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Topic: Getting closer to Halving but .. no increase ? - page 2. (Read 10303 times)

legendary
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halving still about one month more, but it seems today prices are rising fast enough. I believe this is the effect of halving, and could not imagine when later approached halving prices could increase about $550-600

All things that are happening right now with the price are all due to the upcoming block halving. A few minutes ago I wrote a post telling that the price touched $557 on Bitfinex but it now touched $570!!
legendary
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Well, now it's really happening, Price is again increasing. In my opinion it's 100% speculation on the halving event, mostly from China.

In last halving event, however, there was only a relatively small price increase in the month the halving occured (November 2012). In the months before halving, price was even going down.

Now it's different, people are already speculating on the event before it occurs. Why?

For me the explanation is: In 2012, Bitcoiners had experienced the short-lived 2011 rally, but were also deeply depressed by the bear market that drove price down to $2 in end-2011. It was not clear that Bitcoin would have the media coverage and success it finally had one year later. So speculation on the halving event was not present.

Now, we have experienced the november 2013 hype and we know how high it can go and how fast "it can happen". People are talking about "halving" everywhere. So, why not buy some BTC to speculate on a price increase? So the prophecy becomes self-fulfilling.

I think price will go a bit higher than now, but maybe not that high as some people think. There is no Willy this year and stronger competition from altcoins with real improvements over BTC.

The reason Bitcoin is going up is due china being aware on Bitcoin in 2016, knowing that it's the best option to move capital out from their increasingly oppressive country + the fundamentals of Bitcoin looking better than ever due the technical improvements like segwit and sidechains really soon + altcoins proving that they are not real competition to Bitcoin. You are delusional if you think otherwise. Look at how all altcoins have gone red when Bitcoin started going up. This is because in the moment of truth, everyone only trusts Bitcoin and wants to be in the winning team, so everyone sells their alts to move to Bitcoin.
No, no altcoin is competition for Bitcoin, stop dreaming.
legendary
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Well, now it's really happening, Price is again increasing. In my opinion it's 100% speculation on the halving event, mostly from China.

In last halving event, however, there was only a relatively small price increase in the month the halving occured (November 2012). In the months before halving, price was even going down.

Now it's different, people are already speculating on the event before it occurs. Why?

For me the explanation is: In 2012, Bitcoiners had experienced the short-lived 2011 rally, but were also deeply depressed by the bear market that drove price down to $2 in end-2011. It was not clear that Bitcoin would have the media coverage and success it finally had one year later. So speculation on the halving event was not present.

Now, we have experienced the november 2013 hype and we know how high it can go and how fast "it can happen". People are talking about "halving" everywhere. So, why not buy some BTC to speculate on a price increase? So the prophecy becomes self-fulfilling.

I think price will go a bit higher than now, but maybe not that high as some people think. There is no Willy this year and stronger competition from altcoins with real improvements over BTC.
hero member
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Is it normal ? I wasn't here when the old halving block rewards happened before so I'm not sure how things work exactly but logically ... should we see a price increase (at least little bit) since we are getting closer and closer ?

well price rises now and probably because of halving, lots of people buys because because they want to sell them later after halving, so price rises and fast, 510$ at this moment

and if price wouldn't rise then yes, i think it would be actually strange as this would mean that people shows no interest in bitcoins so this would be very horrible news for bitcoin
legendary
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halving still about one month more, but it seems today prices are rising fast enough. I believe this is the effect of halving, and could not imagine when later approached halving prices could increase about $550-600
full member
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You do not need to worry any more, the price just rose 20% over the last week. It is a big rise even for bitcoin.
sr. member
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The bad thing of the Bitcoin is that it is really hard to predict what is going to happen with Bitcoin and that is because there are now more people that is greedy and that is really bad.
But they have to know that the value will rise soon because it was also already stable for a long time and that have to change.
legendary
Activity: 1862
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It is both kind of funny and interesting to watch people are impatient about bitcoin price just because halving is coming.

You have to understand some things first:

1. Halving is not an instant price rise switch on/off. It takes time.
2. There are already more than 15 millions of BTC mined, it is not certain if we need more supply to cover demand.
3. Events of the last halving showed that price will take a long time to corre
jr. member
Activity: 59
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It seems most of the guys holding their bitcoin and hope for a price increase before the halving or after the halving depending on the price. In case the price rises to f.ex. 600USD+ ,Bitcoin will be dumped hard from traders and miners who will cash out!
full member
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For now there's no increase and its decreased $20 according to preev price.. and i think more people are now converting into eth.. because the price is increased due to fear about price of bitcoin after block halving..

