Topic: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅ - page 4. (Read 1196 times)

There are a number of users on BitcoinTalk already use our service. Maybe they can shoot you a private message.

Ok, I understand your point and since you're ready to do the right to resolve any negative feedback everything should be okay. However, some forum users won't still like the idea though.
Bolt card can use as closed-loop and also has debit card performance. However, the Debit card performance is only exclusive to the Bolt card registered customers.
I like the idea of your service being KYC-free and I would like to know if the card has no restriction worldwide.

can anyone vouch for the service ?

This thread was moved from another place to the announcement by the admins, and the old one got locked. Unfortunately, the old thread had a lot of off-topic discussion that was going nowhere. Was advised by other members to create a self-moderated thread, this thread has no deleted replies and all replies can be seen in history via Ninja as you may know.

Regarding Bolt Card, never heard of it before but after some research it's not de bit card that can be used with the Visa or Mastercard Network. It's I think a closed-loop card.

I don't know why you lock the previous thread and choose to create a self-moderate thread but the decision you make will only make the reputable user of this forum have some curious thoughts about your project.
Your project is new and you have to welcome both good and scorn questions because that is the way, people learn to know the genuine of a project and if you're not ready for this how will you convince people you guys are for real?
You need to make people know why they have to use your service instead of Bolt Card.
It is good that you're thinking of doing a signature campaign in the future but it will be better if you can asap to establish your project.

We may do a signature campaign in the future on Bitcointalk.

At this time we only offer Virtual cards, apple/google support for offline payments will come this month. 

The business of virtual cards is quite a competitive one, to give yourselves a winning chance why don't you engage someone to run a signature or avatar campaign of 3 to 5 guys maybe more depending on how much you willing to put into the marketing side of the business.

Btw is CoinPayCard only about virtual cards or you taking orders for physical cards as well ??

Honestly, self-moderated topic is not a big deal now it was made for a reason. Deleted replies can be seen on the ninjastic.space's archive^[1], anyone who has an issue regarding of deleted replies on specific thread can create a separate thread on reputation board or even on scam accusation.

[1] https://ninjastic.space/topic/5432781

Hi Shasan,

It’s to prevent off-topic replies. If there was any negative feedback we would do everything to resolve them instead of deleting them. As you may know, you can also see all deleted messages in history. This topic has no deleted messages.


To answer your question: Yes, you can receive small amounts to verify accounts at different merchants. 9/10 they will just temporarily hold a small amount the verify that the cards works.

Edit; Btw, your card holds USD. USDT is only used for funding your on our platform, we automatically convert it to USD.

First of all, as it is a service thread, there might be a few negative comments and you may delete that negative comments. Why you posted such a self-moderated topic?

For verification purposes PayPal/freelancer and many more sites send a few cents usually less than 1$ to the card, in this case, will this small portion of the fund will be available to your card or we will be able to know if there is a specific amount of funds available eg: 0.02$

I am asking these questions:
1. The amount is less than the fee and
2. The website eg PayPal/freelancer won't send USDT they may send direct USD dollars.

Our cards work just like regular debit cards, there should be no specific reason why our cards could get blocked. But keep in mind, every retailer has their own acceptance policy. For example, retailer A does not accept card with a US billing address or issued in the U.S.

- Regarding reCaptcha; we never worked with Hcaptcha, but we will look in to it and possible replace google reCaptcha
- Regarding our corporate info; at this time we don't want to share that data just for privacy reasons. We will probably in the future, for now that's not something we planned to be honest.

Let's be fair, any data on card issued or user base can be dispute/manipulated unless we prove it by showing our database (what not will happen of course) so this data will remain private.

In that locked thread there was a question that was asked by Pmalek: Do these cards work worldwide without exceptions or have you noticed some service providers/countries reject them?

Have you noticed anything of concern or as far as you are aware the virtual cards simply work the same way as physical ones when using them online?

Can you provide some comments about these points:

* Website sign-up page uses reCaptcha (from Google) rather than Hcaptcha or simple bot checker that does not harvest data
* Website terms and conditions do not state who is behind the project and who an end user can take to Court in the event there is an attempt at litigation. Ideally it would have been a company or incorporation

Would you consider replacing reCaptcha in your register/login pages? If you decide to stick with it can you explain why you would want to do so over using Hcaptcha or a simple bot. Also, why are there no ownership details listed in your website terms and conditions pages?

