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Quote from: Chilwell on November 15, 2023, 11:35:22 AM

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Well, even now it's still too early to decide on the championship but for the mid-season and the end of the season too I don't think there will be much change here as the only possible additions are Dortmund and Leipzig which every year they are always in the Champions League zone and join the competition.
Last season there were a few other clubs that could have been in the mix but for now dark horse clubs like Freiburg and Union are still underperforming so maybe they will be excluded now.
For VFB they had a great start to the season and we saw that they improved a lot this season but in the last few games we saw how they started to have problems so I would also rule them out.

It definitely too early to decide the champion, so many things have changed in this season just as if they substituted each other, take a look at union Berlin that finished last season in fourth position are now in last position when match is still in 11 game while VfB Stuttgart that were battling not to relegate are now sitting comfortably in third point living behind second runner-up of last season with two points interval and Leipzig in the fourth position have one point in between, VfB Stuttgart performance this season show how serious the want to make it to champion league next season.

Football is just so unpredictable these days; most low-level teams are now performing really well and beating those considered to be of greater quality than them. The Bundesliga has always been a thrilling competition to watch, despite the fact that the league title has always been shared by Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund, with Bayern Munich winning the majority of the time since the league's inception. However, due to how competitive the league is, the teams that hold the second to fourth positions are always rotating. I believe this season we will see new clubs that will make it to the top four and qualify for the champions league next season. If most of the smaller teams showing expertise in their games are consistent till next year, they will find themselves in the next season’s champions league.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 15, 2023, 02:30:09 PM

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It is obvious that there is a problem in Union Berlin. They played 11 matches and had 2 wins and 9 losses. They don't have a single draw so far. Union Berlin is at a level far from last year and since they are the last team in the league, the fault lies primarily with the coach. They were one of the strong teams in the Bundesliga and I'm sure they will start to recover soon.

Why hasn't the board fired Sébastien Bönig as head coach because I'm really bewildered, what have they accomplished this season other than dismal outcomes and frequent humiliation against opponents? I believe Union Berlin has the energy to battle back this season; they must give everything they have if they want to win games and improve their table position. They're at the bottom, which is devastating information for the club. However the fans will show their support in all rounds, atleast it will do some help and ginger the players.

If Union Berlin does not have good progress in the few remaining matches until the season break, then of course Union Berlin will really have to make a major overhaul in the January transfer market. Because if not, then Union Berlin will be certain to be relegated at the end of this season, because of course it will be a difficult job if Union Berlin maintains its squad composition like this until the end of the season. Indeed, there is still the second half of the season to recover but still, this factor will not be enough for Union Berlin to get out of the relegation zone as time goes on throughout this season.

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Quote from: bering on November 15, 2023, 01:22:58 PM

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Let's look at the bottom of the table occupied by Union Berlin. They are in the Bundesliga after being successfully promoted in the 2019/2020 season, as a promotion club, their performance can compete with clubs that have been in the highest caste of German football, even they can compete in the middle of the table, and in my opinion it is something very extraordinary. More than that, even they can improve their position every season and the most recent is when they can finish in the top 4 last season. Now they are at the bottom of the table, it is a very significant decline that they show. with their experience of rising from the second caste, they should make it a motivation to be able to rise again.

If talking about Union Berlin before this season they have rapid progress in Bundesliga and since got promoted on 2019 Union Berlin can able to improved their position for each years and one of their best achievement is last season when they can able to finish at 4th place and playing at champion league and actually Union Berlin was attempt to improved their squad quality with bought some of new players this summer but apparently just like i said before this is their biggest mistakes because those players were unable to adapt quickly with Union Berlin and it makes their performance decline and currently they have to avoiding relegation zone but there is still a time for them to survive in Bundesliga and let see whether they can able to avoiding relegation zone at the end of season or Union Berlin will be relegated to Bundesliga 2

The delay of some plyers in the adaptation process is one of the reasons why they play not like usual and even that is a very bad decline.
I think it's too early to talk and question whether they will be relegated this season or not. With reference to the remaining matches in the Bundesliga, it is still very much and we are now not yet in the first half of the season. There are still many opportunities for them to get out of the zone they are in now. Their points gap is also not that far, and when looking at the competition at the bottom there are also many clubs that are struggling to find their best performance, and that's more than 5 clubs.