People jumping into ETH are purely doing it because of their greed. They see Bitcoin isn't moving much so they want to jump into ETH hoping to make some good profits. And that's it.


Well..my 'theory' (take this with a grain of salt at one time I drank the Butterly Labs Kool Aid...so you've been warned) Smiley

Anyway ...there is what 3 years plus of bad press FUD and how evil bitcoin is etc, etc.....So IF there is a significant anti BTC crowd that want to get into a crypto and has a FOMO
it very well could be (right or wrong) ethereum COULD pump to 20 bucks plus.

As a comparison of BTC price $445 and etherum price $14 ...a person could make the case that even a $50 buck coin as an alternative to bitcoin ..due to the FUD is NOT out of the realm of
possibility..if there are a significant amount of people who have been convinced BTC is bad and that ethereum is the 'chosen one" (shudder) as an alternative

so imho sideways at halving (again half the mining and the price of btc stays the same .is no small feat either with etherum and all the negative btc fud imho)...so sideways is my view.

I don't like this much as a concept.

 Hope I'm dead,dead,dead wrong...but have no other way to explain the attraction of etherum at this point in time.

and again ...not slamming btc...I am hoarding 100 btc...but it does give me pause.....(that and trump in USA is the republican presidential candidate..thus lending more credence to the fact Elvis really is alive and has been kidnapped by Roswell Aliens....which I would have given better odds on 9 months ago then Trump being the republican presidential candidate Sad

just saying ...its 'weird times" indeed Sad

Ether can very well end up reaching $20 per coin as the speculation and the hype around this coin will not fade away after a month or two. It will be an interesting year for sure, but there is also a negative point to this. The closer the Ether market cap is approaching the $2 billion number, the more people will start doubting about Bitcoin if it doesn't move up much higher than $500 this year. The average Bitcoiner is very easy to influence.

The Ethereum price dropping at the moment. It dropped from around 0.033 to 0.027 now. the bitcoin price is rising.
hero member
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All we need is just a little patience

Unfortunately.. [or Fortunately] we can't just mine that with ASIC's... so schau ma mal...
copper member
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Clueless!
For now there's no increase and its decreased $20 according to preev price.. and i think more people are now converting into eth.. because the price is increased due to fear about price of bitcoin after block halving..

People jumping into ETH are purely doing it because of their greed. They see Bitcoin isn't moving much so they want to jump into ETH hoping to make some good profits. And that's it.


Well..my 'theory' (take this with a grain of salt at one time I drank the Butterly Labs Kool Aid...so you've been warned) Smiley

Anyway ...there is what 3 years plus of bad press FUD and how evil bitcoin is etc, etc.....So IF there is a significant anti BTC crowd that want to get into a crypto and has a FOMO
it very well could be (right or wrong) ethereum COULD pump to 20 bucks plus.

As a comparison of BTC price $445 and etherum price $14 ...a person could make the case that even a $50 buck coin as an alternative to bitcoin ..due to the FUD is NOT out of the realm of
possibility..if there are a significant amount of people who have been convinced BTC is bad and that ethereum is the 'chosen one" (shudder) as an alternative

so imho sideways at halving (again half the mining and the price of btc stays the same .is no small feat either with etherum and all the negative btc fud imho)...so sideways is my view.

I don't like this much as a concept.

 Hope I'm dead,dead,dead wrong...but have no other way to explain the attraction of etherum at this point in time.

and again ...not slamming btc...I am hoarding 100 btc...but it does give me pause.....(that and trump in USA is the republican presidential candidate..thus lending more credence to the fact Elvis really is alive and has been kidnapped by Roswell Aliens....which I would have given better odds on 9 months ago then Trump being the republican presidential candidate Sad

just saying ...its 'weird times" indeed Sad

Ether can very well end up reaching $20 per coin as the speculation and the hype around this coin will not fade away after a month or two. It will be an interesting year for sure, but there is also a negative point to this. The closer the Ether market cap is approaching the $2 billion number, the more people will start doubting about Bitcoin if it doesn't move up much higher than $500 this year. The average Bitcoiner is very easy to influence.

yeah....all the last 3 years of press and btc fud......there could be a place for $50 buck ethereum imho.....if compared to say $500 usd bitcoin......it is not that far fetched.

The question is will it get to say $40 and $50 bucks like Litecoin did back in the day and then fade down to $4 or so or will it actually carve an 'anti-btc' niche out and be the
next 'speculative' coin like litecoin?

