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Topic: [GLBSE] BDT - 3% weekly interest bond, backed by Bitdaytrade - page 13. (Read 57771 times)

hero member
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BDT post mortem

Rethinking everything I've went through tl;dr

So basically you've decided to solemnly affirm your partner is entirely to blame and you're a good person bla bla.

This is such an unpredictable and unexpected course of events. I was thinking for sure you'll say he's a nice guy and you just fucked people over. Shock and surprise on this one, literally.

Good luck with the next sca uh I mean... those things you do.
legendary
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ah so you only need 10k BTC ($80k USD) to do what with?  Mt. Gox only trades ~ $800k USD per day in BTC anyway -  how do you plan on generating such an amazing amount of money that you can pay 3% interest weekly?  Seems like every one of these obvious ponzi's claim they are killing it "trading" and "arbitrage" and yet they all need massive, massive investment from a wide # of ppl...

obviously added to Micon's obvious list of Ponzi's

added to Micon's list of ponzi's and scams you should never take part in.

Another win for the "trolls"
Whatever happens this isn't a win for Micon because his post is nonsensical - this was about developing a trading platform which is completely different from trading, and even if it was a scam it's not a ponzi scam.

The topic of this thread is the bond, not Bitdaytrade itself (which probably is also a scam, but not a ponzi). This 3% per week "bond" had all the hallmarks of a ponzi and the same predictable and predicted outcome as a ponzi.
donator
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ah so you only need 10k BTC ($80k USD) to do what with?  Mt. Gox only trades ~ $800k USD per day in BTC anyway -  how do you plan on generating such an amazing amount of money that you can pay 3% interest weekly?  Seems like every one of these obvious ponzi's claim they are killing it "trading" and "arbitrage" and yet they all need massive, massive investment from a wide # of ppl...

obviously added to Micon's obvious list of Ponzi's

added to Micon's list of ponzi's and scams you should never take part in.

Another win for the "trolls"
Whatever happens this isn't a win for Micon because his post is nonsensical - this was about developing a trading platform which is completely different from trading, and even if it was a scam it's not a ponzi scam.

Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

Thanks to the both of you for your continuing effort! The work you are doing is vitally important since having your ID and such verified, must be made to mean something. Thanks again!

Thank you for pushing this. But please do not take promises to pay too serious - could also be typical delay tactics.

I suppose criminal prosecution will work quite well within EU member states. And the evidence in this case seems sufficient to justify prosecution ''in public interest''.
Well, let's wait a (little) bit to see if Alberto is able to resolve this...
We're approaching this in multiple ways. The best outcome by far is if Alberto voluntarily repays, litigation would be a lengthy process with an uncertain outcome.

Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

Maybe you should lock this thread then, to stop the trolling and spread of misinformation.  Only unlock to post updates or allow discussion of updates.
I expect the trolling to die down.
full member
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of course, in USA banks  and goverment use  extortion to get back their loans and taxes then. ( goverment does it really, but acording to the law)

Why are some people defending to a scammer who doesn't honor his contract?.

If we want bitcoin has any future, "BTC rules" have to be followed for everyone .
hero member
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@ Nefario:

I dont think Alberto, criminal as he may be, signed any privacy agreement with you, that entitles you to post his personal information like this in public. Im on your site and have no tolerance for delinquancy like this in bitcoin world, that's why I'd like to warn you and advise you to take this information down ASAP. Otherwise Alberto's site may have good arguments in court to have your charges tuned down or even worse, sue you for putting that info up. Please reconsider!

Alberto agreed to this information being published, in the event of him scamming or running with the money, on sending it to me, I wouldn't post it otherwise.

I'm curious to see this agreement. Threatening it, and him not responding to the threat isn't actually an agreement in most places.
legendary
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Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

Thanks to the both of you for your continuing effort! The work you are doing is vitally important since having your ID and such verified, must be made to mean something. Thanks again!

Thank you for pushing this. But please do not take promises to pay too serious - could also be typical delay tactics.

I suppose criminal prosecution will work quite well within EU member states. And the evidence in this case seems sufficient to justify prosecution ''in public interest''.
Well, let's wait a (little) bit to see if Alberto is able to resolve this...

sr. member
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Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

Thanks to the both of you for your continuing effort! The work you are doing is vitally important since having your ID and such verified, must be made to mean something. Thanks again!
sr. member
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Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

Maybe you should lock this thread then, to stop the trolling and spread of misinformation.  Only unlock to post updates or allow discussion of updates.

legendary
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If you need to lie to win you are not really winning now are you?   

