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legendary
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July 12, 2018, 06:05:21 PM
#29
I have been told by an extremely reliable source (I can't reveal the source but he's red, has two horns and a long pointy tail) that digaran is a sure bet for our next global moderator where he will make thousands upon thousands of dollars a day and sit high on a perch right next to theymos!!!
Hey this was supposed to be kept confidential! Not cool....your inability to keep secrets has been noted.
Don't worry. This just stays between me and my alts. No one will know about it.  Cool

How many boards only have a global mod assigned to them?

I've noticed since the new reports page is available that when I report a newbie that all moderators can deal with the report is usually handled very quickly but when I report a Jr. Member or above it often takes many hours or sometimes even a couple of days to get handled. That's what I'm basing my opinion that the global mods are overworked on.
I would say a few boards are managed by Global mods(Bitcoin Discussion, Marketplace).

Does rank really make a difference here when it comes to reporting? I can only see this happening, when newbies are required to be nuked(which all staff can do), and normal can't ban Jr. Members and above.

I don't think new mods need to be found to replace everyone that leaves or are removed, but Rickbig was made a Global a few months back and he probably covers both their workload as he's very active in moderating. As I've been saying for years though, workload should be distributed around better. There's been no dedicated mod of big boards like Bitcoin Discussion for years and that certainly could do with it's own one. The alt coin section is getting swamped now and mprep was always overloaded as it's a huge board, but now that section is getting worse since he become a Global and doesn't have enough time to dedicate to it.
I am thinking, if there is inadequate distribution of workload which seems to be the case, how about running a poll to vote for new staff members?

The boards that do need staff are: Economics,Trading Discussion, Bitcoin Discussion, and the whole Alternate Cryptocurrencies section.

Remove the global mods and Cyrus from all the boards they are managing alone, and put someone/s else to handle the board. That way, global mods would be able to work much smoothly. Because having their own board/s to manage, and handling other boards and issuing bans and handling PMs is a fucking pain in the ass.

I do know that theymos has trust issues on who he has to hire for staff, but there are users who actually care about this forum, and there isn't much to lose for both sides(theymos, and the staff he hires). Why not just hire some volunteers and see how things work out. Then make those volunteers a permanent staff. Just like the internships. Change needs to happen, or things would continue going awry.

If new mods are not being appointed, then posting restrictions will need to be applied to new and junior members. Some members have suggested the creation of 'mod bots', and maybe they could be created to handle newbie and junior reporrts.
Restrictions are not required at the moment. And there are bots handled by mods,they just don't work anymore.  That seemed to be the case for achow101's bot, don't know about Mindless Electron.

If there are sufficient mods, there would be no requirement for restrictions. Money is not the problem here. Trust is. Theymos said about the trust issue thing in December, its 7 months already.
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July 12, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
#28
Because of this, I can only conclude that the needs of having more mods in this forum is a must thing to do. I have seen a lot of good members in this forum who are not biased. Why not make them a mod?
By the way they are acting towards this forum. We can easily say that they will surely not reject the offer? 
What is actually making them not to be on that position?
Theymos has posted about this recently. Well, not directly, but you can definitely link the two together. He stated that its not a problem with financing or hiring/delegating users with more responsibilities to take the workload of himself, and others, but the trust that this requires.

Just because someone is unbiased doesn't mean they'll be good for the forum.
hero member
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July 12, 2018, 07:38:20 AM
#27
I don't think new mods need to be found to replace everyone that leaves or are removed, but Rickbig was made a Global a few months back and he probably covers both their workload as he's very active in moderating. As I've been saying for years though, workload should be distributed around better. There's been no dedicated mod of big boards like Bitcoin Discussion for years and that certainly could do with it's own one. The alt coin section is getting swamped now and mprep was always overloaded as it's a huge board, but now that section is getting worse since he become a Global and doesn't have enough time to dedicate to it.


