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Quote from: Raoul Duke on December 21, 2012, 01:18:10 PM

Quote from: franky1 on December 21, 2012, 08:39:06 AM

heifer international do not supply the goats.. their partners do

guess who the partners are.

OXFAM

heifer make profits.. oops that word should not be used when they call themselves non-profit.. so lets use the phrase, huge managerial labour costs.

so get rid of the middleman and put the cash through OXFAM send 2 goats to the needy instead of just 1

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Source please?

ok image from heifer website

the quote "this great investment allows our partners".blah blah

so lets check out the partners
http://www.heifer.org/inside/our-partners
click on non-profit and top of the list is bothar

ok now look into bothars partners
scroll down to the title "walumba Women's Draught Cattle Project" and oxfam is listed as partners
http://www.bothar.ie/index.jsp?p=191&n=206

i know that bothar is linked with oxfam for the supplys stuff.. but heifer is not a goat SUPPLIER.

heifer ask for £120.. but oxfam/bothar only ask for £50/£55.. so i would prefer to give oxfam the £120 so they can buy atleast 2 goats and 40% towards a 3rd goat. which adds up the more that is donated.

heifer keeps atleast £60-£70 of funds..

i got nothing against a charity that atleast gathers some money for worthy charities as its better then no money.. but for the most effective use of the money. give it to oxfam

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Quote from: franky1 on December 21, 2012, 08:39:06 AM

heifer international do not supply the goats.. their partners do

guess who the partners are.

OXFAM

heifer make profits.. oops that word should not be used when they call themselves non-profit.. so lets use the phrase, huge managerial labour costs.

so get rid of the middleman and put the cash through OXFAM send 2 goats to the needy instead of just 1

Quoted for importance.

Source please?

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Quote from: Spekulatius on December 21, 2012, 10:27:23 AM

Quote from: BkkCoins on December 21, 2012, 12:11:03 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 20, 2012, 11:15:52 PM

.25833333 of goat unless it's a Greek entree.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~

I couldn't help but think of this...

Exactly what I thought.

For the life of me, I can't see the humor. Please explain so I too can enjoy it. I don't even know how to Google for the answer.

Thanks in advance.

~Bruno K~

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Quote from: BkkCoins on December 21, 2012, 12:11:03 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 20, 2012, 11:15:52 PM

.25833333 of goat unless it's a Greek entree.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~

I couldn't help but think of this...

Exactly what I thought.

franky1

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heifer international do not supply the goats.. their partners do

guess who the partners are.

OXFAM

heifer make profits.. oops that word should not be used when they call themselves non-profit.. so lets use the phrase, huge managerial labour costs.

so get rid of the middleman and put the cash through OXFAM send 2 goats to the needy instead of just 1

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Great to see two of the coolest things in the world (bitcoin and goats) together at last. Well done coin lab, keep up the good work!

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 20, 2012, 11:15:52 PM

.25833333 of goat unless it's a Greek entree.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~

I couldn't help but think of this...

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Quote from: misterbigg on December 20, 2012, 09:30:19 PM

To be quite honest, I'm not sure if all this talk about giving goats / mining for goats is serious, or if it is satire.. WTF?!

As others said, quite serious.

My family/relatives actually pool money together every Christmas to give to needy families around the world. We've done the goat thing several times as part of it.

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on December 20, 2012, 10:15:07 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on December 20, 2012, 09:30:19 PM

To be quite honest, I'm not sure if all this talk about giving goats / mining for goats is serious, or if it is satire.. WTF?!

It's serious!

What, because an agrarian life is so far from most people's reality, they think it doesn't exist?

You're right-- people ALL OVER THE WORLD live like Americans. They live in planned subdivisions with names like "Deer Creek", "Whispering Valley" with identical-looking, poorly constructed 2-story houses a few feet from each other and surrounded by 8-foot-tall privacy fences, with garish consumer items in the lawns, large trampolines in the backyard, etc. They all have strip malls a couple miles from their house, homeowner's associations, and they work at retail establishments for a living. They drive there in their sedans and SUVs that they're leasing, etc. You get the idea.

No, plenty of countries actually grow/raise their own food. Usually because they don't have a choice, and that's the way it's always been done for them. They haven't been "Americanized" yet.

If you own a goat you must be a terrorist.

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Quote from: CoinLab on December 20, 2012, 08:20:43 PM

Re: Phinneas's last post (not quoting because lots of images)

We've chosen to donate through Heifer International because of their great reputation, and are aware that they are other services which donate goats at a lower cost. However, we trust that Heifer is spending the $120 per goat wisely: they include education on how to raise the goats and ongoing support to the families who receive them, which is likely why it costs them more than their "competitors".

To be clear, I have no issue with CoinLab or Heifer International. I just wanted to present a couple facts in the strange Phinnaeus Gage way. Hopefully, no harm.

