since you are using soil that needed to be replaced for a certain period of time , i think it's better to use glass or Wood as base container than plastic because that has reaction in the sun and may contaminate the drinking water you wanted to push here.
we are talking about health here so best to have it in the rightway or manner.
Topic: Get drinkable water from rain (Read 198 times)
Interesting.
How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Boiling the water can help to eliminate any parasites,germs and bacteria but the water may contain polluted particles like heavy metals and chemical substances which needs certain purification before making it completely safe to drink.How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Heavy metals and chemicals, can be filtered by soil.
Germs, parasites etc. can be eliminated with copper and i think silver as well. Ancients used that.
Boiling the water works, but ruins the pH.
Must be around 7 to be ideal for drinking, and boiling it will drop it below 6.5
Well, what is the best filtration system we have? Reverse Osmosis or anything better? 
I think that plastic vases will decompose under the influence of light, temperature and time, releasing harmful substances into the water, I think you would be better off using glass containers !
There's a lot of research about this even re using the plastic bottles at some point are being prohibit , specially those who are using to restore water in refrigerators .so better use Glass bottle every time for your own health.
I think that plastic vases will decompose under the influence of light, temperature and time, releasing harmful substances into the water, I think you would be better off using glass containers !
Interesting.
How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Boiling the water can help to eliminate any parasites,germs and bacteria but the water may contain polluted particles like heavy metals and chemical substances which needs certain purification before making it completely safe to drink.How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Heavy metals and chemicals, can be filtered by soil.
Germs, parasites etc. can be eliminated with copper and i think silver as well. Ancients used that.
Boiling the water works, but ruins the pH.
Must be around 7 to be ideal for drinking, and boiling it will drop it below 6.5
Interesting.
How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Boiling the water can help to eliminate any parasites,germs and bacteria but the water may contain polluted particles like heavy metals and chemical substances which needs certain purification before making it completely safe to drink. How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
Interesting.
How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
How about boiling the water after collection and the silver part in order to be extra sure? Or you think this is not necessary and the water will be very safe to drink?
I have read about killing germs with copper, don't know about silver. I wonder how effective both will be in keeping water free from germs.
That's the point, i would not drink rain directly these days, with all that geoingeneering and other pollution.
Also i think you don't need to replace the soil if there is a plant on it.
The plant roots will clean the soil from pollutants by absorbing them
You should replace the soil if you want to filtration to be on the top quality because plants can absorb the chemical substances but not the physical so over the time the soil will get clogged which will reduce the filtration speed and quality of water we are getting. Also i think you don't need to replace the soil if there is a plant on it.
The plant roots will clean the soil from pollutants by absorbing them
I don't know why need these steps when we can drink Rain water directly , Since my Military training and even when i'm in Secondary , i drink rain water many times but i have not taste the Saltiness ? instead its richer for me .
In 21st century the rain water is not completely safe to drink directly but in emergency situation it is okay but not for regular basis because the water get more acidic nature due to the pollution so it is mandatary to filter them before drinking it. But how long this filtration will works?Sooner the soil will get clogged with the dirt so need to replace the soil after a while of usage.
There are seasons, that it won't rain a single droplet in a full month.
That may be the problem you refer to.
That may be the problem you refer to.
No, I'm taking when the rains stop completely, or come in so fast it contains seawater. My point was this is not a good idea for a prepper, as drought is one of things they prepare for.
For the preppers prepping to live off grid.
Let me know if it can work
Let me know if it can work
Great idea short term and if you don't trust local water. But don't put any long term reliance on rainwater in any one area. We have no idea how climate patterns will change.
There are seasons, that it won't rain a single droplet in a full month.
That may be the problem you refer to.
So i think you need dozens and dozens of vases to collect enough water for one full month in just a few hours of raining.
You need to be able to collect at least 30-40 Lt when it rains, to be prepared to one month of drought. (Plus the water for showering)
And when you need to drink, you fill a glass and purify it with silver at the moment.
For the preppers prepping to live off grid.
Let me know if it can work
Let me know if it can work
Great idea short term and if you don't trust local water. But don't put any long term reliance on rainwater in any one area. We have no idea how climate patterns will change.
I know that moss purifies water (we can drink water from moss even without boiling). You need to boil water for at least 20 minutes, if we doubt its quality.
There is also such a way:
If the water is heavily contaminated for some reason that it cannot be drunk, then we boil the water, and cover it with some kind of flat inclined surface on top, on which steam will condense and drain into a container standing nearby. You can make several of these things.