Because of this, I can only conclude that the needs of having more mods in this forum is a must thing to do. I have seen a lot of good members in this forum who are not biased. Why not make them a mod?
By the way they are acting towards this forum. We can easily say that they will surely not reject the offer? 
What is actually making them not to be on that position?
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July 12, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
#26
If new mods are not being appointed, then posting restrictions will need to be applied to new and junior members. Some members have suggested the creation of 'mod bots', and maybe they could be created to handle newbie and junior reporrts.
legendary
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July 12, 2018, 05:59:09 AM
#25
They're not 'fired' per se, but as with most staff if you become inactive after x amount of time you usually have your mod status removed. Grue and Salty haven't really been active moderating for quite some time and both their mod payments have been zero for the past two months and grue's even longer than that, so that means they handled zero reports and probably why they were de-modded.

Should we not find a new mods first before removing inactive mods? Any update of to whom the spots were moved? I expect that there is already one who filled the position I am just not sure tho if that mod was newly appointed

I don't think new mods need to be found to replace everyone that leaves or are removed, but Rickbig was made a Global a few months back and he probably covers both their workload as he's very active in moderating. As I've been saying for years though, workload should be distributed around better. There's been no dedicated mod of big boards like Bitcoin Discussion for years and that certainly could do with it's own one. The alt coin section is getting swamped now and mprep was always overloaded as it's a huge board, but now that section is getting worse since he become a Global and doesn't have enough time to dedicate to it.

I've noticed since the new reports page is available that when I report a newbie that all moderators can deal with the report is usually handled very quickly but when I report a Jr. Member or above it often takes many hours or sometimes even a couple of days to get handled. That's what I'm basing my opinion that the global mods are overworked on.

They're handled more quickly because there are more of them. Pretty much most mods are already patrollers and there's only three Globals who have everything to deal with plus issuing bans and handling reported PMs etc.
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July 12, 2018, 02:08:53 AM
#24
In general, all Global mods do is help the moderators handling reports. Some global mods will also help with administrative duties such as temp bans, account recoveries and the like.

If there are sufficient section moderators, having additional global mods will not be necessary.

How many boards only have a global mod assigned to them?

I've noticed since the new reports page is available that when I report a newbie that all moderators can deal with the report is usually handled very quickly but when I report a Jr. Member or above it often takes many hours or sometimes even a couple of days to get handled. That's what I'm basing my opinion that the global mods are overworked on.
This may be the result of needing more board specific mods in certain boards. It may also be the result of certain mods declining to handle certain reports for one reason or another -- perhaps because they do not have time to investigate a report, because they do not agree with/understand an underlying rule, there is some conflict of interest, or some other reason.
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July 12, 2018, 02:00:24 AM
#23
In general, all Global mods do is help the moderators handling reports. Some global mods will also help with administrative duties such as temp bans, account recoveries and the like.

If there are sufficient section moderators, having additional global mods will not be necessary.

How many boards only have a global mod assigned to them?

I've noticed since the new reports page is available that when I report a newbie that all moderators can deal with the report is usually handled very quickly but when I report a Jr. Member or above it often takes many hours or sometimes even a couple of days to get handled. That's what I'm basing my opinion that the global mods are overworked on.
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July 12, 2018, 01:42:41 AM
#22
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We've been chugging along a few weeks with only 3 Global Moderators, and I don't think too many people noticed that Salty, and grue were inactive. Salty as been logging in, but hasn't done too much moderation work based on Hilariousnadco's comment. theymos recently made a comment that its not about the budget of the forum, but the lack of trust in delegating roles to users. So, I don't expect us to see new moderators/global moderators, and would assume that existing staff members will be promoted if there is a need.

Yeah, I have read comments about the budget not being the issue rather than lack of suitable candidates. It does seem like a lot of work for 3 people so I hope there are some moderators in line for a promotion soon.

In general, all Global mods do is help the moderators handling reports. Some global mods will also help with administrative duties such as temp bans, account recoveries and the like.