Quote from: hahay on November 15, 2023, 01:35:33 PM

It is indeed very unfortunate for Union Berlin in this season, because Union Berlin is having a very severe decline in performance this season and of course,it is a bad situation for Union Berlin this moment. Also, although currently Union Berlin has 2 win result but still, Union Berlin is at the bottom of the table because Union Berlin is getting prolonged defeats so far this season. So ya, if for example Union Berlin can reduce the defeat with a draw, then of course it will be better for Union Berlin. So yes, Union Berlin should rise, even though it is not able to make a victory in every match, but it should be able to Union Berlin to get a draw more often than losing.

Oh yes, I just realized that they have never tasted a draw this season in the Bundesliga.
If you compare draws and defeats, then it's true that draws are better. But in some circumstances, a draw is a defeat and still I think a win is something they should get.
I remember how Borussia Dortmund failed last season. Yes, it was because they got a draw in their last match which ultimately made them fail to be able to win the title from Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 15, 2023, 01:56:04 PM

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As far as I remember, no Union Berlin players were released last summer and their squad was still intact like the previous season and if anyone left it was a player who was not included in Urs Fischer's plans. Key players such as Sheraldo Becker and Kevin Behrens are still at Union Berlin and both were top scorers last season for Union Berlin. But not only that, Union Berlin also brought in quite good players such as Robin Gosens from Inter and David Datro Fofana from Chelsea. Of course, Urs Fischer brought in this player to strengthen his attack line and midfield, but it hasn't been successful enough until now. Union Berlin still has a long way to go in the Bundesliga and they can actually still enter the top 10 if they show the same performance as last season.

What are the boards waiting for? They should take drastic actions by sacking Union Berlin headcoach, Sebastian Bönig and reselect a new manager that will fit in his position and upgrade the team. Union Berlin is ranked bottom of the Bundesliga table with poor result this season. Die Eisernen started this season with impressive performance, recording 8 goals scored in the early games of Bundesliga, watching them now at the bottom is absolutely devastating, they lack confidence and consistency in league games but they can still recover because there's estimated time for them to do so.

What has actually happened to Union Berlin this season, where is the consistency and confident they had last season, what had happened to Urs Fisher to the extent that Union Berlin are trying to change him after losing 13 games out of 14 games for both the domestic and champion league now they are deciding to remove him from head coach, to me this decision they make is fine because the have no option rather than to change him, the club have even tolerated much from him by giving him time whether they will be any changes but not, even Urs Fisher should understand because there is not any option, and this decision is best for the improvement of the club.

It is obvious that there is a problem in Union Berlin. They played 11 matches and had 2 wins and 9 losses. They don't have a single draw so far. Union Berlin is at a level far from last year and since they are the last team in the league, the fault lies primarily with the coach. They were one of the strong teams in the Bundesliga and I'm sure they will start to recover soon.

This is the problem with you people, if a coach doesn't deliver for once or has a very poor performance, you start taking it too far. Blaming Urs Fischer alone without letting the players take the fair share of the blame is partial, this guy had been there for years when Union Berlin was maintaining some good spot on the table (about 7th and upward). It's so bad this time for the club though and firing him might be the right choice for a fresh breath and handling but it would be so unfair to quickly forget all the good contributions he had while heading the club. The least rated in the first division table is so unforgivable truly but I believe the issue is deeper than we think and I wonder what Marco Grote and Marie-Louise Eta will do this time that things look too ugly for them. Nonetheless, I hope the change can speak to the players' morale this time.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on November 15, 2023, 01:56:04 PM

It is obvious that there is a problem in Union Berlin. They played 11 matches and had 2 wins and 9 losses. They don't have a single draw so far. Union Berlin is at a level far from last year and since they are the last team in the league, the fault lies primarily with the coach. They were one of the strong teams in the Bundesliga and I'm sure they will start to recover soon.

Why hasn't the board fired Sébastien Bönig as head coach because I'm really bewildered, what have they accomplished this season other than dismal outcomes and frequent humiliation against opponents? I believe Union Berlin has the energy to battle back this season; they must give everything they have if they want to win games and improve their table position. They're at the bottom, which is devastating information for the club. However the fans will show their support in all rounds, atleast it will do some help and ginger the players.

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The difference between Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund was that Leverkusen came back from 0-2 down against Bayern Munich, which is really good for the Bundesliga in general, whereas Dortmund had a big chance against Bayern at home and messed it up so badly, I gave Dortmund the benefit of the doubt and was hoping for them to play their best game and give Bayern Munich a hard time, but after that defeat I knew that this season is going to be no different than any of the seasons in over a decade now. It is either Leverkusen or nobody to stop Bayern.

