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Odds are pretty lucrative on Dortmund (15/4). Seems like bookies don't see any home advantage in the absence of fans, lol. Cheesy

Well, I think match will be closer than what bookies are predicting. If Sancho is fit and can play full minutes then it can even go draw (17/4 odds, ehh). I am going for a draw, let's see how the rivalry between Haaland and Lewa goes. Can they become Messi-Ronaldo of Bundesliga? (maybe Lewa is too old for this rivalry to last long). Cheesy

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on May 26, 2020, 09:08:45 AM

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TL:DR: Tried to explain why I thought Werner could become top goalscorer this season.

Nice post and no need for tldr, because although this is a prediction thread, there are not that many predictions in here. So always good to read some proper analysis.

What odds did you get ? I saw 5.0 at Tipico, but didn't check elsewhere. Catching up 3 goals in 7 matches is certainly not easy when Lewandowski scores basically every game. Bayern has 4 games, where I would expect them to not score a lot: Dortmund, Leverkusen, Gladbach and Wolfsburg. Against Düsseldorf, Freiburg and Bremen they could score quite a few, especially against Bremen imo.

Leipzig has Paderborn and Hoffenheim, where I see them scoring some more goals. Against Dortmund they won't score a lot imo, the rest is to be seen. I would probably want more than the 5.0 from Tipico, more like 8-ish, so curious what you got.

Odds were 5.0 on bet365, too. I know that it's probably not going to happen but I listened to my gut and I think the possiblity is higher that the odds would suggest.

Same as you, I also think the matches of Bayern against Dortmund, Leverkusen, Gladbach are the ones where Lewandowski will probably have the hardest time to score. Freiburg is also not that easy to play against. They tend to be do much better against stronger teams when they can focus on their defence. Last season they were the only team where Bayern couldn't win at least on of their 2 matches. Bremen is always in danger of getting a real beating from Bayern. In addition to that, Bayern also has another match in the DFB cup in early June (one more match in an already tense and exhausting schedule).

For Leipzig I see the matches against Berlin and Dortmund as the toughest ones. Especially Hertha. They are doing really good since the restart under their new coach and I am really excited for that match tomorrow. The other teams I see at a level of Mainz at best. On a good day the offence of Leipzig can really shine in these matches.

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on May 26, 2020, 08:12:13 AM

TL:DR: Tried to explain why I thought Werner could become top goalscorer this season.

Nice post and no need for tldr, because although this is a prediction thread, there are not that many predictions in here. So always good to read some proper analysis.

What odds did you get ? I saw 5.0 at Tipico, but didn't check elsewhere. Catching up 3 goals in 7 matches is certainly not easy when Lewandowski scores basically every game. Bayern has 4 games, where I would expect them to not score a lot: Dortmund, Leverkusen, Gladbach and Wolfsburg. Against Düsseldorf, Freiburg and Bremen they could score quite a few, especially against Bremen imo.

Leipzig has Paderborn and Hoffenheim, where I see them scoring some more goals. Against Dortmund they won't score a lot imo, the rest is to be seen. I would probably want more than the 5.0 from Tipico, more like 8-ish, so curious what you got.

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I'm not sure if anyone would be interested, but I was wondering what the chances are for Werner to outperform Lewandowski and become the top goalgetter this season. Right now, Werner is at 24 goals, Lewandowski already at 27. So I quickly compared the remaining games of Leipzig and Bayern in view of the chance for Werner and Lewandowski to score goals.

Leipzig's remaining matches are (the numbers show Werners goals in the first legs match):
Hertha (2)
Koln (1)
Paderborn (1)
Hoffenheim (2)
Dusseldorf (1)
Dortmund (2)
Augsburg (0)

Bayern's remaining matches are (the numbers show Lewandowskis goals in the first legs match):
Dortmund (2)
Dusseldorf (0)
Bayer Leverkusen (0)
Gladbach (0)
Bremen (2)
Freiburg (1)
Wolfsburg (0)

At first glance, the games for Leipzig look a bit easier. While Lewandowski scored 5 goals in the first half of the season against them, Werner managed to score 9. If history repeats, that would be enough to beat Lewandowski. I know it's not really a good argumentation and Lewandowski is capable to score 5 goals in 9 min (what a legendary game!) but for me it was enough to justify a small bet on Werner with the current odds.