If there are sufficient section moderators, having additional global mods will not be necessary.
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July 12, 2018, 01:33:01 AM
#21
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We've been chugging along a few weeks with only 3 Global Moderators, and I don't think too many people noticed that Salty, and grue were inactive. Salty as been logging in, but hasn't done too much moderation work based on Hilariousnadco's comment. theymos recently made a comment that its not about the budget of the forum, but the lack of trust in delegating roles to users. So, I don't expect us to see new moderators/global moderators, and would assume that existing staff members will be promoted if there is a need.

Yeah, I have read comments about the budget not being the issue rather than lack of suitable candidates. It does seem like a lot of work for 3 people so I hope there are some moderators in line for a promotion soon.
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July 12, 2018, 12:59:00 AM
#20
They're not 'fired' per se, but as with most staff if you become inactive after x amount of time you usually have your mod status removed. Grue and Salty haven't really been active moderating for quite some time and both their mod payments have been zero for the past two months and grue's even longer than that, so that means they handled zero reports and probably why they were de-modded.

Should we not find a new mods first before removing inactive mods? Any update of to whom the spots were moved? I expect that there is already one who filled the position I am just not sure tho if that mod was newly appointed
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July 12, 2018, 12:12:41 AM
#19


I have been told by an extremely reliable source (I can't reveal the source but he's red, has two horns and a long pointy tail) that digaran is a sure bet for our next global moderator where he will make thousands upon thousands of dollars a day and sit high on a perch right next to theymos!!!
Hey this was supposed to be kept confidential! Not cool....your inability to keep secrets has been noted.
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July 11, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
#18


I have been told by an extremely reliable source (I can't reveal the source but he's red, has two horns and a long pointy tail) that digaran is a sure bet for our next global moderator where he will make thousands upon thousands of dollars a day and sit high on a perch right next to theymos!!!
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July 11, 2018, 10:56:26 PM
#17

@Welsh, are you interested in becoming a moderator? you seem to be trustworthy enough, if you show interest I'm sure theymos will hire you or are you a fan of making the current mods as global mods?
Another candidate I could think of would be Lutpin sorry LoyceV, they seem to be extremely interested in forum moderation stuff, take a look at their threads trying to moderate on behalf of inactive or lazy mods. Wink we need more moderators whether you like it or not.
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July 11, 2018, 04:32:40 PM
#16
Yeah, it could be something else like that. I do get feeling that 3 global moderators aren't enough given the level of spam this forum is subjected to.
We've been chugging along a few weeks with only 3 Global Moderators, and I don't think too many people noticed that Salty, and grue were inactive. Salty as been logging in, but hasn't done too much moderation work based on Hilariousnadco's comment. theymos recently made a comment that its not about the budget of the forum, but the lack of trust in delegating roles to users. So, I don't expect us to see new moderators/global moderators, and would assume that existing staff members will be promoted if there is a need.
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July 11, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
#15
They're not 'fired' per se, but as with most staff if you become inactive after x amount of time you usually have your mod status removed. Grue and Salty haven't really been active moderating for quite some time and both their mod payments have been zero for the past two months and grue's even longer than that, so that means they handled zero reports and probably why they were de-modded.

In the Portuguese section, one of the moderators has not been online since March. It's been over 14 months since he last wrote something on the forum. I do not believe we need another moderator since the other one is managing to keep the section spam-free. But when he is unable to access, we have a spam flood.
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July 11, 2018, 12:55:13 AM
#14
Why do you let him derail the thread?   Wink

Fair point. Normally I just hit the report to moderator link and write 'off-topic'.



I have seen grue and SaltySpitoon to be inactive for more than a while now(inactive as in spending less time on the forum, moderating). So the absence hasn't affected the spam to increase. Although, I could argue that with the launch of the new autoreply bot,which might have made the spam problem much worse than it already is.

Yeah, it could be something else like that. I do get feeling that 3 global moderators aren't enough given the level of spam this forum is subjected to.
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legendary
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July 10, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
#13
As long as Mitchell is still active - the Project Development section is turning into a spam board for ICO scams... I report 5-10 threads a day.
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legendary
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July 10, 2018, 07:29:29 PM
#12
bla bla bla

Why do you try and derail every thread into an off-topic discussion about DT?