Chaang, you should really stop pointing fingers and accusing everyone else of lying you big fat hypocrite. You sold fresh PPT bonds after Pirate defaulted:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1173216


donator
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Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.

this ones good, looks like alberto is going to have to work his ass off in the famliy restaurant for the next 5 years, lol
legendary
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ah so you only need 10k BTC ($80k USD) to do what with?  Mt. Gox only trades ~ $800k USD per day in BTC anyway -  how do you plan on generating such an amazing amount of money that you can pay 3% interest weekly?  Seems like every one of these obvious ponzi's claim they are killing it "trading" and "arbitrage" and yet they all need massive, massive investment from a wide # of ppl...

obviously added to Micon's obvious list of Ponzi's

added to Micon's list of ponzi's and scams you should never take part in.

Another win for the "trolls"

legendary
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If GLBSE goes to the police and files a criminal charge and then goes on to let that asset trade it could be awkward.

You were supposedly filing charges against Pirate, that didnt stop you from selling (and even creating fresh) pirate debt.
donator
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Nefario and I are working on a repayment plan with Alberto and will post updates when there's significant progress.
legendary
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Can you unfreeze the bond?

Surely everyone has had time to read about what is going on.

why unfreeze a bond worth 0?

Let the market determine what it's worth

GLBSE knowingly letting a scam asset trade seems questionable.

like your ppt?
vip
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Can you unfreeze the bond?

Surely everyone has had time to read about what is going on.

why unfreeze a bond worth 0?

Let the market determine what it's worth

GLBSE knowingly letting a scam asset trade seems questionable.
member
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The rest of your post doesn't make much sense.

I agree and suggest that you put hazek on ignore immediately. He is wasting our time with trolling crap while we're trying to take care of important issues.

Nefario, thanks for taking the lead in this.

Well we've kind of exhausted our options, we've spent weeks trying to get Alberto to make good on his commitments.

And now your going to resort to violence, good to know.
Please, enlighten us on your superior method of extracting payment from debtors scammers peacefully.

Spread the facts of his crime with anyone he tries to work with or have any kind of a relationship with. Use ostracization instead of violence, because not only will you follow the non-aggression principle which allows for a peaceful and prosperous society but is also much more effective.

What you have to understand is that civil prosecution is part of this process of ostracization. If there were a case in Alberto's past in which someone had taken him to court, Meni (and us investors) might have avoided this altogether.

Yes, the government and its thugs own a monopoly on violence. I'll give you that, but at the same time no one wants to talk sociology right now.

~pyotr
sr. member
Activity: 457
Merit: 250
Look for the bear necessities!!
Can you unfreeze the bond?

Surely everyone has had time to read about what is going on.

why unfreeze a bond worth 0?

Let the market determine what it's worth
sr. member
Activity: 457
Merit: 250
Look for the bear necessities!!
Can you unfreeze the bond?

Surely everyone has had time to read about what is going on.
newbie
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Merit: 0

back in jul i opened an account at BDT. one weekend i got an email saying my password was reset. I immediately tried to reset it myself and got back into my account.  I then tried to transfer my funds. (this all happened <1m, I just happened to see the email right away). But because of the wallet setup he had, it required verification from the admin.  Anyway I emailed him that I was able to get into my account and initiate transfer, and the admin emailed me back saying there were two: one to a Tor gateway and one to my legit addr. I confirmed the legit address and got my funds.


i emailed the admin and told him his system was compromised, but that everything was OK on my end because I got my funds back.
Anyway we talked about security, and this guy didn't seem to have a clue. I offered to help him, but he refused.  The guy wouldn't acknowledge the password reset and TOR transfer problem. So I told him to get lost. Anyway I would have posted this on the forum, but I forgot my username (just a lurker here) and then I got stuck in newbie hell.  One other person describe the same problem. 


Anyway I get an email a month later


Dear Mr. xxxx
After similar issues were investigated it turned out that there was a
bug in the history panel showing withdrawals not pertaining to your
account, this gave a feeling of account compromission while in fact
that never happened. Would you like us to reinstate your account ?


Bests
BDT

Anyway, I never touched the site again. Found the reddit hack page, then found this thread. I'm sorry he stole funds from other people . I think he hurt the entire bitcoin community.


I'm curious as to wether the trades were actually being executed anyway, perhaps all the traders were fictional I wonder. I made maybe about $2-3 in trading while it was up (a little before July). 




legendary
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So was that tablet the big chinese tablets-with-bitcoin deal rumours were flying about a while back?

Or is the tablets in china thing real and still on?

-MarkM-
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