I have NO ethereum...but that is the angle I wonder about. How much 'angst' and fomo is there out there about NOT putting $$$ in bitcoin because the 'boat' was missed and it of course from all the FUD is on its last legs...just how far can an 'alternative coin' be hyped in price against say $500 buck bitcoin? Hell if there is such a demand it could 'bubble' to $50 and then stablize at $20 if there are enough kool aid drinking anti bitcoin ethereum bag holders.

crypto always drama.....hell more drama then a Mexican Soap Opera ..if there was such a thing for crypto Smiley

but hell I've no clue.
legendary
Activity: 2101
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All we need is just a little patience
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1427
For now there's no increase and its decreased $20 according to preev price.. and i think more people are now converting into eth.. because the price is increased due to fear about price of bitcoin after block halving..

People jumping into ETH are purely doing it because of their greed. They see Bitcoin isn't moving much so they want to jump into ETH hoping to make some good profits. And that's it.


Well..my 'theory' (take this with a grain of salt at one time I drank the Butterly Labs Kool Aid...so you've been warned) Smiley

Anyway ...there is what 3 years plus of bad press FUD and how evil bitcoin is etc, etc.....So IF there is a significant anti BTC crowd that want to get into a crypto and has a FOMO
it very well could be (right or wrong) ethereum COULD pump to 20 bucks plus.

As a comparison of BTC price $445 and etherum price $14 ...a person could make the case that even a $50 buck coin as an alternative to bitcoin ..due to the FUD is NOT out of the realm of
possibility..if there are a significant amount of people who have been convinced BTC is bad and that ethereum is the 'chosen one" (shudder) as an alternative

so imho sideways at halving (again half the mining and the price of btc stays the same .is no small feat either with etherum and all the negative btc fud imho)...so sideways is my view.

I don't like this much as a concept.

 Hope I'm dead,dead,dead wrong...but have no other way to explain the attraction of etherum at this point in time.

and again ...not slamming btc...I am hoarding 100 btc...but it does give me pause.....(that and trump in USA is the republican presidential candidate..thus lending more credence to the fact Elvis really is alive and has been kidnapped by Roswell Aliens....which I would have given better odds on 9 months ago then Trump being the republican presidential candidate Sad

just saying ...its 'weird times" indeed Sad

Ether can very well end up reaching $20 per coin as the speculation and the hype around this coin will not fade away after a month or two. It will be an interesting year for sure, but there is also a negative point to this. The closer the Ether market cap is approaching the $2 billion number, the more people will start doubting about Bitcoin if it doesn't move up much higher than $500 this year. The average Bitcoiner is very easy to influence.
hero member
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Hello.

My name is Sig. Campaign.

I think we all happy when halving take effect. I buy now and wait for halving..me patient..once me see rise me shell = big profit. = Make me happy.com
Then me happy. Because me won big profit.. and all my village happy.

But then we sad... in 5 year time.. we see...silly to sell the bitcoin now...should wait... = bigger profit = more happy.

But we no see big picture....too sad.

Yours Sincerely,

Mr. S. Campaign.
legendary
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just wat until july or so, then we will likely see the effects of the halving.

It's weird to expect the decrease of supply to have an effect before the decrease in supply happened.
hero member
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The increase will follow at the end of the halving or after it what people are already saying.
I really think the bitcoin is gonna be very profitable.
sr. member
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we are pretty close to halving now and after several weeks no increase for bitcoin prices seems today slowly but sure the prices has rise up and i had buying during prices $430 and the current prices $435-$438 but i'm still hold my bitcoin and hoping we will reach to $440 today or tomorrow

I think we're not much close to the halving. Only the price rise happening is just of the technology and on its gradual rise. The halving effects will cause a increase in price when you are one or two weeks away from halving date.

You should see bitcoin's price going up and up, it is slow but not going down when halving will come than automatically bitcoins price will increase very high, may be it will be 700$ reached. than you should sell your bitcoins because after halving bitcoins price will going down, so it depend on you how you can get profit.
legendary
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What seems to be happening is that bitcoin approaches $470, the blocks get full and backlogs build, the market reacts and the price falls. We've seen this scenario three times already. I think $470 is a ceiling till the blocksize thing gets resolved.
sr. member
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You can already see that the halving is now coming towards indeed but you have to know that it will rise slowly and that it was stable for a long time.
So you dont see now not that much difference but we just have to wait for it on the right moment.
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