last offer must be related to the money amount. Because he had only one year on his contract and he was going to be free agent at the end of the season.

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It won't matter much for the championship. Of course Bayern will have to look for a replacement for him, but other than that Bayern still have a great vanguard. But no one was as good as Lewndovsky in recent years. Haaland would also have fitted very well into the system at Munich. I wonder who they want to get in rush hour at Munich. They will easily become champions again, but with the focus on the Champions League you will have to find a good striker quickly. And they cost money.

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