Topic: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 325. (Read 661643 times)

Tottenham's Big Ange & Ben Davies faced the media today and asked for their thoughts about tomorrow's match against Munich



This is a friendly match so like Tottenham I do not think that the Bayern Munich coach is going to give a lot of importance to this match. There is no reason for anyone to actually be so serious about a friendly match. Because at the end of the day every friendly match is just a way for the coaches to actually try out different things that they think might work and do some experiment. Keeping all the players healthy is a big condition for Bayern Munich to have success in this season. And I think that is going to be the priority for the new coach of Bayern Munich.

Of course Kompany would like to impress the authority. They have seen him have success before. And they obviously have been impressed by him before and that’s why they have brought him in. You would not want to make them think that it was a mistake for sure. But I think he can only do that by winning the Bundesliga title.

Source: https://onefootball.com/en/news/presser-points-fc-bayern-vs-spurs-ange-postecoglou-and-ben-davies-39842463

I think the odds for Bayer Leverkusen are fair. At this point having a 3.50 odd is not a big deal. They won the league flawlessly last season but this is a new season and they haven't shown that consistency for their odd to be smaller than that at this time. Bayern Munich for example have won the Bundesliga over 8 consecutive seasons, so they have proven that they know how to win a league title. What I have an issue with is Bayern Munich's odd actually. I don't believe it should be that low. They have not made any major changes in players from last season and they have just hired a rookie coach that his chance of success right now is 60-40. I feel like Bayern's odd should be up to 2 and Leverkusen's should be good where it is.


Do you mean a match or a season?
If it's a match then you have to look at various factors like the current form of both teams. The team that is in better form might be the favourite.
You also look at which team is bigger among the two. Then there is the factor of available and unavailable players. How many important players will miss the match due to injury or suspension?
In some cases, the location of the match plays a role. It may not seem like it, but the team playing home or away may play a role in determining who is favourite.
This doesn't mean the favorite team will win though.

Yeah, I agree with you cause most coaches use the pre-season as an opportunity to select their best eleven against a new season and also access the form and level of performance of younger talents, to know those that would be included in the squad, those that would be loaned out and those who's time is up in the team. Mathys Tel is a good player, he's showcased his skill in the previous season when Tuchel was head co but I believe he'll want to improve better to show the new coach that he's worthy of being in his squad this coming season, well he won't be in the starting eleven as a top 9 when the season kicks off, but I believe Kompany would give him more playing time and probably utilise him from the flank. Bayern would need to be very prepared against the task ahead, they have their title to claim back from Leverkusen and for that to be possible, Kompany should be getting his squad very fit and well prepared for the next season.

Indeed, the chance of failure is still very likely to happen and of  course, I also believe Bayer Leverkusen will not be able to get a winning streak like last season or rather unbeaten in the domestic league. But even so, even though Bayer Leverkusen will get a few defeats in the next season, but to become a title-winning team is also a reality that can be realized despite a few defeats. Thus, Bayer Leverkusen will still have a chance to win the trophy again because after all, as long as Bayern Munich managed to get the Bundesliga trophy in a row, Bayern Munich also had some losing results in the season.

Therefore, winning the trophy is not only about the success of playing matches without defeat,but about the competition that occurs at that moment. After all, if Bayer Leverkusen has a few defeats but at the same time the competing teams get more defeats also Bayer Leverkusen will still get the trophy. Although indeed,there is still no guarantee that Bayer Leverkusen will succeed in getting the Bundesliga trophy next season, but for some reason I believe Bayer Leverkusen still has a good chance.

For some players, pre-season matches are an opportunity to show their quality. For example, for new players who are recruited, or for players with young talents who are motivated to show their performance. In the first match of this pre-season, Bayern Munich played many young talents including their center forward Mathys Tel who wanted to show his skills. In the second friendly match, again the 19-year-old player was fielded as the main starter. At least, as a young talent he was motivated to show his skills. In the match against Spurs, we do not know the starting line-up that Vincent Kompany will field. But considering that both teams will play home and away, plus Bayern's pre-season match before the real campaign, it is possible that Vincent Kompany will play his core players, although not all of them play as the main starter. Because, if I look at Bayern's schedule, they only have two friendly matches before the real campaign. The point is, before Bayern plays in an official competition, Kompany will play his core players for fitness, tactics and strategy, plus determining an effective system. so the important point is not about winning the match, but includes everything that the coach and his staff have planned. the new season is coming soon, therefore Bayern will prepare the performance of its players and we can review it after the real campaign starts.