Why do you let him derail the thread?   Wink


Ignore works wonders.
legendary
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July 10, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
#11
How about your main one? Grin
One extra number will do better job.
Shush. He is hiding behind a bush in fortnite, desperately waiting for season 5.   Tongue Don't reveal his spot.

If there are only 3 global moderators left that would explain why the spam problem has got so much worse recently. I've noticed reports staying unhandled a lot longer or indefinitely the last few weeks. The other staff can only moderate the boards they are assigned to and nuke Newbies. The legions of Jr. Member spammers seem to be left to their own devices at the moment.
I have seen grue and SaltySpitoon to be inactive for more than a while now(inactive as in spending less time on the forum, moderating). So the absence hasn't affected the spam to increase. Although, I could argue that with the launch of the new autoreply bot,which might have made the spam problem much worse than it already is.

They're not 'fired' per se, but as with most staff if you become inactive after x amount of time you usually have your mod status removed. Grue and Salty haven't really been active moderating for quite some time and both their mod payments have been zero for the past two months and grue's even longer than that, so that means they handled zero reports and probably why they were de-modded.
Please tell me, if I put a local rule on not allowing digaran to say anything in particular threads of mine and if he does, will he be banned?

Its sad that grue and Salty have been de-modded, hope they are alright IRL, and just not leave bitcointalk forever.

What did I do? Everybody knows I'm never anyone's alt Cheesy
#1 Joined chipmixer.
#2 Busted you know who's alts*.
#3 You're here. And you used emojis.  Roll Eyes

They were pretty inactive from what I can tell. I'm sure theymos would have them back in an instant if they could dedicate their time again. Both were top notch in my opinion. Probably better to promote existing staff than hire new ones to fill in the slot. Thanks for the endorsement though Tongue
I haven't seen much of grue, but I can say Salty was a great mod. Most of the staff(non global mods) are either inactive themselves or are busy managing their own boards. A few boards need moderators, but that's not gonna happen. But hey there is no harm in self promoting my alts.  Roll Eyes
Myself, Pugman, and yourself used emojis in our replies. 100% confirmed alt accounts.
True story.

It would be better if we could have the same system with default trust members, many of them are inactive, IMO they should be excluded from DT system after being inactive for some time. speaking of trusting people to moderate, we could really use some help regarding a few rogue DT1 members. because IMO trust system is more important than moderators, if mods do something wrong people could spot them very quickly but we don't know what is going on with some DT members and their inside deals.
Not true. xetsr was a great DT member, he has hundreds of legit tags, if he is removed, scammers would be free to scam again(not everyone reads untrusted feedback). If you have a problem with DT1 members, make another thread about it, tell your bullshit insights to theymos. I am sure, he will reply to you the first thing he sees such a thread.  Grin

And trust system is not important than moderators, and if you don't know why, you should leave

That would significantly decrease the weight they've given in their feedback, which is not necessary even if those members are inactive.  I would say that as long as it's not suspected that the account has changed hands, no action is necessary.  In other words, just because someone hasn't posted here in a while doesn't mean they're not trusted anymore.  On the other hand, if an employee fails to do work for X amount of time, it's only logical that they should be let go.
I remember, when Zepher was removed from DT, all his tags became untrusted and I believe Ecuamobi/Lauda/some other DT member had to spend their time re-tagging all those who Z had tagged.

Why do you try and derail every thread into an off-topic discussion about DT?
Why else? He is a DT investigator. His bullshit opinions are right on spot and always right.

Why do you let him derail the thread?   Wink
Its my mistake, didn't put a localrule for not letting digaran reply. I apologize for that.  Embarrassed
* I don't know who you know who is, so conspiracy theories in Reputation section please. Wink
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legendary
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July 10, 2018, 02:55:23 PM
#10
It would be better if we could have the same system with default trust members

Why do you try and derail every thread into an off-topic discussion about DT?

Why do you let him derail the thread?   Wink
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