Giveaway threads are not allowed - page 23.

as4406

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Quote from: theymos on January 27, 2014, 01:11:50 AM

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.

yeah, i think reply must be useful and entertaining, no rubbish.

Mue

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MonetaryUnit. For Me,yoU,Everybody.

Quote from: BadBear on September 03, 2014, 02:17:02 PM

Link to what account you're talking about specifically please.

Thank you for taking the time to resolve this issue.

homm88

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BTC/Doge

Its good that giveaway threads are not allowed as it will give a very straight path to everyone regarding not to get distracted and always look for the free items.I would rather say that there should be some hire and jobs section where people can work and then earn instead of getting something for free.Its a bad habit for sure.

IMJim

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I don't understand this ordeal with Mue & see very clearly from this case that this forum has some serious issues that need to be resolved!

It is so fricken clear that this was an honest mistake and since the ban, this dev has acted professionally, honestly and has endured quite enough for his honest mistake.

I don't get with the number of member's this forum has, that Email requests, PMs and all other forms of contact to the moderators is largely ignored! What is the point of moderating a forum that users cannot contact and GET RESPONSES to their inquiries?! Your users should be treated better than this and we should ALL have the ability to send in inquiries and get responses. The fact that this gentlemen has tried relentlessly to do right by these rules and has gotten nowhere in trying to communicate and resolve the issue, is just flat out wrong!

MUnit

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Quote from: BadBear on September 03, 2014, 02:17:02 PM

Link to what account you're talking about specifically please.

Hi the account in question is "Mue" profile u=348366

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mue-348366

If you could review the ban of that it would be really appreciated.

Thanks

BadBear

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Quote from: MUnit on September 03, 2014, 01:44:10 AM

Quote from: notsofast on August 24, 2014, 09:22:24 AM

I have been talking with the developer of MonetaryUnit ($MUE http://www.monetaryunit.org/launch/). He was banned for posting a giveaway directly in his currency's ANN thread, as you can read in his earlier post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-threads-are-not-allowed-434310

It looks as though the ten days' worth of ban time has long since elapsed.

I'd like to see an ANN thread for this coin, without inclusion of any giveaway obviously, appear again on BCT, for the further promotion and propagation of this coin and its community development. I've offered to post the MonetaryUnit ANN myself, but first I'd like a clear understanding of why the original developer's ban has continued, lest I become forum banned in my attempt to help.

Thanks for your time.

Quote from: BadBear on September 02, 2014, 03:53:13 AM

Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

Ok, you go ahead and do it then.

Quote from: mprep on September 02, 2014, 10:40:32 AM

Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

In the end, personal opinions still affect the conclusion.

Hi Mods, can you please advise when/if my account Mue will be allowed to post again.
Yes, I am risking this account also getting banned, but I have had no reply to ban appeal emails sent over 31 days ago, no reply to PMs sent, nor has notsofast had a reply to his post quoted above.

Yes I made a complete mess of my ANN by including an in thread giveaway - I was a noob (my first and only coin), that first ANN was deleted and the account banned, I was given no reason why, so I created another account, MonetaryUnit, did the ANN again, this time with no in thread giveaway (as a user had suggested that was probably the reason), and again, this was banned, and again with no communication or feedback.

Am I a criminal genius evil mastermind trying to scam the community? Clearly not.
I just want to help this coin grow, and this community is a vital part of that.

I think one of yours mods wrote something like "Moderation should be done in moderation" or something along those lines, so please, re-consider my ban and allow me to have my account Mue unbanned so I can continue to work on my MonetaryUnit project.

E-mail ban appeals also quoted below.

Many thanks

Quote

MUE account ban appeal
[email protected] [[email protected]]

Sent: Aug 2, 7:42 am
To: [email protected]
Hi, I have obviously broken forum rules, and hoped you could let me know exactly what, so I can make sure not to make the same mistake again?

I am assuming it was because my ANN suggested posting wallet addresses for give-aways?
This was mentioned in a post to me by a user, and I did amend the ANN.

Yes, I understand ignorance is not an excuse, but would appreciate some feedback.

Many thanks

MUE

Quote

Account MonetaryUnit
[email protected] [[email protected]]

Sent: Aug 3, 3:01 am
To: [email protected]
Hi please see below, this is a PM I have sent to Theymos.
Your feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
____________
Hi, I hope you can help.
I've had two ANNs & accounts blocked now for my alt MonetaryUnit.

