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Quote from: stompix on August 24, 2022, 08:59:29 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 24, 2022, 07:02:39 AM

Russia and Ukraine together account for nearly 30% of the global wheat trade. So almost a 3rd of all wheat produced are coming from two countries. Shocked

Source : https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-production-by-country

You're mistaken trade with production. The source you're mentioning says clearly it's 30% of the trade but it's only 16% out of the top 9 wheat producers considering the Eu is the second largest as a whole with 126,658,950 tons, so bigger than Russia and Ukraine combined, and their actual size is less than 8% considering global porduction.

Also, rather than clickbait titles about famine and the end of the world
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/german-farm-association-expects-bigger-winter-wheat-crop

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Germany's 2022 winter wheat crop will increase to about 21.8 million tonnes from 21.0 million tonnes last year, the DBV association of German farmers said on Tuesday. The hot weather was an advantage in some areas, allowing a rapid completion of harvesting of up to three weeks earlier than usual, the association said.
The harvest of grains of all types is expected to increase to about 43 million tonnes, up about 2% from last year, DBV said.

Oh crap, the end of the world and world famine won't come this year either, what a letdown for some grave robbers!

The European Union has more than twice the population of Russia and Ukraine combined. That is why the European Union produces a lot, but exports relatively little.

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Quote from: Raflesia on August 24, 2022, 05:27:50 PM

This is getting worse and worse and indeed seeing Sri Lanka taking to the streets due to one of them from the food crisis is a notice and an early start that makes several other countries also wary.
Now hunger is everywhere and this of course will have so much impact that it is quite difficult at this time to say that the world is doing well because the facts are not like that.

I think we have to accept the fact that the world is not doing well and there are a lot of serious problems,
famine, inflation, and also in Europe experiencing drought,
It can be said that the problems that occur are quite complex

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 22, 2022, 09:39:29 PM

Hard to believe we have a water crisis when 75% of the world is made of water. But there are droughts everywhere. How they are going to make things better when fresh water is very limited?

I didn't feel it. Maybe it wasn't critical as food shortage because as you said the world is made up of mostly water and the ones that has a water problem are away from the bodies of water but no worries because they receiving a help from different countries. Often times we will see celebrities going on those dry places and they are building up a water system.

Quote from: bittraffic on August 22, 2022, 09:39:29 PM

People can endure without electricity for days to months but without water and there is a food crisis, it's really that bad for what's coming yet we are very close to WW3.

This is what my parents are saying that it is better to live without electricity than to have no water because there was once a storm here and it causes for the water and electricity to stop functioning. Luckily there are well's from a far where we can get some water. When it comes to food crisis, I think that it is possible to survive as long as you are not lazy because you can always grow your own crops on your background.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 22, 2022, 05:23:19 PM

People are suffering for food all around, and in some countries people have come to the streets and fight against the ruling government. It have happened in Sri Lanka and more than ten countries line-up on the list. Anytime scenario could turn worse on those countries.

The major reason is connected with the war between Russia and Ukraine who were the major exporters of wheat. Another thing is the oil supply shortage which resulted in the increase of all basic needs. In my country the production is quite good, and particularly in my state the wheat production during this time have increased alot and farmers are very happy about it.

I guess OP is talking about a developing global famine in relation to a severe drought. It is basically a phenomenon of food shortage which is primarily brought about by a changing climate more than anything else. The invasion of Russia is also definitely contributing to food shortage in one way or another but it is only artificial. It is not due to climate change. It is basically due to some crooked imagination.

My country is also affected by climate change in many ways. Severe floods, extreme heat, and stronger typhoons are also wreaking havoc to our agriculture and overall food production. The rest of Southeast Asia must have also felt the effects of climate change in food production.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 24, 2022, 01:39:25 PM

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Quote from: jossiel on August 23, 2022, 12:54:34 AM

~snip~

Yet the news they were telling us years ago was that the ice in the north and south regions are melting and they are speculating the earth is sinking. Kind of the opposite might happen.