In line with you, there is no club that is more promising to break Bayern Munchen dominance this season than Bayer Laverkusen, Dortmund or any other team that needs a miracle other than their own efforts if they have the ambition to win the Bundesliga trophy. Throughout the club history, Laverkusen have never won the Bundesliga, I see their best opportunity is this season. However, this is not easy to do, because we know that Thomas Tuchel squad has all the attributes to defend the championship trophy again this season.

On the other hand, if Xabi squad is still unbeaten for half the season, then I am quite sure they will be able to realize their dream of winning a trophy. However, we always see that sometimes the storm of injuries throws all the club ambitions into disarray. If we can avoid the storm of injuries then everything will be fine.

What I know from a long time ago is that Dortmund has always been a challenger who almost broke this dominance but always failed and even though the previous season Leverkusen was a challenger to Bayern Munich even though they also failed, this season Leverkusen has become more confident after the presence of Xabi Alonso. With this confidence, Xabi is able to provide The right strategy is to continue to maintain Leverkusen's position in first place and on the one hand, Dortmund is also starting to put pressure on Munich and it looks like Tuchel has a tough task this season.

Tuche will wake up since Leverkusen is performing well and does not want to lose any games in the league or the Champions League. I believe Xavi Alonso will aim to win the Bundesliga with Bayer Leverkusen this season. I don't think Bayern Munich will be able to stop them now because they are in a stronger position this season and Dortmund failed to defeat Stuttgart. I'm not sure when Dortmund will find their form in the league because they did well last season but then made mistakes and Bayern Munich won the titles, and their next match is against Mönchengladbach, let's see if they can compete with them, and they have tough matches ahead of them because they will face AC Milan in the Champions League and Bayern Leverkusen in the league I don't think Dortmund can win the games and stop Bayern Leverkusen from topping the league, but it won't be easy for Dortmund to draw or win the match because if Leverkusen make any mistakes Bayern Munich will top the league and Tuchel is very talented coach he will be very hard to lose matches again.

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Quote from: Chilwell on November 15, 2023, 08:59:06 AM

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As far as I remember, no Union Berlin players were released last summer and their squad was still intact like the previous season and if anyone left it was a player who was not included in Urs Fischer's plans. Key players such as Sheraldo Becker and Kevin Behrens are still at Union Berlin and both were top scorers last season for Union Berlin. But not only that, Union Berlin also brought in quite good players such as Robin Gosens from Inter and David Datro Fofana from Chelsea. Of course, Urs Fischer brought in this player to strengthen his attack line and midfield, but it hasn't been successful enough until now. Union Berlin still has a long way to go in the Bundesliga and they can actually still enter the top 10 if they show the same performance as last season.

What are the boards waiting for? They should take drastic actions by sacking Union Berlin headcoach, Sebastian Bönig and reselect a new manager that will fit in his position and upgrade the team. Union Berlin is ranked bottom of the Bundesliga table with poor result this season. Die Eisernen started this season with impressive performance, recording 8 goals scored in the early games of Bundesliga, watching them now at the bottom is absolutely devastating, they lack confidence and consistency in league games but they can still recover because there's estimated time for them to do so.

What has actually happened to Union Berlin this season, where is the consistency and confident they had last season, what had happened to Urs Fisher to the extent that Union Berlin are trying to change him after losing 13 games out of 14 games for both the domestic and champion league now they are deciding to remove him from head coach, to me this decision they make is fine because the have no option rather than to change him, the club have even tolerated much from him by giving him time whether they will be any changes but not, even Urs Fisher should understand because there is not any option, and this decision is best for the improvement of the club.

It is obvious that there is a problem in Union Berlin. They played 11 matches and had 2 wins and 9 losses. They don't have a single draw so far. Union Berlin is at a level far from last year and since they are the last team in the league, the fault lies primarily with the coach. They were one of the strong teams in the Bundesliga and I'm sure they will start to recover soon.

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Quote from: Hvdv on November 15, 2023, 01:29:08 PM

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Well, even now it's still too early to decide on the championship but for the mid-season and the end of the season too I don't think there will be much change here as the only possible additions are Dortmund and Leipzig which every year they are always in the Champions League zone and join the competition.
Last season there were a few other clubs that could have been in the mix but for now dark horse clubs like Freiburg and Union are still underperforming so maybe they will be excluded now.
For VFB they had a great start to the season and we saw that they improved a lot this season but in the last few games we saw how they started to have problems so I would also rule them out.

