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Quote from: Welsh on July 13, 2018, 06:45:34 PM

My reports get dealt with within a few hours anyway.

Still - it sounds like a waste of time for you and the mods, given your near-perfect record. Would be far more efficient to hand you the hammer or the big red button or whatever that thing is that makes spam disappear.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 13, 2018, 06:59:43 PM

263 bad. Some were for not explaining why I reported a few times, and had to report a few. That's what inspired the reporting effectively guide. I'm planning on creating a telegram account, and discord account dedicated to finding out these altcoins, and ICOs which are offering an incentive, and reporting them with the evidence. However, at the moment I've just been reporting the individual replies. Unless, I find them offering an incentive on their website or social medias.

That would be a deadend. I have heard that these businesses are run like how drug cartels do business IRL. They have secret groups and they do all the dirty work amongst themselves. Sure a few stupid ICOs tell people to post in their ANN thread to get paid. They are just a temporary thing. The real ones will never fall for this and this would be a longshot and may end up for nothing.

Quote from: Welsh on July 13, 2018, 06:59:43 PM

I'm a perfectionist by nature, although never come up with anything ever near perfect. It's a real struggle.

I understand that, as I was raised by such standards.

Quote from: Welsh on July 13, 2018, 06:59:43 PM

I'm not fluent enough in any languages to report effectively. Except Welsh, but there aren't exactly a thriving community of Welsh people here Cheesy

I know more than a few languages but I just never visit those local boards, I like posting here in the English sections only.

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Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 06:54:35 PM

Having almost 40k reports is no joke. And you have less than 500(?) bad reports. Doesn't matter. Your record is more than just perfect.

Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 06:54:35 PM

You know you sound like a nerd who is upset because he got 99/100 in math and is now depressed for losing 1 mark for handwriting. Angry

I'm a perfectionist by nature, although never come up with anything ever near perfect. It's a real struggle.

Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 06:54:35 PM

Really though, I don't see a lot of users reporting in the local boards. I maybe wrong, but almost anybody would give up reporting on local boards with no mods.

I'm not fluent enough in any languages to report effectively. Except Welsh, but there aren't exactly a thriving community of Welsh people here Cheesy

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Quote from: Welsh on July 13, 2018, 06:45:34 PM

39744 currently. Although, I have a lot of bad reports so I'm far from a perfect record. I would disagree though. Top reporters haven't been known to get appointed, and users who can speak other languages are probably much more likely to be appointed. I don't participate in any local boards or report in any.

Having almost 40k reports is no joke. And you have less than 500(?) bad reports. Doesn't matter. Your record is more than just perfect. You know you sound like a nerd who is upset because he got 99/100 in math and is now depressed for losing 1 mark for handwriting. Angry

Really though, I don't see a lot of users reporting in the local boards. I maybe wrong, but almost anybody would give up reporting on local boards with no mods.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 01:12:40 PM

Holy crap... he could replace all moderators at once.

Honestly, the moderators still have to deal with my reports, and are likely dealing with hundreds/thousands more from other people. I think users on this forum don't appreciate how much the moderators actually do.

Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 12:59:15 PM

Welsh has reported 36,000+ posts[/url] Embarrassed

( have a total of 100). I have seen eternalgloom being interested on moderating Altcoin section, but I don't know how much he has reported or anything at all. Any other recommendations?

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Og, can you post your report history,as in how many posts have you reported? Keep things a little transparent. Wink

Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 04:20:59 PM

LOL, yeah let's appoint someone who's using red walls of trust to settle personal quarrels. What could possibly go wrong with that...

Yeah that is not going to happen anytime soon, I hardly think anybody is going to be appointed, since theymos has to eventually decide on who will be appointed, we can only run polls or keep suggestions coming in.

Personally, I don't think anyone who has a lot of enemies should be part of the moderation team, be it for anybody.

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LOL, yeah let's appoint someone who's using red walls of trust to settle personal quarrels. What could possibly go wrong with that...

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Quote from: OgNasty on July 13, 2018, 03:31:47 PM

IDK why, but that looks a lot like a hat that would belong to you.