I still remember about the melting of big ice rocks. And it's always the reason why there are increase in sea levels.

Quote from: bittraffic on August 23, 2022, 08:44:53 PM

Did you know that world leaders are also expecting us to eat insects?
It's what they have been discussing also to solve hunger/famine. Yes. You will eat insects and be happy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghVxhgHGBgg

Exotic.

I have seen people eating insects but those that are proven to be clean and really edible ones. But if it's like just random insects and due to the famine there's really no option and we're like going to the point of apocalypse.

People will really have no option and there's much worse to it but, I'll let you take the guess.

Cambodia and Thailand have these delicacies already and they culture crickets in massive production because they were eating these insects for a long time including tarantulas. Easier for them to adopt. But for some culture, it may not be acceptable especially if they come from an abundant place and only knows burgers and hotdogs.

Quote from: STT on August 24, 2022, 06:59:31 PM

Global warming means new areas will be used for growing and old areas no long as useful. I can see the rise of fertilizer as important to establish these new areas, Ive been bullish on commodities overall for a while. We'll probably see demand vs supply ensuring higher prices for the next decade, weak currency only helps emphasize that effect.
Global warming, war and just a large world population requiring more food production all will equate to higher volatility in markets, we have less agrarian economies so those that do produce must achieve more, global commerce becomes more important when nations become more industrialized.

Corn will be easier to plant in drought, it doesn't need much water but its fertilizers today are the problem because it's also affected by inflation which farmers couldn't afford.

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Global warming means new areas will be used for growing and old areas no long as useful. I can see an accelerated rise to fertilizer all the various types as important to establish these new areas, Ive been bullish on commodities overall for a while. We'll probably see demand vs supply ensuring higher prices for the next decade, weak currency only helps emphasize that effect.
Global warming, war and just a large world population requiring more food production all will equate to higher volatility in markets, we have less agrarian economies so those that do produce must achieve more, global commerce becomes more important when nations become more industrialized.
There are possible break throughs that are not being mentioned, technology has enabled faster better more efficient growth of food. We have the possibility of bio diesel also, not just the known types of fuel but new production via algae growth; at present these hybrids are too fragile for mass production.

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This is getting worse and worse and indeed seeing Sri Lanka taking to the streets due to one of them from the food crisis is a notice and an early start that makes several other countries also wary.
Now hunger is everywhere and this of course will have so much impact that it is quite difficult at this time to say that the world is doing well because the facts are not like that.

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Global warming has little to do with the food shortages that the globe is currently seeing. The expectation that a modest rise in global temperature over the next 100 years would cause famine, not factoring in mitigation efforts, is absurd. You'd cause more damage trying to limit oil/gas energy expenditures in exchange for renewables in terms of global food production. Don't let the climate alarmists fool you.

This is strictly about the war. Russia is a large exporter of fertilizers and I believe Ukraine might be involved in some chemical manufacturing related to agricultural industries. I'm not sure how large their global exports are, but Russia has sizeable exports that could cause famine if production/export ceased. Some countries are beginning to hoard food as a result.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on August 24, 2022, 10:30:29 AM

However, the Global Recession is a very real threat. Both Famine and lack of food and water are major threats that we as a civilization face on this planet and it seems that very few are aware of these threats or deny the very real dangers. The three key questions we need to consider are together. Will there be food scarcity, Will this shortage lead to worldwide hunger And if famine does occur, how will we survive?

If possible prepare for the worst while hoping for the best for 1-4 years later if it lasts for some time.

This has been happening for a long time but the situation now is quite getting worse because the agriculture of most countries is currently affected by the global crisis as well as climate change. I guess it's time for everyone to look for alternatives and find another source of food for us to survive. We can't rely everything on the government.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 23, 2022, 08:44:53 PM

Quote from: jossiel on August 23, 2022, 12:54:34 AM

~snip~

Yet the news they were telling us years ago was that the ice in the north and south regions are melting and they are speculating the earth is sinking. Kind of the opposite might happen.