It definitely too early to decide the champion, so many things have changed in this season just as if they substituted each other, take a look at union Berlin that finished last season in fourth position are now in last position when match is still in 11 game while VfB Stuttgart that were battling not to relegate are now sitting comfortably in third point living behind second runner-up of last season with two points interval and Leipzig in the fourth position have one point in between, VfB Stuttgart performance this season show how serious the want to make it to champion league next season.

It may not be right to compare last year with this year because the teams have changed a lot. Transfers were made, new coaches arrived. Changes have been made in all teams and the example of Union Berlin shows us this. Last year's performance and this year's performance may be very different. While Bayern maintains its second place, Leverkusen maintains the leadership with Xabi. This year is going out of the ordinary.

I think so too, this season Bundesliga is running outside the ordinary because of the emergence of a new axis of strength namely Laverkusen. Dortmund habit of being a strong competitor to Munchen, but until the 11th week, Xabi Alonso squad replaced their role in challenging for the championship trophy. Dormund seemed to be tired after trying for a decade but always failing.

Ups and downs in performance cannot be avoided, I think there are many factors behind the decline in a team performance. Union Berlin is indeed a perfect example of this, they surprised everyone by qualifying for the UCL last season, but have now failed miserably in both competitions.

I agree that at the moment it is too early to guess which club will win the trophy at the end of the season, many things will happen in the remainder of the season. Xabi with Laverkusen was phenomenal, but Munchen consistency for a decade is not an easy thing to break.

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Urs Fischer is coach at Union Berlin since 2018. He achieved promotion and managed to play internationally. But it seems he is not the right coach for the current crisis. Okay, I have already written it here, the problems are also due to the transfer policy during the summer break. But Union Berlin should slowly start scoring 3 points again. The international break should be used intensively to prepare for the next game.

This International break will be short unfortunately so only one week will be off,nevertheless though Union Berlin can use this break to their advantage although judging from the actual performance I doubt anything will change.I also agree the main problem is not the coach but the transfer window which they let go quite some good players in it,now the actual group of players is struggling a lot to get good results both domestically in the Bundesliga and also in the Champions League.I don't think changing coach is the right solution to this crisis.

That is good, I personally do not like long international breaks, usually that doesn't end up with anything good anyway. Players are gone and they get tired and they get injured and then they come back and the club that pays MILLIONS of dollars for these players suffer the consequences, I do not like that.

Why would my club get the short end of the stick for an injured or tired player because he went to his national team? I mean why am I paying 5 million or 10 million to a player, so he could sit out, just because he got injured at national team? In that case, I honestly believe that the national team should be paying for the salary of the player if he got injured there. Look at Neymar's situation, definitely unfair.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 15, 2023, 12:32:24 PM

Let's look at the bottom of the table occupied by Union Berlin. They are in the Bundesliga after being successfully promoted in the 2019/2020 season, as a promotion club, their performance can compete with clubs that have been in the highest caste of German football, even they can compete in the middle of the table, and in my opinion it is something very extraordinary. More than that, even they can improve their position every season and the most recent is when they can finish in the top 4 last season. Now they are at the bottom of the table, it is a very significant decline that they show. with their experience of rising from the second caste, they should make it a motivation to be able to rise again.

It is indeed very unfortunate for Union Berlin in this season, because Union Berlin is having a very severe decline in performance this season and of course,it is a bad situation for Union Berlin this moment. Also, although currently Union Berlin has 2 win result but still, Union Berlin is at the bottom of the table because Union Berlin is getting prolonged defeats so far this season. So ya, if for example Union Berlin can reduce the defeat with a draw, then of course it will be better for Union Berlin. So yes, Union Berlin should rise, even though it is not able to make a victory in every match, but it should be able to Union Berlin to get a draw more often than losing.

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Quote from: Chilwell on November 15, 2023, 11:35:22 AM

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In my opinion, it is too early if we judge that only the two top ranked teams at the moment will win the Bundesliga, because the league has only been running for 11 matches, meaning that not even half of the season has been underway, in my opinion there are teams below them that could still move up to the top rank to win the league. This season, including Borrussia dortmund, which is only ranked 5th, currently there is a chance, even though they have only got 21 points, they are 10 points behind Bayer Leverkusen, who have 31 points, the possibility is not too small for them because this is only the start of the season.