TL:DR: Tried to explain why I thought Werner could become top goalscorer this season.

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Quote from: bct_ail on May 26, 2020, 05:07:46 AM

It will be very enjoyable to watch the duel of these two master feet tonight. Moreover, Dortmund and Munich are in a very critical situation. The fact that the match is in Dortmund raises the excitement even higher. And although Munich is seen as a favorite, I think Dortmund may have a chance.

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I think Bayern 3-2 Dortmund
M'Gladbach 2-1 Werder
Leverkusen 3-1 Wolfsbourg
Fribourg vs Eintracht, no clue maybe a draw?
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I always prefer the team that builds talent with youth & doesn’t spend too much money. I much prefer Dortmund to Bayern, obviously my love for Klopp leads me to preferring BVB too. I really hope Dortmund can win the title, they’re 4 points behind Bayern so they really can’t afford to lose this game.

Dortmund is mostly made up of young players. However, the team's budget is not as low as you think. I think they are a very high budget team. Haaland transfer was not a transfer that a very low budget team could make.

They are selling their players at high value so they have money to spend on new signings.
Just think of how many good players Dortmund has sold over the last years. Dembele, Goeche, Aubameyang are also some examples of that. This way Dortmund is making money in order to be able to make new signings.

Dortmund often sells the young and talented players they buy at a higher price. This is an economically beautiful thing. But they don't always buy the players they buy very cheaply.

Let's take a look a bit;

Mats Hummels; 35 Million €
Axel Witsel; 20 Million €
Aubameyang; 15 Million € (and sold 65 Million € to Arsenal)

But they also have a cheapest;

Dan-Axel Zagadou; 150K €
Achraf Hakimi; 5 Million €

So I mean my previous post that Dortmund have a good budget. But they are managing this budget thing well.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 26, 2020, 03:43:07 AM

many news channels are talking about this game, I even saw news with the following title:

Haaland vs Lewandowski

it seems that on the field there will only be these two players. Grin

The main point is that this is there first meet together in a game. So everybody cannot wait to see this
Lewandowski is the striker in the Bundesliga and Haaland is one of those players who can shake up the status quo

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for me that was Leverkusen with Ballack, they played great football, and reached CL final with Real Madrid, but Zidane fantastic goal took them title in the end, and they did not make to take first Bundesliga title in club history as well, maybe Kai could change things next season, in case he stay with the club

If I remember correctly, they were in contention for 3 trophies that season. Lost the cup final, then the title with a loss to a bottom part of the table team (can't recall which one) 2 or 3 games before the end and then lost that CL final against Real Madrid. In the summer they sold Ballack and Ze Roberto and barely avoided relegation and got knocked out in 2nd CL group stage without collecting a single point.

I liked that team, with Ballack, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Basturk, Berbatov and Kirsten. 3 Croatian players were there as well at that point - none of them any good btw Grin

yeah, it was like that, but nevertheless great team, that was really enjoyable to follow

regarding this season, would consider them with small chances in case of draw in Dortmund today, they have a chance with seven wins (including one over Bayern at home), since there are matches between other teams, and it could happen, although odds for title in Leverkusen are small

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Quote from: vycl87 on May 25, 2020, 08:58:44 AM

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I always prefer the team that builds talent with youth & doesn’t spend too much money. I much prefer Dortmund to Bayern, obviously my love for Klopp leads me to preferring BVB too. I really hope Dortmund can win the title, they’re 4 points behind Bayern so they really can’t afford to lose this game.

Dortmund is mostly made up of young players. However, the team's budget is not as low as you think. I think they are a very high budget team. Haaland transfer was not a transfer that a very low budget team could make.

They are selling their players at high value so they have money to spend on new signings.
Just think of how many good players Dortmund has sold over the last years. Dembele, Goeche, Aubameyang are also some examples of that. This way Dortmund is making money in order to be able to make new signings.

