Topic: Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested (Read 803 times)

I never went about discussing this, but you're totally right. There are literally like NO circumstances in real life of kill switch happening. Especially ones that have ended up being used by powerful people who have the ability to take down most of the world with some horrible pedo photos. Not too typical that we hear about any of these things happening, lol.

I read some of the rumors about the killswitch from Assange -- but ya know, none of us would know unless he is really dead.


Ya know at this point with all of this speculation, I highly doubt we're going to see her dead. She'll survive, but she won't be allowed to say anything of what she says.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1290037/ghislaine-maxwell-off-suicide-watch-moans-jail/

Maxwell was taken off of suicide watch and is whining about the conditions she's in. Great idea, I think we know what happens next. Anyone taking bets on how long she's got? 

I mean a deadmans switch doesn't need to be that crazy. It could just be something that you have to go to and verify every x amount of days with a certain code to say that you're still alive. If you're not, it'll go off.

Or at least, something like that. I've never had the liberty of using one. Still alive over here, and not worth enough to have to use one or have one in use.

Crazily enough though Maxwell isn't dead yet. Still alive and kicking, at least to the best of our knowledge. Yet again we'll see what the future brings for Maxwell and their weird pedo island. Hopefully the truth comes out, but I don't think any of us expect much to happen.

Rich people, pedos, and transparency don't really go hand and hand.

The Wikipedia article on the subject...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch

seems to validate your suspicion, that the software version of the switch may never have actually been used. But there are numerous examples of mechanical ones working.

a 'deadman' switch would actually need to know someone was dead. which is usually an attorney reading a will.

a technological deadman switch without some conspiracy device injected into the body would be where someone has to access a certain device/email/phone and confirm they are still fine to not trigger it. where the lack of response is the technical trigger

in reality its usually having some 3rd party person being made responsible to release into under certain conditions.
and yea the next game is.. if maxwell was epsteins 'switch' she didnt out the high profile people at his death. because she decided to use that info to help herself avoid problems

and is now not saying anything in the hopes high profile people will step in and save her with a relaxed sentance/freedom

and knowing the greed and ego of people in those circles whomever is in maxwells circle as her switch. would probably not auto-release should she die/not get a relaxed sentance. but instead use the info for their own personal benefit.
thus a cycle of blackmail for benefits would keep going around rather than releasing info that can take a high profile person down

You guys have been watching too many movies, which is understandable, pandemic and all, but do you know any instances of real life high-profile dead man's switch based document release? I vaguely recall some speculation that Assange might have such a switch but he's not dead yet so who knows. I'm not aware of something like that actually ever happening. Perhaps it's not so easy to arrange as it may seem.

But when Epstein kicked the bucket, there wasn't an autorelease.

Eh not sure he's being positive towards her. I think he's just saying something that he says to everyone that he knows is going to go to jail soon, and for someone like her it meant a lot more in the media circus as you know, he said it to a CHILD PEDOPHILE. Horrible thing to say and someone on the Trump PR team should note it down that it's not GOOD to say nice things about Pedos in the media, even if you're being sarcastic or something along those lines.

If all the powerful people want Maxwell dead she'll be dead. Maybe they have something on her as well? All of these people should have had better deads man switches. Pretty stupid to not just have all the crazy shit autoreleased into the public.

so if trump did have sex with girls under 18. you dont want that investigated because trump is not in jail in the first place to even warrant a investigation to trigger a need to arrest him
seems a bit backwards to me

instead you want trump to be treated as a victim of blackamail, thus get away with anything he coulda done at epsteins many parties he attended

seems your wearing the patriot hat. and not the logical ethics hat tonight.

just because he is president doesnt mean he deserves a get out of jail free card.
what he deserves is to be punished like anyone else doing the same sexual acts

im british and i support the royal family. but even i have the sense of ethics and morals to say that prince andrew should be jailed

dont base things on patriotic emotions. base it on whats right by law and to true victims
if you think blackmail threat is a more serious crime than underage rape/sex.  then maybe thats an ethics issue you need to research

i would find it funny and very disturbing if all rapists could in future get away with their crimes by just saying they were blackmailed by the very people they victimised

a crime does not become a non-crime just because a secondary action of less severity is then used against the one causing the initial crime

'i stole a car, but i should not be arrested because when ii tried to sell it. the person buying it off me said he would call the cops unless i gave him discount"

sorry i just dont see blackmail as being a worthy defense

however the only exception would be being blackmailed into doing a crime
EG 'i know you cheated on your wife with vegas 32yo stripper so i want you to now rape a girl thats 17 or else i tell your wife about the cheating in vegas'
but that kinda blackmail is not what the 'political elite' people associated with maxwell experienced

It's really tempting to look at this case and Maxwell and point fingers at what are assumed to be the political important people. A suggestion? Don't do that. Focus on the criminals. The one that is in jail. Maxwell.

Where did Epsteins money come from? Was it blackmail? Of important people?