Are you trying to throw your hat into the ring?

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 13, 2018, 01:17:35 PM

That means he keeps them all quite busy Tongue

Perhaps that's the reason why grue and salty quit

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Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 12:59:15 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on July 13, 2018, 08:17:22 AM

I don't think polls are the way to go and are incredibly biased. People should be made staff on the willingness to report accurately and there are probably several good candidates who have thousands of reports between them.

Since, you're a global mod, you should be knowing on who reports a lot, and based on the highest number of reports by users, a poll can be run, on who fits the best in the category? Also, is there a way to make polls available only for Members/Full members and above? So that the abuse could be more or less be avoided.

I only have a general idea of who is reporting a lot and no definitive stats or figures and that's mostly what we should be going off, but I have recommend people before based on them being prolific in reporting. I had no idea Welsh had anywhere near that amount of reports though, but if staff are having to spend all day handling your reports then it would make sense for you to be on staff.

Theymos can create polls limited to certain member ranks, but regular users can't as far as I'm aware.

Quote from: LoyceV on July 13, 2018, 01:17:35 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 01:12:40 PM

But despite not being active on those boards you're still finding the shitposters that you list in your threads so giving you the delete button or the banhammer would make sense. Perhaps the patroller thing or whatever it is that would let you nuke newbies.

I'm not sure what "patroller" stands for nowadays. As far as I know, any Staff is patroller, and only Mod on their own subforum. But I'm not sure.

Patrollers are just like 'baby' mods who can only handle reports on newbies (and nuke them if appropriate). Not all staff are also patrollers but most are I think.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 01:12:40 PM

I'm not sure what "patroller" stands for nowadays. As far as I know, any Staff is patroller, and only Mod on their own subforum. But I'm not sure.
Finding spammers through patrol is quite easy, manually checking them is much more work.
I'd love to have my own nuke button, and I guess this will happen:

Quote from: LoyceV on July 12, 2018, 02:53:29 PM

While just banning "a few" of the Newbie spammers I listed, BitRentX ran out of nukes:

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 12, 2018, 04:27:16 AM

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@sapta: let me know when you're ready for more, I can keep you busy all day Cheesy

Aaaand, there goes my limit. I'll look into it again later tomorrow if there's some more countries to nuke left.

I didn't know there is such a limit for Mods. That means I can entertain more than one Mod, just nuking Newbies.
It doesn't feel right that a spammer can create more accounts than a Mod can ban. That means it's a lost cause.

Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 12:59:15 PM

Welsh has reported 36,000+ posts

Holy crap... he could replace all moderators at once.

That means he keeps them all quite busy Tongue

I think BitRentX is the one Mod who takes care of most of my Meta-thread-reports.

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 13, 2018, 12:39:57 PM

And as much as I like the endorsements, I don't think I'm very likely to become a Mod. I've seen much younger accounts with much less activity than me as Mod, but they're active on local boards. I'm not really active on any of the big spam boards.
I do know I've had a hand in getting a few thousand spammers banned though, so that's nice Cheesy

Quote from: pugman on July 13, 2018, 12:59:15 PM

Welsh has reported 36,000+ posts

Holy crap... he could replace all moderators at once.

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 13, 2018, 12:39:57 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 12:33:19 PM

Does anyone have a link to the latest post reporting stats? I would imagine Welsh and LoyceV are up there near the top. Shouldn't be any harm in assigning them to some shitposting megathread board, perhaps for a trial period.

I haven't seen fresh reporting stats in a while.
This is mine:

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You have reported 3475 posts with 98% accuracy (3181 good, 66 bad, 228 unhandled)

I think I report larger number of usernames in Meta threads than I report individual posts.

And as much as I like the endorsements, I don't think I'm very likely to become a Mod. I've seen much younger accounts with much less activity than me as Mod, but they're active on local boards. I'm not really active on any of the big spam boards.
I do know I've had a hand in getting a few thousand spammers banned though, so that's nice Cheesy

Its going to be really tough for you, especially after knowing Welsh has reported 36,000+ posts Embarrassed

( have a total of 100). I have seen eternalgloom being interested on moderating Altcoin section, but I don't know how much he has reported or anything at all. Any other recommendations?

