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Topic: [GLBSE] Bitcorp Mining Company - BTCMC 60+ GH/s, clear ASIC upgrade path. - page 7. (Read 17464 times)

legendary
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I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 

You need to post equivalent mhash based on today's difficulty. People only think in mhash.

Good point.

We are at nearly 60 GH/s....sometimes just over, but not sustaining yet while we work out a few trouble rigs. 



Oh man.

Lets say its 60 ghash even, and on August 1st you paid out on 3764 shares.

60000 / 3764 = 15.94 mhash. Did I fail at math somewhere along the way?

Well every share gets an equal amount of the hashing power.....even those still held by the founders. 

So you have to divide the 60 GH/s by 10,000. 

Okay, 6. Still, thats better than the 5 I've been writing them down as.
legendary
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I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 

You need to post equivalent mhash based on today's difficulty. People only think in mhash.

Good point.

We are at nearly 60 GH/s....sometimes just over, but not sustaining yet while we work out a few trouble rigs. 



Oh man.

Lets say its 60 ghash even, and on August 1st you paid out on 3764 shares.

60000 / 3764 = 15.94 mhash. Did I fail at math somewhere along the way?

Well every share gets an equal amount of the hashing power.....even those still held by the founders. 

So you have to divide the 60 GH/s by 10,000. 
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 

You need to post equivalent mhash based on today's difficulty. People only think in mhash.

Good point.

We are at nearly 60 GH/s....sometimes just over, but not sustaining yet while we work out a few trouble rigs. 



Oh man.

Lets say its 60 ghash even, and on August 1st you paid out on 3764 shares.

60000 / 3764 = 15.94 mhash. Did I fail at math somewhere along the way?
legendary
Activity: 2044
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I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 

You need to post equivalent mhash based on today's difficulty. People only think in mhash.

Good point.

We are at nearly 60 GH/s....sometimes just over, but not sustaining yet while we work out a few trouble rigs. 

legendary
Activity: 1162
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DiabloMiner author
I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 

You need to post equivalent mhash based on today's difficulty. People only think in mhash.
hero member
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Just after you posted, someone put a 0.72 big buy order... Smiley

I think they liked the post.


Can you make a post about expansion plans?
legendary
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July numbers have been finalized:

Income statement for July, 2012

Production (in BTC)   +804.16
Sale of equip.            -
Expenses                  -389.00
Dividends paid          -150.00
Net income                265.16


Also, a request for a balance shee was made, thus we comply!

Balance Sheet: Aug 1, 2012
Short-term Assets
Cash:  BTC 1050.65
Accounts receivable:  0
Total Short-term Assets:  BTC 1050.65

Long-term Assets
Capital Assets (mining equipment):  $32,478
Total Long-term Assets:  $32,478
Total Short-term assets:  BTC 1050.65
Total Assets:  $32,478 + BTC 1050.65



I am not sure what is wrong with the market, but at the current GLBSE price, an investor can buy a share of BTCMC for approximately .55 BTC per share when the company has a net asset value of approximately .40 BTC per share.  So completely ingoring future earnings (which are still increasing), liquidation value alone is nearly enough to cover any investment.   

How people are choosing to pay more for perpetual bonds over equity interest is beyond me.  Perhaps I am not spreading the message well enough? 


hero member
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I wonder why share value is dropping Sad

Also, I came late to GLBSE, I can get earlier dividends? (I am one of the Angels)

Not a lot of volume unfortunately.....it seems like all of the liquidity has been soaked up by Giga and a few Pirate bonds. 

I have your shares held in trust at the moment......would you like them tranferred to you on GLBSE?  If so, just give me your username. 

You already transferred the shares (at 3 of July I think) Smiley But not the dividends.

I am Speeder in GLBSE too Smiley

My apologies!

Would you like additional shares in lieu of the missed dividend, or simply the BTC? 



MORE SHAAAARES, SHAAAARES, SHAAAAAAAARES!!!
member
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yochdog,

Could you also provide a balance sheet statement along with your income statement each month?  My feeling is that since you don't pay out most of the income as dividends as other mining stocks do that  the current stock price isn't taking into account your cash on hand and potential for using it to grow your operations.
legendary
Activity: 2044
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I wonder why share value is dropping Sad

Also, I came late to GLBSE, I can get earlier dividends? (I am one of the Angels)

Not a lot of volume unfortunately.....it seems like all of the liquidity has been soaked up by Giga and a few Pirate bonds. 

