Topic: Global famine (Read 514 times)

While it is a good point it is almost impossible that something like this is going to be done, there is simply too much inertia built into the system and we must remember that the owners of those big companies have huge political influence all over the world so they are never going to allow this to happen.

So what could be needed so as a society we decided to be way more careful in the way we exploited the resources that we have at hand? And the only way in which I could see something like that happening is if the current economic system collapsed and a new one had to be put in place.

this is the reason why my country refuses to export rice to asian countries,,, even when it would bring huge profits to the farmers .. this is done by the government to prevent a food crisis that will occur in 2023 .. our government has even started ordering farmers to grow other food sources such as cassava and several other varieties ..
being too dependent on one food ingredient is very dangerous, therefore from now on we must get used to eating with variety, for example with rice, sweet potatoes,, or wheat

I think there is a need for companies to stop also producing like CocaCola which needs millions of cubic meters of water to produce a carbonated drink that we don't need in our bodies. These companies by the way partnered with companies who have water rights as well  from the government.

Imperial Irrigation District (IID) in Colorado for instance have water rights from the state which provides water irrigation to a wide desert planting grass only to be shipped to China. While at the same time, Colorado is experiencing drought.

Just example https://www.alamy.com/desert-irrigation-in-southwest-arizona-for-farming-with-colorado-river-image4955677.html

Global famine will certainly not happen. But we need to understand that we need a lot of prudence for achieving food security. We can't rely on non sustainable methods. We need to take up green farming seriously. We need to take up hydroponics and urban farming as well to achieve sustainability. We can't just live our modern lives in comfy homes and expect that farmers will supply our food.

Even with rich countries, things like this seem difficult to avoid but it is very rare to be exposed because in this case when it comes to the surface, it is clear that this is a disgrace to the country itself, especially for a country that is very rich.
I think hunger today is something that is difficult to just let go, no matter how strong a country is, things like this will still happen in their area, it is even possible for every country to feel it.

That is only true for the countries that are rich and that also can produce enough food to feed their own population, for the rest of the world things are not going to be so easy, now the countries that still have some money could buy some food, but what about those countries which cannot produce enough food and also do not have money to buy? That is where the problems are going to concentrate and it would not surprise me at all if in those countries we saw massive protests against the government because of their inability to solve this crisis.

When will be world in a peaceful situation?
We come out of one situation and we feel into another. There was COVID - then came war - then came after affects of war and covid now there is feminine and we are hit be natural disaster as well. What a world we live in!

I think the problem of water shortage because of climate change and drought could be lessened by different means and not just 'you have to find a water source. For example, Israel's agriculture technology is way ahead of other countries that still follow the traditional method in which any drought decreases the crop yield. Technologies and innovations in the agriculture sector = lower the need for water, less affected by drought.

But of course, to have that technologies and innovations, you will need money which many Africa can't afford. This becomes a cycle where Africa will likely come out worst compare to the others if the lack of water and drought from climate change continue. Countries like EU and US, they've been applied a lot of those technologies to reduce the effect of water/drought.

These days we have flood in our country - there is food crisis - and people are homeless.
Lots of people lost their homes, cattle and lives - I hope this gets over soon, lots of agricultural land are submerged in water. Very sorry site.

That type of building pipelines everywhere and then keeping that pipeline clean and maintained would be a very difficult thing. I am not saying that it is impossible because most of the developed world constantly has that and there isn't a situation that should be wondered "how", they just spend a quite good amount of money for that infrastructure.

But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't really expect Africans to have the same type of deal. Doesn't mean that we will have that type of thing would cost a lot for poor nations, it is not just about building, like let's say billionaires end up paying for all the pipes, that still wouldn't be kept clean and eventually be bad after a while.

Unfortunately, that’s not the case, as we all know Africa is a huge continent all surrounded with water, and even places near the water is having trouble for 2 main reasons. One of them is the fact that water is not clean, meaning it could make you sick if you drink it and that means there would be a lot of people dying because they drank water that was bad for your health.

Second reason is that even though there are water sources near them, they can't really walk that much and come back every day, meaning there needs to be infrastructure, I mean not everywhere in EU has water too, but they have pipes bringing water to them, so Africa needs that too. This is just a common thing people don't know about.