Well, even now it's still too early to decide on the championship but for the mid-season and the end of the season too I don't think there will be much change here as the only possible additions are Dortmund and Leipzig which every year they are always in the Champions League zone and join the competition.
Last season there were a few other clubs that could have been in the mix but for now dark horse clubs like Freiburg and Union are still underperforming so maybe they will be excluded now.
For VFB they had a great start to the season and we saw that they improved a lot this season but in the last few games we saw how they started to have problems so I would also rule them out.

It definitely too early to decide the champion, so many things have changed in this season just as if they substituted each other, take a look at union Berlin that finished last season in fourth position are now in last position when match is still in 11 game while VfB Stuttgart that were battling not to relegate are now sitting comfortably in third point living behind second runner-up of last season with two points interval and Leipzig in the fourth position have one point in between, VfB Stuttgart performance this season show how serious the want to make it to champion league next season.

It may not be right to compare last year with this year because the teams have changed a lot. Transfers were made, new coaches arrived. Changes have been made in all teams and the example of Union Berlin shows us this. Last year's performance and this year's performance may be very different. While Bayern maintains its second place, Leverkusen maintains the leadership with Xabi. This year is going out of the ordinary.

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Quote from: imamusma on November 15, 2023, 10:42:00 AM

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The difference between Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund was that Leverkusen came back from 0-2 down against Bayern Munich, which is really good for the Bundesliga in general, whereas Dortmund had a big chance against Bayern at home and messed it up so badly, I gave Dortmund the benefit of the doubt and was hoping for them to play their best game and give Bayern Munich a hard time, but after that defeat I knew that this season is going to be no different than any of the seasons in over a decade now. It is either Leverkusen or nobody to stop Bayern.

In line with you, there is no club that is more promising to break Bayern Munchen dominance this season than Bayer Laverkusen, Dortmund or any other team that needs a miracle other than their own efforts if they have the ambition to win the Bundesliga trophy. Throughout the club history, Laverkusen have never won the Bundesliga, I see their best opportunity is this season. However, this is not easy to do, because we know that Thomas Tuchel squad has all the attributes to defend the championship trophy again this season.

On the other hand, if Xabi squad is still unbeaten for half the season, then I am quite sure they will be able to realize their dream of winning a trophy. However, we always see that sometimes the storm of injuries throws all the club ambitions into disarray. If we can avoid the storm of injuries then everything will be fine.

What I know from a long time ago is that Dortmund has always been a challenger who almost broke this dominance but always failed and even though the previous season Leverkusen was a challenger to Bayern Munich even though they also failed, this season Leverkusen has become more confident after the presence of Xabi Alonso. With this confidence, Xabi is able to provide The right strategy is to continue to maintain Leverkusen's position in first place and on the one hand, Dortmund is also starting to put pressure on Munich and it looks like Tuchel has a tough task this season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 15, 2023, 12:32:24 PM

Let's look at the bottom of the table occupied by Union Berlin. They are in the Bundesliga after being successfully promoted in the 2019/2020 season, as a promotion club, their performance can compete with clubs that have been in the highest caste of German football, even they can compete in the middle of the table, and in my opinion it is something very extraordinary. More than that, even they can improve their position every season and the most recent is when they can finish in the top 4 last season. Now they are at the bottom of the table, it is a very significant decline that they show. with their experience of rising from the second caste, they should make it a motivation to be able to rise again.

If talking about Union Berlin before this season they have rapid progress in Bundesliga and since got promoted on 2019 Union Berlin can able to improved their position for each years and one of their best achievement is last season when they can able to finish at 4th place and playing at champion league and actually Union Berlin was attempt to improved their squad quality with bought some of new players this summer but apparently just like i said before this is their biggest mistakes because those players were unable to adapt quickly with Union Berlin and it makes their performance decline and currently they have to avoiding relegation zone but there is still a time for them to survive in Bundesliga and let see whether they can able to avoiding relegation zone at the end of season or Union Berlin will be relegated to Bundesliga 2

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Let's look at the bottom of the table occupied by Union Berlin. They are in the Bundesliga after being successfully promoted in the 2019/2020 season, as a promotion club, their performance can compete with clubs that have been in the highest caste of German football, even they can compete in the middle of the table, and in my opinion it is something very extraordinary. More than that, even they can improve their position every season and the most recent is when they can finish in the top 4 last season. Now they are at the bottom of the table, it is a very significant decline that they show. with their experience of rising from the second caste, they should make it a motivation to be able to rise again.