The first occasion I included an in thread giveaway - granted, my error (This was my first ever ANN).
The second was several hours ago, and as suggested in in your thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.460
I made sure there was no in thread giveaway, users could go to an external site, or PM their wallet address.

I really want to contribute to this community, and without some feedback on where I am going wrong, it is very difficult for me to move forward.

I have now paid two IP unblocking fees, and had two accounts banned, which from a PR perspective, is not ideal for a coin launch.

I would really appreciate your input.

Many thanks

Link to what account you're talking about specifically please.

thatguy42

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Quote from: theymos on January 27, 2014, 01:11:50 AM

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.

The thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623884.1460
MMXIV coin
Is giving stolen, unclaimed coins, to boost his private altcoin multipool.
No one is allowed to know what is mined.
He gives coins to loyal followers.
He then takes stolen, unclaimed coins; to trade for altcoins mined on his multipool.

MUnit

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Quote from: notsofast on August 24, 2014, 09:22:24 AM

I have been talking with the developer of MonetaryUnit ($MUE http://www.monetaryunit.org/launch/). He was banned for posting a giveaway directly in his currency's ANN thread, as you can read in his earlier post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-threads-are-not-allowed-434310

It looks as though the ten days' worth of ban time has long since elapsed.

I'd like to see an ANN thread for this coin, without inclusion of any giveaway obviously, appear again on BCT, for the further promotion and propagation of this coin and its community development. I've offered to post the MonetaryUnit ANN myself, but first I'd like a clear understanding of why the original developer's ban has continued, lest I become forum banned in my attempt to help.

Thanks for your time.

Quote from: BadBear on September 02, 2014, 03:53:13 AM

Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

Ok, you go ahead and do it then.

Quote from: mprep on September 02, 2014, 10:40:32 AM

Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

In the end, personal opinions still affect the conclusion.

Hi Mods, can you please advise when/if my account Mue will be allowed to post again.
Yes, I am risking this account also getting banned, but I have had no reply to ban appeal emails sent over 31 days ago, no reply to PMs sent, nor has notsofast had a reply to his post quoted above.

Yes I made a complete mess of my ANN by including an in thread giveaway - I was a noob (my first and only coin), that first ANN was deleted and the account banned, I was given no reason why, so I created another account, MonetaryUnit, did the ANN again, this time with no in thread giveaway (as a user had suggested that was probably the reason), and again, this was banned, and again with no communication or feedback.

Am I a criminal genius evil mastermind trying to scam the community? Clearly not.
I just want to help this coin grow, and this community is a vital part of that.

I think one of yours mods wrote something like "Moderation should be done in moderation" or something along those lines, so please, re-consider my ban and allow me to have my account Mue unbanned so I can continue to work on my MonetaryUnit project.

E-mail ban appeals also quoted below.

Many thanks

Quote

MUE account ban appeal
[email protected] [[email protected]]

Sent: Aug 2, 7:42 am
To: [email protected]
Hi, I have obviously broken forum rules, and hoped you could let me know exactly what, so I can make sure not to make the same mistake again?

I am assuming it was because my ANN suggested posting wallet addresses for give-aways?
This was mentioned in a post to me by a user, and I did amend the ANN.

Yes, I understand ignorance is not an excuse, but would appreciate some feedback.

Many thanks

MUE

Quote

Account MonetaryUnit
[email protected] [[email protected]]

Sent: Aug 3, 3:01 am
To: [email protected]
Hi please see below, this is a PM I have sent to Theymos.
Your feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks
____________
Hi, I hope you can help.
I've had two ANNs & accounts blocked now for my alt MonetaryUnit.

The first occasion I included an in thread giveaway - granted, my error (This was my first ever ANN).
The second was several hours ago, and as suggested in in your thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.460
I made sure there was no in thread giveaway, users could go to an external site, or PM their wallet address.

I really want to contribute to this community, and without some feedback on where I am going wrong, it is very difficult for me to move forward.

I have now paid two IP unblocking fees, and had two accounts banned, which from a PR perspective, is not ideal for a coin launch.

I would really appreciate your input.

Many thanks

mprep

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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

In the end, personal opinions still affect the conclusion.

BadBear

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Quote from: Dexter44 on September 02, 2014, 03:48:58 AM

It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

Ok, you go ahead and do it then.

Dexter44

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It require a lot of time and effort to do a good and righteous investigation, but I think it worth it.

rachman

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Quote from: mprep on August 27, 2014, 05:41:20 AM

Quote from: develCuy on August 26, 2014, 04:37:16 PM

Quote from: Jaaawsh on August 24, 2014, 10:28:23 PM

So you ban people for doing giveaways, but when people scam that's completely fine?