What happened to Leverkusen last season is still considered a miracle in one season so many people are still very doubtful if Leverkusen achievements last season will be repeated next season, to be honest, I personally really agree with this assessment because it is based on previous experience we can see that the surprise of a team only occurs for one season, but the next seasons the team experiences a downturn, we also cannot guarantee that Leverkusen will be able to maintain last season performance next season, because Leverkusen success last season cannot be separated from the decline in Munich performance and Dortmund in the league, Munich which is currently starting to improve their squad, of course we cannot underestimate if they will to dominate the Bundesliga again in next seasons.

I know that about unstable performances in the new season because there are many who experience such things after the team goes crazy one season and then goes downhill.
That's why I think they are in a hurry, Xabi Alonso can retain his players and convince many people with him, is it just because Bayer Munich always dominates the Bundesliga then they give a special seat to Bayer Munich?

Maybe our eyes are blind to their judgment, there is something we don't know, it's possible, but it attracts my curiosity.

As far as Xabi Alonso remains Leverkusen's coach the team will always remain strong and be able to win a title, Xabi Alonso deserves praise and also be counted as one of the best managers in football history, he did what some coaches have never done in their careers before, he leads the team to win two trophies in a season, Leverkusen, the team has not been able to win the league title since many years but he makes a good formation by signing new players and build them and win trophies, Xabi Alonso is a legend as a player and also as a coach, Bayern Munich fails to win the league title last season and I will not be surprised if they still end up this season without a single trophy.

The reason why I said that is because Leverkusen is still a very strong team and if Xabi Alonso remains the coach the team will still be competing with Bayern Munich to win the league title this season, Bayern Munich has good players and also they have brought another coach which makes some people think that Bayern Munich is ready to win a trophy, well I think we should calm down and wait the league should start and see what Bayern Munich and the new coach is capable of doing and we can judge them from that.

Best example for that is or was Union Berlin last season even they dont have sold there players and got a few more players to there team.
Nobody have expect such a drop in performance compared to the season before last , where they was on the top 4 on the table.
But i guess that this will not happen to Leverkusen and Alonso , maybe they will lose some games where the luck last season they got a draw.

I also quite agree to say that Bayern Munich is a team that must be watched out for by every other team in the Bundesliga, including Bayer Leverkusen itself. Because besides it is not necessarily possible for Xabi Alanso to repeat what he did last season in the Bundesliga through Leverkusen, the Bayern Munich team itself can also change to be different next season even with a new coach. Because Kompany is only tasked with developing and polishing the players who are already experienced enough at Bayern Munich with more suitable tactics so that Munich will not be left behind again like last season.

Appointing Vincent Kompany as manager is bigger gambling for Bayern Munich with their speculation next season because less experience and he failed last season after relegating Bunrley to EFL Championship.
Vincent Kompany had bad experienced with his career manager after dropping his previous team relegated and appointed as Bayern Munich manager make him get huge pressure will success for the first season bring Bayern Munich winning domestic league tittle?

Indeed as big gambling after appointing Vincent Kompany as manager, Bayern Munich management fully  support him by signing several players he want and right now under Vincent Kompany have signed several players. Not big challenge for Xabi Alonso looking Vincent Kompany record as Burnley manager last season and I think Bayern Leverkusen still become most favorite teams for defending their Bundesliga trophy for next season.

In football, sometimes we have to insert a little hope, because in football anything can happen. Although Xabi Alanso was successful in Leverkusen, it is not certain that this season he can repeat it like last season. Bayern Munich has a good squad, and Kompany cannot be said to be successful as a coach, but when he coaches Burnley and Bayern Munich, of course it will be different, especially in terms of player material. Bayern Munich players are no longer in doubt. So I don't want to underestimate Kompany, Bayern Munich must still be taken seriously by Xabi Alanso in the fight for the Bundesliga title this season.

I say that because I look at history. If you remember, Xabi Alonso previously also brought Real Sociedad B to the relegation zone, then he moved to Leverkusen, surprisingly he managed to achieve invincible. Likewise, Arsene Wenger previously also brought the Japanese team to the relegation zone, then moved to Arsenal suddenly he managed to achieve invincible too. This does not rule out the possibility that Kompany can achieve all that.

