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donator
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August 03, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
#43
The 5000 shares have now been issued, they will be up for sale in 25 minutes!
Make sure to place your bids Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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August 03, 2012, 10:53:04 AM
#42
Logic question.

Supposedly, someone offers to lock up 5k in escrow and then insure 5k pirate coins with it, paying 2.5% interest to customers on them. If the same person were to just place the 5k into BS&T and take the whole interest himself, he would never have more risk, but always more profit.

I don't see why anyone would make such an offer.
INAU does this through some very smart accounting Smiley
Which makes it more profitable to do this insurance then it would be for him to directly invest in Pirate. I can not give away the details of course, but trust me I have seen the math it works out Smiley
Btw where is my micon sign of approval? I haven't gotten one yet Smiley
//DeaDTerra
legendary
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August 03, 2012, 10:08:14 AM
#41
Logic question.

Supposedly, someone offers to lock up 5k in escrow and then insure 5k pirate coins with it, paying 2.5% interest to customers on them. If the same person were to just place the 5k into BS&T and take the whole interest himself, he would never have more risk, but always more profit.

I don't see why anyone would make such an offer.
donator
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August 03, 2012, 05:33:06 AM
#40
I am now verified on GLBSE Smiley
//DeaDTerra
donator
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August 03, 2012, 04:46:24 AM
#39
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

I'd just like to confirm this.  Tonight, INAU and I executed a GPG contract that effectively bought out all EIEIO.A holdings.  Those coins can be recalled from EIEIO on a two week notice.  It gives me latitude to interact directly with DeaDTerra should INAU go missing in action.
Thank you for the confirmation Smiley
Now I just need INAU to get his ass onto the forums and confirm the third part xD
//DeaDTerra
vip
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August 02, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
#38
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

I'd just like to confirm this.  Tonight, INAU and I executed a GPG contract that effectively bought out all EIEIO.A holdings.  Those coins can be recalled from EIEIO on a two week notice.  It gives me latitude to interact directly with DeaDTerra should INAU go missing in action.
donator
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August 02, 2012, 04:49:26 PM
#37
Waay underpriced IMO & BMC (by my calculations)

Which is why I'm buying some Cheesy
I want to offer something of value and that's beneficial for both sides. As I can't compete with interest rates we will compete in IPO price Wink
Awesome, place you bids now Cheesy

The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
I'm up for bidding on some of these, but I still want details on the insurance arrangements - what's in place now?
Right now me and INAU has the agreement that I will insure 5% of the face value of the bonds and INAU will insure the other 95%. These 95% will be placed with Imsaguy (as it looks right now), which will agree to hold them as a escrow. In case where Pirate defaults then agreed amount is transfered to me, that then buys back all the bonds at 1 BTC each Smiley
I will write a exact contract and make all three parties sign it.
//DeaDTerra

Will the funds placed in escrow be in an address that will be made publicly available? If not, buyers would be right to assume that the insurance funds will be invested elsewhere. Not that it's a bad thing, but there's always a chance of default, even from more conservative investments (such as mining). The ultimate insured PPT would be where the insurance fund sitting in cold storage away from everything else, including GLBSE.
No this will not be the case please read the google document provided for details Smiley
Imsaguy, will hold INeedAuserNames backings, and in the case where pirate defaults he will transfer them to me Smiley.
They will be making interest rate and there's of course a chance of a default, in this case the debt for the insurance still lies with INeedAUserName.
If both ImsaGuy and INeedAUserName defaults then, I will pay out my 5% and we will shut down (this is a VERY unlikely scenario, I highly doubt this will happen. It would take a three fold default for this scenario to happen)

Imsaguy makes his profits mostly from mining, which is why we chose him Smiley

Indeed that would be optimal for the purchaser of the bond but unfortunately not for the issuer. Hence we have chosen something inbetween, it's not high risk or connected to pirate but it still makes a nice interest rate Smiley
//DeaDTerra

I'm concerned as well with Goats offering and this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-wanted-100-insured-ppt-bond-glbse-97347
This will be answered shortly Smiley
//DeadTerra