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Quote from: bct_ail on May 26, 2020, 02:53:44 AM

I really hope we will see an exciting game.

many news channels are talking about this game, I even saw news with the following title:

Haaland vs Lewandowski

it seems that on the field there will only be these two players. Grin

and in another news channel they were talking about the victory that Bayern had 7 years ago when they defeated Borussia Dortmund in the champions league, this will be a very disputed game

I wonder:

who between those two players will score a goal?

I am of the opinion that Lewandowski is more likely to score at least 1 goal in this game

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Quote from: Lafu on May 25, 2020, 10:30:13 PM

I guess everybody is looking today for the most intresting match

I really hope we will see an exciting game. It seems that most of the players from Bayern are well. Dortmund has a few question marks with Alex Wittel. Marco Reus will definetly not joining the game but Mats Hummels are in with 99 per cent

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Quote from: StephenJH on May 25, 2020, 02:44:45 PM

Agree with your opinion, my prediction is Draw for the next matches. Especially Dortmund and Bayern games can be chosen wisely for betting on goal markets. The both mentioned games have the highest chance of BTTS and over 2.5 goals, IMHO.

Young, talented and powered fully don't mean that Dortmund will be allowed to play the tactics they want because Bayern is wisely enough to try to cool down the Dortmund's young players and control the match in the direction they want to have. If Dortmund don't pay attention on the defensive system, they will highly be trapped by Bayern. Bayern has Lewandowski, the leader in the Bundesliga's top scorers and is still one of the best strikers over the world.

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Bayern still has to play Leverkusen away and Monchengladbach at home, also Wolfsburg away in the last game of the season. On the other hand, Borussia has only Leipzig away that can be considered as a tough game so I'd say overall Dortmund has a better (easier) fixtures list. If they can win today, I'd consider them favorites to lift the championship.

Bayern is practically unreachable if they win today, but I'd consider them strong favorites even if they get a draw.

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I guess everybody is looking today for the most intresting match that can be a trend setting for the coming Champion of the German League.
I will bet on Dortmund and i guess they can do it and if they win this match the last match days would be more intresting.
If Bayern Munich will win it they have to 90 % the Championship.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on May 25, 2020, 07:03:50 AM

The two big teams Hamburg & Stuttgart have by far the best players, but both are struggling to get their act together. On Thursday evening there will be a crucial match, because they play each other. Guess all the other teams will hope for a draw Cheesy

Would be ok-ish result for Hamburg, but Stuttgart needs those 3 points badly imo - and if it's just to regain some self-confidence, they look completely lost since the season has resumed.

If Stuttgart will lost his game against Hamburg and Bielefeld will won his next game, its pretty clear that Bielefeld are going to promoted to the Bundesliga 1.
But next game from Bielefeld is at May 30! That is a big advantage for them because they don’t have an englisch week like the other clubs. Actually they would have to play against Dresden. But Dresden has his Corona Trail and so they will repeat the play day 27 at June 15th.

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 25, 2020, 02:41:50 PM

for me that was Leverkusen with Ballack, they played great football, and reached CL final with Real Madrid, but Zidane fantastic goal took them title in the end, and they did not make to take first Bundesliga title in club history as well, maybe Kai could change things next season, in case he stay with the club

If I remember correctly, they were in contention for 3 trophies that season. Lost the cup final, then the title with a loss to a bottom part of the table team (can't recall which one) 2 or 3 games before the end and then lost that CL final against Real Madrid. In the summer they sold Ballack and Ze Roberto and barely avoided relegation and got knocked out in 2nd CL group stage without collecting a single point.

I liked that team, with Ballack, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Basturk, Berbatov and Kirsten. 3 Croatian players were there as well at that point - none of them any good btw Grin

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Has anyone checked the game results according the age averages of the teams? I have a theory that teams with higher age average would have been more successful these rounds because every player is out of breath after a while and they are getting back on shape and many of the young players run far too much which makes them be even more tired than the older players whereas older players are usually more talented because they have more experience and know what to do in situations.

I don't have any data about this and maybe I could be wrong but if there is someone who can find age averages of the teams and check their results it could come up with a great result that we will probably (hopefully) never see again after giving such a break and coming back and see if talent overcomes age easily.

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