The easiest way is to dig a well with water. Or make a well with a pump. Or, if there are rivers / lakes / streams nearby, then you can take water from there. Or from the rain, if you have none of this (which I doubt). Then you better buy special filters that purify water. The best filter I have found (gravity filter, no water pressure) is a Swiss filter - "Katadyn Drip Filter Gravidyn". This filter - can purify any water (even contaminated with chemicals and other debris). This filter traps all germs, viruses, fungi, parasite larvae and any chemical toxic solutes. I haven't found anything better than this filter. This is the ideal thing for extreme hiking conditions. You just need this filter and any container for it (even an ordinary bottle for drinking).
There is also such a way:
If the water is heavily contaminated for some reason that it cannot be drunk, then we boil the water, and cover it with some kind of flat inclined surface on top, on which steam will condense and drain into a container standing nearby. You can make several of these things.
The easiest way is to dig a well with water. Or make a well with a pump. Or, if there are rivers / lakes / streams nearby, then you can take water from there. Or from the rain, if you have none of this (which I doubt). Then you better buy special filters that purify water. The best filter I have found (gravity filter, no water pressure) is a Swiss filter - "Katadyn Drip Filter Gravidyn". This filter - can purify any water (even contaminated with chemicals and other debris). This filter traps all germs, viruses, fungi, parasite larvae and any chemical toxic solutes. I haven't found anything better than this filter. This is the ideal thing for extreme hiking conditions. You just need this filter and any container for it (even an ordinary bottle for drinking).
This could work, but sounds like a lot of work. I think there are more efficenct ways to use rain water. My grand dad is collecting the rain water for years for his garden. He doesn't really filter it and only uses it for his plants, washing and showering and sometimes for cooking. Once you boil it you kill all the bad stuff anyway. It is quite important to have a large area to collect water from. Also there are already filters you could use directly for the water.
For showering, washing the clothes and gardening ok.But now rain water has toxins from pollution.
Your grandad had not this problem decades ago.
And the filters you mentioned probably are not natural/safe and i prefer to stick with nature possibly.
But we may discuss. Post an example filter please.
Boiling the water I'm reluctant. I've read it screws the water up, due to change in its ions or something like that.
I have still to get info on this, but I'm sure you don't get the most out of the water in that way.
This could work, but sounds like a lot of work. I think there are more efficenct ways to use rain water. My grand dad is collecting the rain water for years for his garden. He doesn't really filter it and only uses it for his plants, washing and showering and sometimes for cooking. Once you boil it you kill all the bad stuff anyway. It is quite important to have a large area to collect water from. Also there are already filters you could use directly for the water.
Many people around the world live off the land so to speak. It’s not something that I would like to do personally but you can definitely do it. Obviously it’s better to find a live water source like a river but this is an alternative way to live.
I don't know why need these steps when we can drink Rain water directly , Since my Military training and even when i'm in Secondary , i drink rain water many times but i have not taste the Saltiness ? instead its richer for me .
In 21st century the rain water is not completely safe to drink directly but in emergency situation it is okay but not for regular basis because the water get more acidic nature due to the pollution so it is mandatary to filter them before drinking it. But how long this filtration will works?Sooner the soil will get clogged with the dirt so need to replace the soil after a while of usage.
That's the point, i would not drink rain directly these days, with all that geoingeneering and other pollution.
Also i think you don't need to replace the soil if there is a plant on it.
The plant roots will clean the soil from pollutants by absorbing them
I suggest reading these articles: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=water+catchment
I don't know why need these steps when we can drink Rain water directly , Since my Military training and even when i'm in Secondary , i drink rain water many times but i have not taste the Saltiness ? instead its richer for me .
In 21st century the rain water is not completely safe to drink directly but in emergency situation it is okay but not for regular basis because the water get more acidic nature due to the pollution so it is mandatary to filter them before drinking it. But how long this filtration will works?Sooner the soil will get clogged with the dirt so need to replace the soil after a while of usage.
I think it will become a better explanation if you have better visuals. I haven't thought about it having plant above as a filter. What we have before are those mineral and rocks when I was young.
It cleans the water that we put that comes from the tap.
But I've seen this kind of filtering somewhere in Japan but they put something on the water to make it cleaner.
It cleans the water that we put that comes from the tap.
But I've seen this kind of filtering somewhere in Japan but they put something on the water to make it cleaner.
The filtering is made by the soil , not the plant.
The plant serves to clean the soil from toxic chemicals. Because plants metabolize them.
The fact that you get clean water from wells, is thanks to the fact the water passed through several meters of soil and got filtered.
That's why you get drinkable water from deep in the ground.
Using rocks under the tap means you are not living off grid.
I will look into rocks though. But you need special rocks that you can't find anywhere.
They are found in the seabed.
Thank you for that answer and you're right and on point on it because I used to drink water from the well.
Gosh, I've learned something with this.
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