+1

It doesn't makes sense to me honestly. Is there any good reason?

It's much more complicated to find out if something is a scam. You have to question various people, gather evidence, listen to the accused and then do a verdict on whether he's guilty. It also leaves a lot of room for opinion and bias. Someone of the mods could be affiliated with the user suspected of scamming and would ignore certain evidence. Aside form that, moderation of scams gives a false sense of security. Let's not forget that with so many scams, moderation of those would practically be the only thing we'd be able to do.

I agree, investigations can and should be conducted, but there is always such a thing as a personal opinion.

MyPotPlantDied

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Why not have a single thread that is solely for giveaways? I admit I didn't like the giveaway threads cluttering up everything but I think they should have a home somewhere on here.

mprep

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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Quote from: develCuy on August 26, 2014, 04:37:16 PM

Quote from: Jaaawsh on August 24, 2014, 10:28:23 PM

So you ban people for doing giveaways, but when people scam that's completely fine?

+1

It doesn't makes sense to me honestly. Is there any good reason?

It's much more complicated to find out if something is a scam. You have to question various people, gather evidence, listen to the accused and then do a verdict on whether he's guilty. It also leaves a lot of room for opinion and bias. Someone of the mods could be affiliated with the user suspected of scamming and would ignore certain evidence. Aside form that, moderation of scams gives a false sense of security. Let's not forget that with so many scams, moderation of those would practically be the only thing we'd be able to do.

develCuy

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Quote from: Jaaawsh on August 24, 2014, 10:28:23 PM

So you ban people for doing giveaways, but when people scam that's completely fine?

+1

It doesn't makes sense to me honestly. Is there any good reason?

Jaaawsh

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Check out Fastslots.co !!!!

So you ban people for doing giveaways, but when people scam that's completely fine?

notsofast

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@notsofast

I have been talking with the developer of MonetaryUnit ($MUE http://www.monetaryunit.org/launch/). He was banned for posting a giveaway directly in his currency's ANN thread, as you can read in his earlier post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-threads-are-not-allowed-434310

It looks as though the ten days' worth of ban time has long since elapsed.

I'd like to see an ANN thread for this coin, without inclusion of any giveaway obviously, appear again on BCT, for the further promotion and propagation of this coin and its community development. I've offered to post the MonetaryUnit ANN myself, but first I'd like a clear understanding of why the original developer's ban has continued, lest I become forum banned in my attempt to help.

Thanks for your time.

mprep

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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Quote from: ABC Dev Team on August 20, 2014, 02:11:07 AM

JDS1000 of our Dev Team received the following message and was unsure of why he received it.

"Sorry JDS1000, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Conducting a banned altcoin giveaway (30 days)"

I run CryptoSandwich Giveaways and would never come close to BitcoinTalk with a giveaway.

I recently sent a DM to UseCoin to receive a giveaway. Was that what did me in???

Can I appeal? BitcoinTalk is an important part of my livelihood. Thank you and please let me know...

JDS1000

He was banned for doing an on-site giveaway. He broke this part of the rule:

Quote from: theymos on January 27, 2014, 01:11:50 AM

<...>
Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
<...>

One of the requirements was to post in your thread.

ABC Dev Team

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Thanks for exploring Abundance. (ABC)

JDS1000 of our Dev Team received the following message and was unsure of why he received it.

"Sorry JDS1000, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Conducting a banned altcoin giveaway (30 days)"

I run CryptoSandwich Giveaways and would never come close to BitcoinTalk with a giveaway.

I recently sent a DM to UseCoin to receive a giveaway. Was that what did me in???

Can I appeal? BitcoinTalk is an important part of my livelihood. Thank you and please let me know...

JDS1000

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Quote from: hpenvy on August 18, 2014, 03:36:08 AM

I don't understand the confusion, the admins made it clear:

* The alt coin section is essentially a dumpster of non-btc related information
* They would LOVE the traffic to go somewhere else
* A majority of the forum members would love the alt section to disappear

Find another site. If this forum doesn't want the traffic, I'm sure there's more than a few other boards that would enjoy it.

http://cryptorun.com/forums/giveaways.37/

This is my giveaway section that currently sits quite empty. People can use that if they want. There are also a few other sites out there that offer crypto giveaways. Feel free to spam these forums or mine in the link above. (I asked a mod before posting this as I did not want to seem spammy, and they said they would welcome giveaway alternative sites to drive them specific threads off here).

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