Blackmail is a felony, and those who are blackmailed are "victims."

trump still trying to buddy up with her rather then say 'lynch her' because if he says lynch her she can just come to her senses and reveal stuff she knnows about trump

just because he is president doesnt mean that he is more pure then the pope.
he is known to be a bad businessman that happily claims bankrupcy.. from a business point of view he should not be the one deciding on treasury things
he is known to be a womaniser so he should not be incharge of laws that can affect women
he has had womanising parties publicly with epstein and obviously there could be alot of stuff maxwell knows behind closed doors

so when people think that trump is some innocent guy. just because he is president.. well thats just silly.
being president does not make someone suddenly never have a murky past. it just means they now have more puppet strings to prevent their murky past resurfacing

but he still needs to be careful because if she can delay her case to beyond the next election. where trump loses his puppetstring power. and then she reveals some stuff about him.. bye bye trump
so yea trump is still being a bit positive about maxwell

Just as my own personal update on this.

Surprised that Maxwell hasn't 'suicided' herself yet (been murdered, y'all know what I mean) as it seemed like they were slowly laying the groundwork for her to just die. As she was placed on suicide watch, then maybe experiencing covid symptoms, and then nothing.

Not too big a fan of Trump saying I wish her well. Even if I've seen that past times Trump has said this he has not meant it in the traditonal "I wish Grandma well in the Hospital" he meant it more in the sense of "I wish (x) person well in prison) But then again, why even give people the chance to think that you're supporting her or that you like her, or anything like that.

Just come out and say that you hope she goes to jail for a long time.

They were doing many things on that island of his.
There's a confession of his driver/bodyguard circulating somewhere on the web where he said that they had a kind of "roleplay" there in which they had a bull mask that each of the guests would take turns to wear each night. The masked person would then roam around the island doing whatever it is that they wanted, like having sex with whoever they asked and that chosen person had to obey them.
They also had kids there. He saw a french boy once who looked lost, scared and did not speak english. We can only guess what they needed foregin children for since there was no boarding school or an orphanage there.

One more time. Blackmail is a crime, and there is such a thing as inducement and entrapment.

Where did Epstein's money come from?

i think her hope is to plead out. not as a trafficker. but as some stupid employer neglecting her duties by not protecting the girls when accusations were made of sexual harrassment involving epstein

EG like the cases where rape victims in the workplace report it to the boss and the boss ignores it.
she is hoping to be portrayed as the ignorant uninvolved boss

This is what I was thinking here. With personalities involved, getting rid of her is so easy for them. I wonder if she will ever be convicted with her crimes. This is real telenovela in the making. What fate is she gonna have after all these years of being part in sex trafficking of children.

yep its been talked about for years.

there is some interesting stuff in that document. but here is some clarification by comparing the pdf to whats publicly known for years
on pages of like 98-102. maxwells attorneys talk about a detective who claims no knowledge of maxwells actions

yet there are police released video interviews of victims from 2000-2005 that show the victims saying how maxwell approached them and introduced them to epstein, trained them up and such
funny part is whats not said. but hinted in the document is the detective working solely on the case in 2005 and then interviewed by maxwells attorneys had a private 'business' connection with epstein pre-2005
the hint is where it says that epstein hired the detective as a private security guy. and got him to do things like install camera's inside epsteins house
kinda funny that the same detective then doing the search warrent never found the hard drive with the security footage he helped install
also funny how epstein just happen to have disapeared taking ripping the hard drive from the computer before the 'surprise' search warrent..

i just found it weird that the attorneys know there are victim interviews from 2000-2005 naming maxwell as being involved. there are public info of the detective being hired by epstein before 2005
yet the attorneys want to paint a picture that the detective investigating epstein in 2005-6 is an impartial investigator with no knowledge of maxwell. and no pre-existing connection to epstein before 2005.. yet then hint that the detective was involved with epstein when certain details need to be said (facepalm) to many flip flops

i kinda hope the victims attorneys do pick at the holes of maxwells defense, as its kinda just seems like easy pickings to rip maxwells story apart
there is stuff like maxwells attorneys saying how in 2002 VR was not with epstein and maxwell.. but not mentioning is how maxwell and epstein got bored of VR as she 'aged out' and so dropped her as his masseuse and was then paying off her silence by sending her to thailand and paying for her education
they seem very evasive about the details of 2000-2001.. especially about the whole prince andrew incident. pretending they never took her places in 2001 even though there is a picture of VR with andrew and maxwell
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/02/20/21568426-0-image-a-15_1575318635649.jpg

As I understand it, there were quite famous people involved in pedophilia so she couldn't be arrested for so long. She should be happy that they didn't get rid of her because she knows too much.

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Maxwell's father died under mysterious circumstances (translate: murdered ) I believe when she was a teenager.

A lot of prominent Democrats were implicated in this dump. Giuffre may have credibility problems, but I think there is a good chance a lot of powerful people will end up going to jail.