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Bayer leverkusen has been showing great performance. And that is because the coach has ultimate belief on his tactics. I don't think in recent times, we actually saw a single team staying at the top of the table, consistently in this competition other than Bayern Munich. Even any team has shown some hope, they have dropped points after 5/6 matches. Even if we look at the table now, we will see that no other team has actually been consistent. At least not consistent enough to give good competition to Bayern Munich. I would be really happy to see Bayern Leverkusen win the Bundesliga title.

Almost no team is able to play consistently and maintain its position at the top of the standings apart from Bayern Munich and we have seen Alonso emerge as a coach who has kept a very good clean sheet for Leverkusen by relying on the quality of his players. This provides a special warning to Tuchel as coach of Bayern Munich because when they did not give other teams opportunities in the previous season as happened to Dortmund then Leverkusen will try to break the dominance of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga this season.

Alonso still has a long match schedule in the Bundesliga, even though he is leading the standings that doesn't mean he is safe because we have seen how Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga title at the hands of Dortmund in their last match. Although most people say it was luck for Bayern Munich because Dortmund made a mistake. Alonso must learn more so as not to become the second team to lose the opportunity to win the Bundesliga like Dortmund.

Yes, I absolutely agree. Just because his team is leading the table doesn't mean they are also going to finish on the same note. I believe they are actually going to face some problems in the middle of the season. And I think that is mostly going to be because of injuries. That's my prediction. Obviously, I do not want that to happen. I want Bayer Leverkusen to actually win the Bundesliga title this season. We talk about Dortmund, I have lost hope about them. I don't think they are actually going to be able to achieve anything in this season.

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It's difficult to talk about Union Berlin at the moment because they're a very different club than they were before and indeed apart from their busy schedule this season I also agree with what you're saying because Union this season seem to be breaking the philosophy they've built since the beginning which is precisely the change that makes them even worse.
Not only in domestic competitions now but also competitions as big as the Champions League they are like a complement now. Honestly I expected the same Union as last season but now it seems like expecting that with the condition of the Union like this will be very difficult to happen.

For this season to be honest there is absolutely nothing to expect from Union Berlin, the difference in their changes is very significant if we see or compare them in the current season and last season. Last season they had a very good season and could compete in the top five area of the standings by finishing in the top 4, with their success last season I thought indirectly it would be a pretty good indication to go through this season very well, but apparently the facts that happened were far from what was expected especially for their fans.

This season Union Berlin is very bad and far from luck, but yes, this is the fact that actually happened, like a team, basically there will definitely be changes either for the better or vice versa for the worse as they are experiencing now. In my opinion, there is nothing more to expect from them either in the Bundesliga or in the UCL.

With a situation where 11 matches ended with 2 wins and 9 defeats, it is clearly very difficult to expect Union to return to their prime last season but of course we can still expect Union to get out of the relegation zone at this time because with outstanding achievements in each season for the past few seasons, it would be a shame if they had to be relegated to Bundesliga 2 this season because the gap is clearly felt if it happens this season.
They still can't secure how the rhythm of the game is done. Their attack line is bad their defense is also bad which actually makes the current Union very different than before.
Because if you look at this season, it lookslike Union is only use as a goal barn for the opponents who face it.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on November 15, 2023, 10:55:14 AM

Quote from: eebkhs on November 15, 2023, 06:42:10 AM

In my opinion, it is too early if we judge that only the two top ranked teams at the moment will win the Bundesliga, because the league has only been running for 11 matches, meaning that not even half of the season has been underway, in my opinion there are teams below them that could still move up to the top rank to win the league. This season, including Borrussia dortmund, which is only ranked 5th, currently there is a chance, even though they have only got 21 points, they are 10 points behind Bayer Leverkusen, who have 31 points, the possibility is not too small for them because this is only the start of the season.

Well, even now it's still too early to decide on the championship but for the mid-season and the end of the season too I don't think there will be much change here as the only possible additions are Dortmund and Leipzig which every year they are always in the Champions League zone and join the competition.
Last season there were a few other clubs that could have been in the mix but for now dark horse clubs like Freiburg and Union are still underperforming so maybe they will be excluded now.
For VFB they had a great start to the season and we saw that they improved a lot this season but in the last few games we saw how they started to have problems so I would also rule them out.