I can understand reluctance on your part if not wanting to reply to the following questions because it could be deemed as business related sensitive data and maybe you do not want competitors to know or maybe your numbers are very low but if you can reply it will give some background in to your business:

Are you able to give the number of customers on your books?
Are you able to state how many cards you have actually sold?

Your observation is correct 3 notes:
1. Our card pricing start at $99/y for a $2k monthly spend limit.
2. And correct we don't earn on card load fees, as we created this program with the card issuer directly, they wanted a higher fee because of the "risks". They also take a 30-40% cut on the card issuing fee. So lowering the prices would make it financially not worth it to issue cards.
3. It's (almost) impossible for cards to get blocked, you need to make some really shady purchases that would flag a bank compliance check, never ever we received such a request. But in the case your card get blocked, you will receive a free new one or a refund of your the remaining balance.

However, with the discount code: e6aa4a8d-a3b0-4ef3-9de8-148cdd29lnln you can get $10 off your first card.

Glad to see this thread in the Services board has been re-launched after the previous one was locked. I made a post in the now locked thread that I think you would agree could do with some clarification and feedback from you. I am looking forward to your reply:


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Regarding the service offered by AlexPCS, I recall posting in his thread a long time ago and I had serious doubts. Subsequently, some members have vouched for him after using the service and to my knowledge no scam accusations have been made against him therefore his service is considered by some as genuine and trustworthy because packages were purchased and feedback was left.

As far as CoinPayCard is concerned, here are some initial observations which I am happy to revise if I have them wrong:

Cons
* As this is a virtual VISA card money cannot be withdrawn from ATMs
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $10 load will give $8.10 to spend
* $249 annual fee for $5000 monthly spend limit
* $499 annual fee for $10000 monthly spend limit
* At present only USDT is accepted method of payment
* Website sign-up page uses reCaptcha (from Google) rather than Hcaptcha or simple bot checker that does not harvest data
* Website terms and conditions do not state who is behind the project and who an end user can take to Court in the event there is an attempt at litigation. Ideally it would have been a company or incorporation

Pros
* Customers can register a card in any name
* No KYC required before or after registration
* Only email address is required to register
* Customers are issued a card number instantly via your website
* Customers are issued VISA cards
* Customers can add their card numbers to Apple/Android phones to use to make offline payments
* Card load fees at 4% + $1.50 means $100 load will give $94.50 to spend
* $99 annual fee for $2.000 monthly spend limit (probably just about acceptable for anonymous cards)
* Direct dealing with issuing bank, no third party intermediaries are involved
* Promise to make a full refund if cards are blocked

Suggestions
* Reduce the $99 annual fee to around $49 at least for an introductory period
* Reduce the 4% + $1.50 card load fee to 2.75% + $0.99 for an introductory period

I have always cited not having ownership details and appropriate terms and conditions as a sign of major concern and this as a negative in many ANN threads because it has potential to give scope for exit scams but several members expressed views saying it was alright for project owners to remain anonymous. Many or most signature campaign participants are promoting businesses that have anonymous owners therefore it is something that has become acceptable as the norm.

Keeping all I have mentioned in mind, I am confident enough to want to test the service soon. I will provide more comments, suggestions and ask some questions after further analysis in the coming days and look forward to reading comments from you and other members too.

edit: I noticed on your website you stated you do not make money from the 4% + $1.50 load fee and that is set by the card provider therefore my suggestions about lowering the price for an introductory period will understandably not be looked at.
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Update:

We just change the way how our platform works and we added new payment methods.

We added the following payment methods:
Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, USDC, DOGE, SHIB, BCH, LINK, BAT and ALGO

(Monero will be added next week, after testing is done)

Previously, you need to make 2 payments, 1 for creating your card and 1 for funding your card. Now we changed the flow.

Our new flow:
1. Fund your account using crypto.
2. Buy a card using your account balance.
3. Top-Up your card using account balance.

We also change the way you pay the fees: (FEES ARE THE SAME).
1. When funding your account, you pay the 4% fee.
2. When you Top-Up your card, only then pay the $1.50 fee.

If you have any questions, let us know.