I still remember about the melting of big ice rocks. And it's always the reason why there are increase in sea levels.

Quote from: bittraffic on August 23, 2022, 08:44:53 PM

Did you know that world leaders are also expecting us to eat insects?
It's what they have been discussing also to solve hunger/famine. Yes. You will eat insects and be happy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghVxhgHGBgg

Exotic.

I have seen people eating insects but those that are proven to be clean and really edible ones. But if it's like just random insects and due to the famine there's really no option and we're like going to the point of apocalypse.

People will really have no option and there's much worse to it but, I'll let you take the guess.

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Time to eat bugs I guess, just as the Emperor wills it LOL. But really, if it all comes down to dying, we'd probably end up eating bugs while the rich would still manage to have access to steak. You will eat bugs and you will be happy.

Quote from: bittraffic on August 22, 2022, 09:39:29 PM

Hard to believe we have a water crisis when 75% of the world is made of water. But there are droughts everywhere. How they are going to make things better when fresh water is very limited?

People can endure without electricity for days to months but without water and there is a food crisis, it's really that bad for what's coming yet we are very close to WW3.

If only we can cheaply desalinate as much as we want without much environmental impact, no? Maybe that would become a thing for many countries in the future, not just desert countries.

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However, the Global Recession is a very real threat. Both Famine and lack of food and water are major threats that we as a civilization face on this planet and it seems that very few are aware of these threats or deny the very real dangers. The three key questions we need to consider are together. Will there be food scarcity, Will this shortage lead to worldwide hunger And if famine does occur, how will we survive?

If possible prepare for the worst while hoping for the best for a period of 1-4 years later if it lasts for some time.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 24, 2022, 01:07:01 AM

Global Warming, Climate Change, Food shortages, People protesting.
I think we can say that we are near to the end of the world already. Undecided

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War must be stopped. Deforestation must be stopped. Governments must focus on the agriculture right now. We need to help each other so that we will survive.

I agree that humanity must now unite to solve the pressing problem of global climate change. And even more so deliberately and on a large scale not to harm the environment, as Russia is doing now, having arranged the genocide of the Ukrainian people and systematically fires thousands of shells every day from all types of weapons across the territory of Ukraine. This is very harmful to the ecology in the center of Europe, littering the valuable black soils of Ukraine with heavy metals for a hundred years. Because of this, productivity in Ukraine will fall and the problem of hunger in the world will only worsen.
How to stop this war now, when the Putin regime understands only the language of force?

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 24, 2022, 07:02:39 AM

Russia and Ukraine together account for nearly 30% of the global wheat trade. So almost a 3rd of all wheat produced are coming from two countries. Shocked

Source : https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-production-by-country

You're mistaken trade with production. The source you're mentioning says clearly it's 30% of the trade but it's only 16% out of the top 9 wheat producers considering the Eu is the second largest as a whole with 126,658,950 tons, so bigger than Russia and Ukraine combined, and their actual size is less than 8% considering global porduction.

Also, rather than clickbait titles about famine and the end of the world
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/german-farm-association-expects-bigger-winter-wheat-crop

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Germany's 2022 winter wheat crop will increase to about 21.8 million tonnes from 21.0 million tonnes last year, the DBV association of German farmers said on Tuesday. The hot weather was an advantage in some areas, allowing a rapid completion of harvesting of up to three weeks earlier than usual, the association said.
The harvest of grains of all types is expected to increase to about 43 million tonnes, up about 2% from last year, DBV said.

Oh crap, the end of the world and world famine won't come this year either, what a letdown for some grave robbers!

