Topic: Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC - page 10. (Read 22773 times)

Clearly the goat is a con. Anyone that does business with him is clearly insane.

Clearly let's just not reveal all the facts and just talk about them hypothetically. 

The contract states that the proceeds of the bonds put into your possession were not to be disclosed how they were invested/liquidated/etc.


How does anyone know what you claim is true?

Even if it is true your actions of making a payment plan and starting to pay Gurrty back over several weeks shows that you indeed believed you owed him something. Otherwise why pay in the first place if you truly believe you owed no debt to Gurrty?

You can't ride the fence on this of not believing you owed any debt to gurrty for several weeks then deciding you didn't.

Although I'm sure you enjoy riding the fence so you can defend yourself when either side of the argument comes up in questioning, many who are posting on this thread can see right through you goat.

Don't get me wrong,i have nothing against you or anything,but,if that's true what Gurrty said you have many reasons to be worried.
First of all i like to inform you that we already have completed 10+ crypto cases and all of them was pleasant for our custumer.
In other way,if Gurrty have something to hide,and we start that case,he will be the one who must be worried.
Not sure about the laws in Thai or US but here we have a special court which endup that kind of cases for less than month if everything is okay with the evidences.
Like i already said i am willing to START it for free if he got evidences for starting it and he is prepared for it,which obviously prove i am not here to merch or profit from anyone without result.
Believe me,i am not an idiot And that kind of rude "defence" from your part do not fit you...
I know from almost nothing to nothing about this,that's why i ask him to contact me and talk about what's going on and is that enough to start a case.
The court i have in mind already had many crypto cases and they are pretty familiar with it and how to check what they need to.
If he don't have anything to hide and can provide evidence then he is loosing time with disputes here.
Secondly,not sure why u are so worried when you are not guilty


Not sure what your contract is but when i find out,i will be able to answer all your questions.
I am not here to judge none of you,but helping the true goes transparent.
Its okay for me if he want to start that case to post and show the whole process public here in the forum with all the documents from our firm + the court ones about that case.
And i like to inform you that none of you are obliged to be European citizen to be sued in Europe.
Same as visiting the court about the case is also not obliged.
The accused have right to defend him self but also if he don't visit the court about the case,that won't end it and it can go thru without him (ofcourse that's not good idea for the accused).
I suggest both of you to clear this before it goes worst.
Because if he start the case against you,and it turns out that he owns you money not the inverse,then the court won't be lenient for the timewaste and the lies and the case can go with 220km agaisnt the plaintiff.
So once again,i will first meet the evidences,the claim and before we start if he wants to,i will explain him the risks and benefits.
The coin always got 2 sides and i am not ignorant to see only the one.
Goat,if you have nothing to be worried about,i suggest you to be more restrained with your speeches because believe me or not,even posts on forums can be count as evidence here.
This also applies to the Gurrty.
So once again,please,try your best to complete this without intervention of court,because if we start that case,the court will require all the evidences about this and it may go really bad.

Edit: I like to add just a last note.
The court not using English language,and the defendant may need translator because we giving such to the applicant.
The case can start from lower instance or go straight to Supreme court.
Just like to inform you that the assessment of the Supreme court cannot be appealed,but the lower instances can be up to 3 times before it goes to Supreme.
If the case start in the Special court,none of the lower instances or the Supreme court can appeal the decision.
So there is many ways to start this in favour to plaintiff if he have the right evidences.

Clearly.

So there was a contract and it was completed in full or there was no contract and only a draft or there's more to this or theymos owes gurrty or everything just depends on how you feel on that particular day.  ROFL

He got himself into this posting PMs, and making judgments about how much gurrty is owed despite later claiming he has no information about the topic. He also ended up with the assets and the coins. Theymos is an owner and a treasurer of GLBSE. He still hold our GLBSE coins. Since theymos has gurrtys coins if theymos thinks gurrty should get back the coins gurrty gave to theymos then theymos can give coins to gurrty. I however do not think Gurrty is owed anything at all and the contract was completed in full.

Also Smoothie went off topic about Pirate and since Theymos was a huge help to Pirate he got dragged into it that way.

But really theymos is the only one here who can return the coins and the assets. I never got BTC from Gurrty but theymos did. Trying to call this a BTC loan is just silly. 

This is interesting. When the contract gets voided by the court, will Gurrty have to return to me the 1,000 BTC at its current price or will he just have to give me back the fiat value of the BTC at the time? I assume all he would only owe me the fiat value at the time but has thee been any cases like this?

If you really are a lawyer I would love to work with you and see this case go to court. I would be very interested in what a real court who understands all of the information thinks.

Everyone here does not even have half of the information and does not even know what Gurrty got back. His assets went to shit when GLBSE went down so now he is taking an old draft of a contract and claiming he wants BTC now. Even though he never paid any BTC.

You guys are idiots to make a judgment you know nothing about. Think there is more to this? Think there is a reason why Gurrty waited years to bring up parts of this?
Do you really think he thinks he is owed anything? No if he really thought he was owed something he would do more than just bitch about it.

Come on Gurrty lets go to court and put everything on the table!

@ wachtwoord: I think gurrty is French. Can anyone confirm?

I don't understand why Theymos is dragged into this, he didn't sign any contract.


I have no dog in this fight, but in the last year, when Goat was accusing people of serious crimes,

he did once make a friend cry, literally. He was like a self-declared Torquemada.

It really did seem this would go on forever.


Then Goat announced he was deleting posts and was toning down his presence.

I knew something was up. Then Gurrty comes out of the woodwork, and opens Pandora's Box.


 
edit: I just read pankakke's refs in Goats feedback. I get it.

It couldn't hurt to dig through your PMs and forum posts.

The forum doesn't ban people any more. 
Nvm MP got banned recently.  Anyways what are all carrying on about, Goat is a very reasonable person. 

Is Gurrty a European citizen? If not, I don't see how this can work.

That's right,and here comes our part. We are European firm with European license and we represent our claimant.
When someone doing a crime,the court don't care is he European citizen or not.
Peoplest must start believe in the court and that the laws actually protect them as taxpayers.
Not sure why all of you are negative about starting case agaisnt the scammers?

At least someone needs to be European for that I would assume?

What jurisdiction?
As part of European Union and with our own laws,everyone can be sued based on proofs in civil case.
Defendant have right to defend his self in the court,but if he don't visit it,the case can continue even without him.
If the claimant won the case,and the court give his last words,like i said as part of European Union,the court can claim arrest via Interpol if the defendant is trying to hide or run away.
Yes we do have laws for bitcoins here,and yes we do pay taxes.
As taxpayer ofcourse you have rights and they are strictly protected from the laws.

he left me negative trust and called me a scammer for posting in this thread, theymos if you are reading please remove it from my account

thanks

Goat has always been a scammer.  The only reason anyone even knows who he is, is because he threw around a lot of BTC that he scammed through various GLBSE offerings.  I've been saying this for literally years now...  Why the entire community isn't aware that he is a scammer, I have no idea.  I wish I had kept better records of the BTC I lost in the various Tygrr crap offerings...  Might be worth doing some digging if there are actually funds to be claimed.

Looks like the truth is slowly coming out.

I think they live above their means and then run out of money and resort to loans or scams to keep living above their means.

People have to realize a currency with the traits of bitcoin will attract the lowest of the lows.