Bayern Munich seems to be gambling with Kompany, he is not a great coach and his experience is also very minimal, but Bayern Munich is still determined to bring him in even though his biography as a coach is nothing special. Bayern Munich will certainly face difficulties in Kompany first season as coach, the increasing competition due to the increased performance of their rivals is a big challenge for Bayern Munich who want to win the Bundesliga again.
Xabi Alonso is still in charge of Leverkusen, his squad is intact and he will likely bring in new players to add to the quality of his squad. Leverkusen toughness will continue because there are no changes in the squad, Kompany is certain to lose to Leverkusen because the players are in high confidence after winning the Bundesliga trophy.

However, the bookies will still be alert to the possibility that will return and here Bayern Munich certainly will not remain silent after their seasonal title was won by Leverkusen last season. I think with odds that small it is still worth betting on but I also doubt whether Bayern Munich can break Leverkusen's dominance since last season which has been tireless in not suffering a single defeat.

One thing is for sure, all circumstances will change if one of these teams is unlucky and there are many factors that can influence it. It could be that Vincent Kompany is starting to be able to read Xabi Alonso's game and that will be an unexpected loss for Leverkusen later. On the other hand, if Bayern Munich has no way to stop Leverkusen then it is certain that Xabi Alonso will bring his team to back to back Bundesliga. So from me, I prefer to bet on Leverkusen once again and even with odds that much it will be very fun.

Indeed, we should ignore the results of preseason matches and even if we want to make an analysis, so we better see from how they play or the strategies they use and also the players they send down. If we only look at the results of the match, then it is not right, because during a match like this they do not talk about the results but rather to see from the process. If they are concerned with the final results then it is not good, because they will do everything possible and it is at risk for players.

Not felt after we are at the end of the season and watching the last match last season, now we are now in a phase where all clubs make preparations including doing preseason matches. I can't wait to wait for the new season to come, I want to see a match every week and also make a bet in several bands on every week.

Next season is going to be a nightmare for Bayern Munich. Because they don't have a good coach anymore and Kompany can't race with Leverkusen at all. On the other hand, Leverkusen is not much stronger since they didn't lose any players but they hired some players, and Xabi Alonso is even more experienced and can perform much better than last season.
The wrong decision Bayern Munich made was about their coach and they should be lucky to get good results while they are racing with Leverkusen.
  

Sometimes it happens that teams can become champions but the next season they can't repeat the same thing, often it happens because teams sell their players, but Alonso was able to keep all the players and was even active in the transfer market, which gives hope that Bayer will be just as strong. Such low odds on Bayern can be because they rarely have bad seasons and mostly dominate the Bundesliga.

Most of us in this forum criticized Kompany for not having experience managing a big club like Bayern Munich, but he has proven us wrong in the last two friendly games they have played, winning their first and drawing their last against Düren. However, many people believe that Kompany will be Bayern Munich's worst coach, but I believe it is too early to conclude that just because he failed at his former Premier League team does not guarantee that he will achieve the same results at Bayern Munich, this is the best team in the German league, and they are providing Kompany with the necessary players, so how can we doubt his ability to succeed next season? I believe Kompany will be successful next season with the talented players provided for him.

Furthermore, Kompany should not leave their next game for all of the small players, Tottenham used the majority of their top players in their last game, and I believe they will play against Bayern Munich with their top players; Kompany should use average players to avoid injury, as Manchester United's four players were injured before the season even began. It will be better for Kompany not to involve all of his best players against Tottenham since next season would be very challenging for him.

What makes Alonso a great coach is that he managed to turn a mediocre team like Leverkusen into one of the best teams in Europe and even almost made history as the only team to achieve the invincible treble. I am not sure Munich will return to their best form. They just hired a new coach and will need at least one or two seasons to adapt. But on the other hand I think Leverkusen cannot just play with the same players as last season. The defeat to Atalanta exposed their weaknesses. Leverkusen players do not have good individual skills so high pressure on players will put them in difficult situations.

Whatever the result of a friendly match will not show the true performance of a team. But the trial match will be a good experience and record for the coach in implementing effective tactics. As I said before that in a friendly match the core players will not be played fully.

I know that Leicester and it is similar to what happened to Napoli in the Serie A league last season, I really consider this and also look at them, but the Odss difference is very far where Bayer Munich gets 1.49 and Bayer Leverkusen 3.50, a very far difference, even though we know that Bayer Leverkusen yesterday won and has an extraordinary history until the end of the season, is the bookmaker not in a hurry to determine the odds that have a very far difference?

I am very curious, what is the basis or what factors make a team get a much greater probability in a match that has not yet started.