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 13, 2018, 12:33:19 PM

I haven't seen fresh reporting stats in a while.
This is mine:

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You have reported 3475 posts with 98% accuracy (3181 good, 66 bad, 228 unhandled)

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I can fix this forum in about 15 seconds in a completely unbiased and trustworthy way. I just need access to the server's power cord Wink

If this were a vote I'd vote for pugman's alts. Does anyone have a link to the latest post reporting stats? I would imagine Welsh and LoyceV are up there near the top. Shouldn't be any harm in assigning them to some shitposting megathread board, perhaps for a trial period.

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Quote from: darklus123 on July 12, 2018, 08:38:20 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on July 12, 2018, 06:59:09 AM

I don't think new mods need to be found to replace everyone that leaves or are removed, but Rickbig was made a Global a few months back and he probably covers both their workload as he's very active in moderating. As I've been saying for years though, workload should be distributed around better. There's been no dedicated mod of big boards like Bitcoin Discussion for years and that certainly could do with it's own one. The alt coin section is getting swamped now and mprep was always overloaded as it's a huge board, but now that section is getting worse since he become a Global and doesn't have enough time to dedicate to it.

Because of this, I can only conclude that the needs of having more mods in this forum is a must thing to do. I have seen a lot of good members in this forum who are not biased. Why not make them a mod?
By the way they are acting towards this forum. We can easily say that they will surely not reject the offer?
What is actually making them not to be on that position?

I don't have the power to promote people to mods. All I can do is make suggestions when I think there are gaps that need filling.

Quote from: pugman on July 12, 2018, 07:05:21 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on July 12, 2018, 06:59:09 AM

I am thinking, if there is inadequate distribution of workload which seems to be the case, how about running a poll to vote for new staff members?

Quote from: TheQuin on July 13, 2018, 02:12:35 AM

Thanks for explaining this. I see now that it is not more global mods that are required but mods need to be assigned to some of the more spam inflicted boards that only either yourself or mprep can currently deal with.

Either/or would work, but delegating workload by sub board would probably be more efficient than just promoting more Globals as you just get swamped. The boards that don't have any mod or just a Global should be allocated one at least, especially the huge/most popular boards.

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Quote from: pugman on July 12, 2018, 07:05:21 PM

I would say a few boards are managed by Global mods(Bitcoin Discussion, Marketplace).

Does rank really make a difference here when it comes to reporting? I can only see this happening, when newbies are required to be nuked(which all staff can do), and normal can't ban Jr. Members and above.

Other moderators can only handle reports on the boards they are assigned to unless it is a newbie. So if the moderator of a particular board isn't around Jr. Member and above posts can only be handled by one of the global mods.

Quote from: hilariousetc on July 12, 2018, 06:59:09 AM

There's been no dedicated mod of big boards like Bitcoin Discussion for years and that certainly could do with it's own one. The alt coin section is getting swamped now and mprep was always overloaded as it's a huge board, but now that section is getting worse since he become a Global and doesn't have enough time to dedicate to it.

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Quote from: darklus123 on July 12, 2018, 09:27:45 PM

Quote from: Welsh on July 12, 2018, 06:08:22 PM

Quote from: darklus123 on July 12, 2018, 08:38:20 AM

Theymos has posted about this recently. Well, not directly, but you can definitely link the two together. He stated that its not a problem with financing or hiring/delegating users with more responsibilities to take the workload of himself, and others, but the trust that this requires.

Just because someone is unbiased doesn't mean they'll be good for the forum.

So basically this is all about how trustworthy this members are? Is theymos actually referring to how much trust can he put to this certain members? Or the trust system can actually be the key for theymos to decide if this certian members are capable to be on that position. Because if the trust system is enough then they are actually a lot of them who are not just having such a high trust rating but also been actively reporting.

Not the the trust system. That thing is doodoo. Probably whom he really trusts,amongst other things.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 12, 2018, 06:08:22 PM

Quote from: darklus123 on July 12, 2018, 08:38:20 AM