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Quote from: Tomatocage on May 30, 2014, 03:53:57 AM

Yeah man, it does seem pretty clear that yall did ink a deal for a redemption of 427 bonds before Pirate's ship had sailed. Mouse, the BTC value has changed drastically since then though, and I think it would be fair if you interpreted it as the cash value of 427 BTC was back then (around $5700 and change). That makes it easy since that's right around 10 BTC in today's money.

we made a deal for a value on a set date. How can this not be more clear?

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Quote from: Mousepotato on May 30, 2014, 03:47:46 AM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 03:42:39 AM

Lol. What is "it". The contract?

Btw I dont think you understand the deal. You can not change the formula two years later. Why do you think you can?

Oh but I'm not. I had simply corrected the formula to make sense. Why would I accept 427*4.85% when you were clearly paying 1.00 BTC per bond at the time. You even thanked Theymos for posting about that policy a few minutes ago. It was meant to be 427+(whatever the new payout rate is). But hey, you seem to be willing to go by the original "contract" of 427*(whatever the new payout rate is), which ended up being 4.85%. So pick your poison: Which formula do you want to go by?

why do you think you get to collect interest and not have any risk for the bonds?

You like gurrty are trying to play with words to claim you are owed something you are not.

also in that theymos quote i said i dont know but i think... clearly it was 0 in the end after i looked into it.

theymos is just selecting a few posts out of context to make me look bad but he still fails.

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Yeah man, it does seem pretty clear that yall did ink a deal for a redemption of 427 bonds before Pirate's ship had sailed. Mouse, the BTC value has changed drastically since then though, and I think it would be fair if you interpreted it as the cash value of 427 BTC was back then (around $5700 and change). That makes it easy since that's right around 10 BTC in today's money.

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 03:42:39 AM

Lol. What is "it". The contract?

Btw I dont think you understand the deal. You can not change the formula two years later. Why do you think you can?

Oh but I'm not. I had simply corrected the formula to make sense. Why would I accept 427*4.85% when you were clearly paying 1.00 BTC per bond at the time. You even thanked Theymos for posting about that policy a few minutes ago. It was meant to be 427+(whatever the new payout rate is). But hey, you seem to be willing to go by the original "contract" of 427*(whatever the new payout rate is), which ended up being 4.85%. So pick your poison: Which formula do you want to go by?

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Quote from: Mousepotato on May 30, 2014, 03:38:02 AM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 03:32:49 AM

Yes there was a conditional clause attached and you are the one who attached it. However if you attached it or not it does not matter. What you attached is exactly what the contract was for. Claiming you made a mistake when you attached the condition 2 years later is a bit weak. I did exactly what you asked me to do.

Any way these bonds were not guaranteed. Just ask theymos!

Ok, great! Now we're getting somewhere. Since you're apparently willing to stick with our contract, then 427*4.85% = 20.7095 BTC. It said nothing whether Pirate actually paid out; only what the new payout rate was. And don't worry about the bonds being guaranteed or not. That only comes into play in the event of a default, and we made our deal before that happened

Lol. What is "it". The contract?

Btw I dont think you understand the deal. You can not change the formula two years later. Why do you think you can?

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 03:32:49 AM

Yes there was a conditional clause attached and you are the one who attached it. However if you attached it or not it does not matter. What you attached is exactly what the contract was for. Claiming you made a mistake when you attached the condition 2 years later is a bit weak. I did exactly what you asked me to do.

Any way these bonds were not guaranteed. Just ask theymos!

Ok, great! Now we're getting somewhere. Since you're apparently willing to stick with our contract, then 427*4.85% = 20.7095 BTC. It said nothing whether Pirate actually paid out; only what the new payout rate was. And don't worry about the bonds being guaranteed or not. That only comes into play in the event of a default, and we made our deal before that happened

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Quote from: Mousepotato on May 30, 2014, 02:52:16 AM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:42:00 AM

Tell me what I did wrong. Tell me how I did not follow the agreement.

Well, you said you'd send out Tuesday (08/21/12). There was no conditional clause attached to it such as "I'll send out Tuesday only if Pirate makes his scheduled payout." That's the deal we had, and that's why I had sent you back the bonds to begin with. I completed my half of the bargain, and it's still not too late for you to follow through with your end of the deal Tongue

Yes there was a conditional clause attached and you are the one who attached it. However if you attached it or not it does not matter. What you attached is exactly what the contract was for. Claiming you made a mistake when you attached the condition 2 years later is a bit weak. I did exactly what you asked me to do.

Any way these bonds were not guaranteed. Just ask theymos!

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Thank you theymos!

I wanted to quote this because of your tendency to remove your posts once you realize you are helping me out.

Clearly MP did not want these back right away for 1 BTC. She even admitted today she wanted 1 BTC plus interest. She let it ride!

This is clear even from the "revised" formula.

BTW I did end up buying back shares. I'm sure you know how that worked out, lost my ass...

Thanks theymos for being the broker for this on GLBSE. Glad you made bank with the fees you collected and the profit you made from your inside knowledge and reading his PMs! By the way, what are you going to do with the GLBSE coin you still hold? Keep it for yourself?

Edit: just saw the begging address in your sig! You are too much theymos!

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I find it interesting that after the rate change, the prices on this bond dropped to a point that the actual return is roughly at 7% again. Cheesy

Definitely a steal, IMO.

I was thinking the same thing.

yeah very odd. i have been making reasonable time in paying people who want to sell at 1 btc. not sure why the panic selling. great deal for you guys.

hell, i might start buying some back

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Quote from: Mousepotato on August 17, 2012, 08:45:00 AM

Quote from: Rygon on August 17, 2012, 08:26:48 AM

I find it interesting that after the rate change, the prices on this bond dropped to a point that the actual return is roughly at 7% again. Cheesy

Definitely a steal, IMO.