A global famine isn't going to happen really fast, I am pretty sure that a miss in harvest for one time isn't going to easily cripple the supply chain, also there's probably millions of tons of grain storage so we might not feel the famine quickly. Unless every bit of the supply chain is crippled, then we won't have anything to worry.

Government efforts in every country that has non-environmentally friendly industries are urgently needed, but if some of those non-environmentally friendly industries can still benefit the state and can still provide income for the state, then the government will definitely find it very difficult to close such industries, unless by looking for more effective ways so that the industry can be more friendly to the surrounding environment.

Because every country clearly needs an industry that can process raw materials in its own country into a product that is ready to be used by citizens and can also be used by everyone outside the country. Because it can also really help the economic cycle in the country and can also trigger the presence of investors from other countries to enter our country.

Rationally, this can be the only reason they can say apart from the impact of Covid because none of them feel that they have failed so they are looking for other reasons so as not to be impressed that they failed in carrying out their duties.
It's really difficult to solve things like this because if we look at the past few years, hunger like this has already happened but the media and the government are covering this up and it's as if there is no problem in their country.

What surprises you so much about the current situation?
1. Climate change has ALWAYS been. There were droughts, there were cold temperatures, there were high temperatures, there were floods, ... This is nature, these are global processes, they have been and will be. They were before the appearance of man on earth, they will be after the death of mankind.
2. Lack of food. Well, it's not enough for everyone. It has always been that way, and likely always will be. Like it or not, there are many reasons for this. Do you want to change them? Please:
- the presence of terrorist and anti-human states, such as Nazi Germany, the bastard regimes of Pol Pot, modern Russia, etc. Moreover, if Germany reasonably grew and aimed at world domination, then the ex-socialist or communist regimes - their ideology is to destroy everything, poor life, the minimum human needs. None of these states created anything for themselves, but only destroyed those who want to live better. What we are seeing right now...
3. Uncontrolled birth rate and lack of social responsibility in many countries. No offense - I traveled a lot around the world, and I saw that in some countries, and these are exactly the countries where they are most hungry, the population thoughtlessly produces children, absolutely does not want to work and change something, they are used to and already simply demand from the whole world "give we are going to eat immediately, we are poor and unhappy, but we will not do anything ourselves, to change the situation, support us!!!

Tell me - why many countries, without having, for example, luxurious agricultural lands and conditions, can provide themselves and others with food, and many do not want to do anything, and only demand that they be served everything ready, and at someone else's expense?

As long as the listed problems exist (you just have to accept and adapt to the first), you can’t dream of any normal and average normal life on earth!

I hold same opinion, even if we are charitable and admit that climate change is indeed a force that can play against the policies of the governments in a significant manner, didn't the governments had decades to prepare themselves for what was coming?

As such in my mind they have no excuse at all about what is happening all over the world and the issues we are having with the increase on the price of food, the fact that a great deal of the food that we consume travels for thousands of miles was not sustainable model no matter how we look at it, historically people consumed what they could locally harvest, but that policy was abandoned long time ago and now we're suffering the consequences of it.

Apparently, climate change has become an excuse that politicians invoke most of the time to justify the failure of their programs and their failure at the head of their governments.
Economic policies may be inconsistent with the climate situation, but this cannot justify their failure. Conflicts, for example, in many third world countries that cause famines have nothing to do with climate change, and the cause of them is the one who fuels them and benefits from them, and I mean in particular the arms dealers and the wealthy of crises .

We can also contribute in our own little ways how to address this climate change.
Plant trees around your area. Recycle as much as possible.
Lessen your carbon footprint by being aware what are you doing in your every day life.
Just for instance, if you can use large packaging vs. per sachet of your needs.
As you can lessen your plastic usage, practice it also in your other activities.
We know, we can't totally rely it from our government, the awareness of this issue starts from ourselves.

Climate change that can't be predicted at this time is not only happening in Europe in other countries also so, it also causes crop failure and of course this is a result of global warming caused by an environmentally unfriendly industry which is still a homework for every community in the world. . and I hope the government provides assistance and solutions for them so that the economic balance continues

It's anything but climate change. Thanks to our selfish and greedy lifestyle, the climate has changed for worse. The rain isn't where it's supposed to be.

Sure, way of life of first world dwellers is to be blamed since it's the CAUSE of climate change. I agree with you.
You are basically arguing for a sustainable change to our ways. The only difference between you and me being, I am not a creationist but a pragmatist.