I have your shares held in trust at the moment......would you like them tranferred to you on GLBSE?  If so, just give me your username. 

You already transferred the shares (at 3 of July I think) Smiley But not the dividends.

I am Speeder in GLBSE too Smiley

My apologies!

Would you like additional shares in lieu of the missed dividend, or simply the BTC? 

hero member
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I wonder why share value is dropping Sad

Also, I came late to GLBSE, I can get earlier dividends? (I am one of the Angels)

Not a lot of volume unfortunately.....it seems like all of the liquidity has been soaked up by Giga and a few Pirate bonds. 

I have your shares held in trust at the moment......would you like them tranferred to you on GLBSE?  If so, just give me your username. 

You already transferred the shares (at 3 of July I think) Smiley But not the dividends.

I am Speeder in GLBSE too Smiley
legendary
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yochdog, do me a favor: when you do the monthly dividends report, also list the equivalent mhash at that day's difficulty since you do fixed dividend output. For such a big holding of DMC's, I want to keep the mhash equivalent accurate.

Also, when is the full 0.05 dividend starting to be paid?
legendary
Activity: 2044
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I wonder why share value is dropping Sad

Also, I came late to GLBSE, I can get earlier dividends? (I am one of the Angels)

Not a lot of volume unfortunately.....it seems like all of the liquidity has been soaked up by Giga and a few Pirate bonds. 

I have your shares held in trust at the moment......would you like them tranferred to you on GLBSE?  If so, just give me your username. 
hero member
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I wonder why share value is dropping Sad

Also, I came late to GLBSE, I can get earlier dividends? (I am one of the Angels)
legendary
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July production looks like it came in at just over 804 BTC

We did not hit our 850 goal due to the massive increase in difficulty, and the fact that I went on vacation for a week and had several miners go down for a day or two. 

Final numbers will be posted soon. 
legendary
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Dividends have been paid!

Did the month not go well? I thought you were targeting to pay .02 per share rather than .015?

The month went great......but we decided to stay at .015 this month for 2 reasons:

1)  We were offered some great hardware, and jumped at the chance to buy it....thus reducing available funds
2)  The contract on GLBSE still states the dividend is .015, and we want to avoid further confusion on ths issue.  Hence, we will have Nefario change it prior to dividends going out next month. 

full member
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Dividends have been paid!

Did the month not go well? I thought you were targeting to pay .02 per share rather than .015?
legendary
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Dividends have been paid!
legendary
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Hey yochdog, happy dividend day! Cheesy
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OK Nefario says that he received an email from you on the 28th (of June I assume) re updating the contract to show the correct amount of interest, but you had actually made the split on May 31st a whole 4 weeks previously.

Nefario states that you are probably in breach of contract & I've now provided the additional info he requested on my buy dates etc to prove that you were undoubtedly so, therefor I am asking you once again to buy in these 507 shares at cost or I will have no alternative but to pursue you for this breach of contract.

Your original OP & the main thread for BTC-MC still inaccurately states .15 BTC per month interest as I've already pointed out & makes no mention at all of any share split & reduced dividend, perhaps you could at least correct that.

Copy by PM. to yochdog & to Nefario.

Angry neighborhood bastard mod here.

Nefario has a forum account, he can speak for himself.

I was just quoting from Nefarios post here & not speaking for him & if you want to mod something how about the scammers tag for yochdog as he is in breach of a contract & refuses to buy back in the fraudulently sold shares in his Co.

... or I can just flag your account for moderation by the admins.

BTCMC and Yochdog have done nothing wrong as far as I can tell, nefario just refuses to fix the oversight in the GLBSE software. Go try to get free money out of someone else, its not happening here.

On what grounds, I bought shares in good faith according to the contract that I saw & accepted, yochdog knew for 1 month that the contact was inaccurate, I would be more than happy to accept arbitration on this matter & as for calling me effectively a hustler well let someone unbiased arbitrate on that as well.

On what grounds? You're now harassing three different members of the community. You have a problem with the contract as listed on GLBSE? Take it up with nefario.

I'm sorry I don't follow you, which three people? yochdog for one I assume but I wouldn't call it harassment - just trying to get a fair resolution to a breach of contract, but if I'm not allowed to bring that up for mediation then fine I shall accept that's how things work around here & act accordingly. As for taking it up with Nefario as you can see from his post quoted here just now I have done & await his follow up - I will abide by what ever mediation & solution he suggests if yochdog agrees to do them same, or by any mutually acceptable respected forum member here.
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