It definitely too early to decide the champion, so many things have changed in this season just as if they substituted each other, take a look at union Berlin that finished last season in fourth position are now in last position when match is still in 11 game while VfB Stuttgart that were battling not to relegate are now sitting comfortably in third point living behind second runner-up of last season with two points interval and Leipzig in the fourth position have one point in between, VfB Stuttgart performance this season show how serious the want to make it to champion league next season.

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Quote from: eebkhs on November 15, 2023, 06:42:10 AM

In my opinion, it is too early if we judge that only the two top ranked teams at the moment will win the Bundesliga, because the league has only been running for 11 matches, meaning that not even half of the season has been underway, in my opinion there are teams below them that could still move up to the top rank to win the league. This season, including Borrussia dortmund, which is only ranked 5th, currently there is a chance, even though they have only got 21 points, they are 10 points behind Bayer Leverkusen, who have 31 points, the possibility is not too small for them because this is only the start of the season.

Well, even now it's still too early to decide on the championship but for the mid-season and the end of the season too I don't think there will be much change here as the only possible additions are Dortmund and Leipzig which every year they are always in the Champions League zone and join the competition.
Last season there were a few other clubs that could have been in the mix but for now dark horse clubs like Freiburg and Union are still underperforming so maybe they will be excluded now.
For VFB they had a great start to the season and we saw that they improved a lot this season but in the last few games we saw how they started to have problems so I would also rule them out.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 15, 2023, 06:56:05 AM

What are the boards waiting for? They should take drastic actions by sacking Union Berlin headcoach, Sebastian Bönig and reselect a new manager that will fit in his position and upgrade the team. Union Berlin is ranked bottom of the Bundesliga table with poor result this season. Die Eisernen started this season with impressive performance, recording 8 goals scored in the early games of Bundesliga, watching them now at the bottom is absolutely devastating, they lack confidence and consistency in league games but they can still recover because there's estimated time for them to do so.

With what is happening now, it seems like there is no longer any hope for the Union Berlin team other than them improving this team on a large scale, but I think changing the coach is not something that guarantees changes for the better.
Maybe Union Berlin's management should provide and implement other options to be able to lift this team from its downturn, bringing in as quality players as possible.
But to be honest, I am very surprised by Union Berlin's performance this season, they are getting worse than last season, this is something that rarely happens to teams, they should be able to improve and get better from what happened last season.

Bad results in UCL and bundesliga has become strong proof that if union berlin has lost all of its confidence. The club keeps play like shit. No chance for berlin to go up again in bundesliga. The competition is now about bayern leverkusen vs bayern munich.
I wonder what reason that makes berlin dropped so hard like that. I never imagine this club would be playing so badly in all of competitions. There's no a lot of changes happened in the club.
This is weird. Really really weird mate. berlin becomes toothless and that's why i never pick this club again. It was always bring us into the lose.

Picking berlin means ready to lose our money. It's hard to understand the way of berlin playing the game. Berlin may keep snowball with its bad performance. I expect nothing from this club.
Staying at the middle position is good enough for berlin.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 15, 2023, 09:56:51 AM

The difference between Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund was that Leverkusen came back from 0-2 down against Bayern Munich, which is really good for the Bundesliga in general, whereas Dortmund had a big chance against Bayern at home and messed it up so badly, I gave Dortmund the benefit of the doubt and was hoping for them to play their best game and give Bayern Munich a hard time, but after that defeat I knew that this season is going to be no different than any of the seasons in over a decade now. It is either Leverkusen or nobody to stop Bayern.

In line with you, there is no club that is more promising to break Bayern Munchen dominance this season than Bayer Laverkusen, Dortmund or any other team that needs a miracle other than their own efforts if they have the ambition to win the Bundesliga trophy. Throughout the club history, Laverkusen have never won the Bundesliga, I see their best opportunity is this season. However, this is not easy to do, because we know that Thomas Tuchel squad has all the attributes to defend the championship trophy again this season.

On the other hand, if Xabi squad is still unbeaten for half the season, then I am quite sure they will be able to realize their dream of winning a trophy. However, we always see that sometimes the storm of injuries throws all the club ambitions into disarray. If we can avoid the storm of injuries then everything will be fine.

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