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Russia and Ukraine together account for nearly 30% of the global wheat trade. So almost a 3rd of all wheat produced are coming from two countries. Shocked

Source : https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/wheat-production-by-country

Now, we have a double whammy... with the Russian Federation being the largest sunflower producer in the world with 15,379,287 tonnes production per year and the Ukraine coming in second with 15,254,120 tonnes yearly production. (These two countries are currently at war) Roll Eyes

People use Wheat as a staple food and they use cooking oil that are derived from Sunflowers to cook their food and to bake their bread. Tongue

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Quote from: amishmanish on August 23, 2022, 10:46:30 PM

I read sins of fathers are bestowed upon the sons.. the global warming caused by human actions has started to wreck hovac on us.. we have entered Holocene, an age of extinction. We need serious science to overcome these challenges. We need brilliant minds to come together and save us

There have been many ideas for solutions, but the government is once more the problem. The most affected regions' governments should take a more active role in this. If the government doesn't offer a long-term remedy, it will undoubtedly produce chaos shortly. I've read that there are famines happening all over the world, but I just can't imagine what the residents there are going through. It hurts a lot to have money to buy food but still have nothing to buy. Especially those nations whose whole economy relies on exports. Globally, this can be resolved by working together, but until we have each other's best interests at heart. I'm hoping a long-term remedy may be found shortly.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on August 23, 2022, 06:55:42 PM

Deforestation is part of it. Trees suck water out of the ground by their roots and evaporate it from their leaves producing water vapor. This later becomes rain. Chopping down forests reduces global water evaporation and rainfall. Another element to it is rising human population. Which results in greater water consumption.

These two trends combine to produce a double whammy of reduced rainfall and increased consumption. Which is also known as "drought". Reducing carbon emissions won't be enough to reverse the trend.

Communal gardens are one option for famine. Government subsidized farming programs are another. The state typically holds many acres of land in trust. Some of which can be converted into farmland. Volunteer farming programs to teach food growing and farming for free could find corporate sponsors to fund them. There are steps which could be taken to address global famine.

deforestation is currently not a thing. . a century ago yes. now. 2/3's of all farmland has already returned to forest.

If you Know the news is lying to you about bitcoin. why would you think they aren't lying to you about just about anything else?

Evaporation? almost ALL evaporation comes from the oceans? 70% water surface area and all that.

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Global Warming, Climate Change, Food shortages, People protesting.
I think we can say that we are near to the end of the world already. Undecided

JK

War must be stopped. Deforestation must be stopped. Governments must focus on the agriculture right now. We need to help each other so that we will survive.

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I read sins of fathers are bestowed upon the sons.. the global warming caused by human actions has started to wreck hovac on us.. we have entered Holocene, an age of extinction. We need serious science to overcome these challenges. We need brilliant minds to come together and save us

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Quote from: jossiel on August 23, 2022, 12:54:34 AM

Quote from: bittraffic on August 22, 2022, 09:39:29 PM

Hard to believe we have a water crisis when 75% of the world is made of water. But there are droughts everywhere. How they are going to make things better when fresh water is very limited?

Global climate change has something to do with these massive droughts. I can't imagine that this is happening for real right now. Yeah, the world is 3/4 of water and yet, we're experiencing droughts.

In some countries in Africa, I've read the news that it's around millions of people that are experiencing famine. This is for now, and not the past stats included which are being romanticized by international news outlets.

Quote from: bittraffic on August 22, 2022, 09:39:29 PM

People can endure without electricity for days to months but without water and there is a food crisis, it's really that bad for what's coming yet we are very close to WW3.

Yeah, water and food shortage is happening. That's why it will depend to the leaders of the world if they will participate to at least mitigate this crisis.

Yet the news they were telling us years ago was that the ice in the north and south regions are melting and they are speculating the earth is sinking. Kind of the opposite might happen.

Did you know that world leaders are also expecting us to eat insects?
It's what they have been discussing also to solve hunger/famine. Yes. You will eat insects and be happy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghVxhgHGBgg

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