I was thinking the same thing.

yeah very odd. i have been making reasonable time in paying people who want to sell at 1 btc. not sure why the panic selling. great deal for you guys.

hell, i might start buying some back

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Quote from: theymos on May 30, 2014, 03:06:46 AM

Here are some posts related to TYGRR.BOND-P that Goat deleted for some reason...

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i have said before if someone wants to sell i will buy at 1. they just need to let me know how much and give me a reasonable amount of time to get the funds to glbse.

thanks

Has this been revoked?

no

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Quote from: GeoRW on August 14, 2012, 02:29:11 PM

pirate is lowering his rates on some accounts (looks like bitcoin price increase finally cought him). Are your rates staying at 6.8%?

I don't know, i just found out myself. I'm not sure what I will get from Pirate. I will adjust as I said in the thread if the rates do get lowered.

There was a set rule forthis.

Thanks.

If your account is applied "BTC 25,000 + 5%," as would remain for TYGRR.BOND-P? This should be clear as soon as possible.

I just woke up and have not read the thread/contract but I think it will change to 4.85%

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Here are some posts related to TYGRR.BOND-P that Goat deleted for some reason...

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Quote from: Vandroiy on August 03, 2012, 08:48:23 AM

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i have said before if someone wants to sell i will buy at 1. they just need to let me know how much and give me a reasonable amount of time to get the funds to glbse.

thanks

Has this been revoked?

no

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Quote from: tbcoin on August 15, 2012, 10:06:14 AM

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Quote from: GeoRW on August 14, 2012, 02:29:11 PM

pirate is lowering his rates on some accounts (looks like bitcoin price increase finally cought him). Are your rates staying at 6.8%?

I don't know, i just found out myself. I'm not sure what I will get from Pirate. I will adjust as I said in the thread if the rates do get lowered.

There was a set rule forthis.

Thanks.

If your account is applied "BTC 25,000 + 5%," as would remain for TYGRR.BOND-P? This should be clear as soon as possible.

I just woke up and have not read the thread/contract but I think it will change to 4.85%

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Quote from: Mousepotato on May 30, 2014, 02:52:16 AM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:42:00 AM

Tell me what I did wrong. Tell me how I did not follow the agreement.

Well, you said you'd send out Tuesday (08/21/12). There was no conditional clause attached to it such as "I'll send out Tuesday only if Pirate makes his scheduled payout." That's the deal we had, and that's why I had sent you back the bonds to begin with. I completed my half of the bargain, and it's still not too late for you to follow through with your end of the deal Tongue

Goat's logic is quite warped. I highly doubt he will take this ^ seriously.

Now that he has gotten his shiny penny why should he? He has been able to make money off of many "suckers" like you.

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:42:00 AM

Tell me what I did wrong. Tell me how I did not follow the agreement.

Well, you said you'd send out Tuesday (08/21/12). There was no conditional clause attached to it such as "I'll send out Tuesday only if Pirate makes his scheduled payout." That's the deal we had, and that's why I had sent you back the bonds to begin with. I completed my half of the bargain, and it's still not too late for you to follow through with your end of the deal Tongue

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:44:24 AM

Well I got some real life stuff to do. If you guys can get your shit together and make a case about me scamming or whatever I will come back and deal with it.

anyway keep trying smoothie and theymos!

Cool

I don't have to try. Your reputation here is quite obvious. Roll Eyes

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Well I got some real life stuff to do. If you guys can get your shit together and make a case about me scamming or whatever I will come back and deal with it.

anyway keep trying smoothie and theymos!

Cool

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:16:32 AM

Do you not understand that it was not guaranteed?

O RLY?

Quote from: El Cabron on August 03, 2012, 04:04:42 PM

Bond face value is 1 BTC.
If BTCST defaults the bond will be worth 1 BTC.
If BTCST does not default the bond will be worth 1 BTC.

Wrong bonds dumbass.

Quoted for reference.

Haha theymos removed his post.

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Quote from: Mousepotato on May 30, 2014, 02:40:34 AM

Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:31:10 AM

Me and Pirate? hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

I think you mean you and GLBSE.

I had no problems with GLBSE when I transferred my bonds over to you for redemption. You even acknowledged receipt and said you'd send out payment. It's all right there in black & white, so to speak. And yes I know there was a large amount of risk involved with a 7% weekly return, and that's why I wanted to get out. Up until that point, nothing was amiss and Pirate was paying on time like clockwork. Like I said, it was just really bad timing.

Look, I'm not even mad and don't really want to argue about it. If you want to make it right and honor the deal we agreed upon (or any amicable variation thereof), that'd be awesome and that would be exactly the Goat I've come to know since I first signed up here. At this point I'm even open to the deal you sent me in PM, but it's really up to you what you want to do.

Tell me what I did wrong. Tell me how I did not follow the agreement.

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Quote from: El Cabron on May 30, 2014, 02:31:10 AM

Me and Pirate? hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

I think you mean you and GLBSE.

I had no problems with GLBSE when I transferred my bonds over to you for redemption. You even acknowledged receipt and said you'd send out payment. It's all right there in black & white, so to speak. And yes I know there was a large amount of risk involved with a 7% weekly return, and that's why I wanted to get out. Up until that point, nothing was amiss and Pirate was paying on time like clockwork. Like I said, it was just really bad timing.

Look, I'm not even mad and don't really want to argue about it. If you want to make it right and honor the deal we agreed upon (or any amicable variation thereof), that'd be awesome and that would be exactly the Goat I've come to know since I first signed up here. At this point I'm even open to the deal you sent me in PM, but it's really up to you what you want to do.

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