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Bitbuy
August 02, 2012, 04:33:20 PM
#36
Could you please ask INeededAUserName to confirm in this thread that he insures 95% of the face-value of all bonds? It's not that I don't trust you, it's just better to have this written down somewhere. Thank you very much Smiley
donator
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August 02, 2012, 04:14:40 PM
#35
I am on my way home. all your questions and concerns will be answered asap.
newbie
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August 02, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
#34
I'm concerned as well with Goats offering and this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-wanted-100-insured-ppt-bond-glbse-97347
hero member
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August 02, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
#33
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
I'm up for bidding on some of these, but I still want details on the insurance arrangements - what's in place now?
Right now me and INAU has the agreement that I will insure 5% of the face value of the bonds and INAU will insure the other 95%. These 95% will be placed with Imsaguy (as it looks right now), which will agree to hold them as a escrow. In case where Pirate defaults then agreed amount is transfered to me, that then buys back all the bonds at 1 BTC each Smiley
I will write a exact contract and make all three parties sign it.
//DeaDTerra

Will the funds placed in escrow be in an address that will be made publicly available? If not, buyers would be right to assume that the insurance funds will be invested elsewhere. Not that it's a bad thing, but there's always a chance of default, even from more conservative investments (such as mining). The ultimate insured PPT would be where the insurance fund sitting in cold storage away from everything else, including GLBSE.
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0xFB0D8D1534241423
August 02, 2012, 12:04:09 PM
#32
Waay underpriced IMO & BMC (by my calculations)

Which is why I'm buying some Cheesy
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Bitbuy
August 02, 2012, 10:21:56 AM
#31
If there are enough bids, what's the minimum price the shares will be sold into? 1.00? 1.02? Something else entirely?
Thanks for the information Smiley

The Initial Share price  will be 1 BTC per bond

or are you asking something else?

Oh, yeah, sorry I missed the part where it said they would be sold for 1 BTC each. Found it now though Smiley
I knew the face-value would be 1 BTC each, but wasn't sure for how much they were going to get sold.
All good now, thanks Smiley
newbie
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August 02, 2012, 10:04:56 AM
#30
If there are enough bids, what's the minimum price the shares will be sold into? 1.00? 1.02? Something else entirely?
Thanks for the information Smiley

The Initial Share price  will be 1 BTC per bond

or are you asking something else?
hero member
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Bitbuy
August 02, 2012, 09:44:50 AM
#29
If there are enough bids, what's the minimum price the shares will be sold into? 1.00? 1.02? Something else entirely?
Thanks for the information Smiley
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 01, 2012, 01:33:04 PM
#28
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
I'm up for bidding on some of these, but I still want details on the insurance arrangements - what's in place now?
Right now me and INAU has the agreement that I will insure 5% of the face value of the bonds and INAU will insure the other 95%. These 95% will be placed with Imsaguy (as it looks right now), which will agree to hold them as a escrow. In case where Pirate defaults then agreed amount is transfered to me, that then buys back all the bonds at 1 BTC each Smiley
I will write a exact contract and make all three parties sign it.
//DeaDTerra
sr. member
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August 01, 2012, 01:25:48 PM
#27
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
I'm up for bidding on some of these, but I still want details on the insurance arrangements - what's in place now?
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 01, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
#26
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra

Yay! My friggin GLBSE balance won't update fast enoughhhh Sad
No need to hurry, the actual shares are not released until Friday Tongue

I also want to note to this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1058988
Where Nimda comes to the conclusion that GIPPT is worth between 1.2-1.3 BTC Smiley
//DeaDTerra
newbie
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August 01, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
#25
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra

Yay! My friggin GLBSE balance won't update fast enoughhhh Sad
donator
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
August 01, 2012, 01:10:33 PM
#24
The IPO has been released on GLBSE Cheesy
https://glbse.com/ipo/179
https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIPPT
So place your bids people Cheesy!
//DeaDTerra
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