I did a lot of reading about the "Give a Goat" programs available, and you are correct that some go the extra mile. I'm fully intrigued with this goat thing, but also took into the consideration of the video content of which I linked.

That said, is there any way HI would consider accepting Bitcoin as a donation option on their site? If they did, Bitcoin 100 is in position to send them BTC100. That currently equates to donating exactly 11.258333333 goats, but I have some pull and can round it up to 12 goats, for nobody would want .25833333 of goat unless it's a Greek entree.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~

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Quote from: misterbigg on December 20, 2012, 09:30:19 PM

To be quite honest, I'm not sure if all this talk about giving goats / mining for goats is serious, or if it is satire.. WTF?!

It's serious!

What, because an agrarian life is so far from most people's reality, they think it doesn't exist?

You're right-- people ALL OVER THE WORLD live like Americans. They live in planned subdivisions with names like "Deer Creek", "Whispering Valley" with identical-looking, poorly constructed 2-story houses a few feet from each other and surrounded by 8-foot-tall privacy fences, with garish consumer items in the lawns, large trampolines in the backyard, etc. They all have strip malls a couple miles from their house, homeowner's associations, and they work at retail establishments for a living. They drive there in their sedans and SUVs that they're leasing, etc. You get the idea.

No, plenty of countries actually grow/raise their own food. Usually because they don't have a choice, and that's the way it's always been done for them. They haven't been "Americanized" yet.

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To be quite honest, I'm not sure if all this talk about giving goats / mining for goats is serious, or if it is satire.. WTF?!

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Re: Phinneas's last post (not quoting because lots of images)

We've chosen to donate through Heifer International because of their great reputation, and are aware that they are other services which donate goats at a lower cost. However, we trust that Heifer is spending the $120 per goat wisely: they include education on how to raise the goats and ongoing support to the families who receive them, which is likely why it costs them more than their "competitors".

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Some of those orgs seem to be getting their goats through some middle men. Wink

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Quote from: SgtSpike on December 20, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

If you are switching to this because mining for Bitcoin is unprofitable, then you are only fooling yourself.

Scenario 1)
- You give $100 to the goat-needing families

Scenario 2)
- You mine 5 BTC for Coinbase, using $100 of electricity.
- Coinbase converts the BTC to USD.
- Coinbase sends $67.50 to the goat-needing families.

And no one sees the problem with this?

Now, if mining is still profitable for you, then all power to ya! Just don't fool yourselves by thinking that this is a good idea if you can't already make money Bitcoin mining.

Also, Coinlab hasn't mentioned if 100% of the proceeds are indeed going to these needy families, or if they are taking a cut for "server" usage or something. Would be nice if they put what percentage that cut is up front.

Quote from: Spekulatius on December 20, 2012, 07:26:45 PM

Nice PR stunt.
Not trying to talk the effort down or anything, but if you really care for those people, you may wanna think of a way to generate goats once ASICs arrive.

Nice idea anyway!

P.S.: Has anyone told @Goat yet?

My two posts to date are not meant to derail this thread or diss the efforts put forward by CoinLabs. I quoted the above because I believe I have another solution regarding goats, but will start another thread to present the idea.

~Bruno K~

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Nice PR stunt.
Not trying to talk the effort down or anything, but if you really care for those people, you may wanna think of a way to generate goats once ASICs arrive.

Nice idea anyway!

P.S.: Has anyone told @Goat yet?

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Quote from: CoinLab on December 20, 2012, 07:08:20 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on December 20, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

If you are switching to this because mining for Bitcoin is unprofitable, then you are only fooling yourself.

Scenario 1)
- You give $100 to the goat-needing families

Scenario 2)
- You mine 5 BTC for Coinbase, using $100 of electricity.
- Coinbase converts the BTC to USD.
- Coinbase sends $67.50 to the goat-needing families.

And no one sees the problem with this?

Now, if mining is still profitable for you, then all power to ya! Just don't fool yourselves by thinking that this is a good idea if you can't already make money Bitcoin mining.

Also, Coinlab hasn't mentioned if 100% of the proceeds are indeed going to these needy families, or if they are taking a cut for "server" usage or something. Would be nice if they put what percentage that cut is up front.

We are donating 100% PPS for all shares earned by people running the goat client. So, no fee at all, we're actually taking a slight loss on this (due to orphaned blocks). In addition, CoinLab is kicking this off by donating one full goat and our test-machine's 7970's hashing power.

This is mostly just a fun project for the holiday season while everyone is in the giving spirit. (And to possibly introduce some people to the idea of Bitcoin mining who aren't familiar with it).

If you cant mine profitably anymore, we would love to hear that you're donating to Heifer directly: we're hoping this will both raise money for and awareness of their great organization. Please feel free to post in this thread if you do!

Thanks for the response! I am passing this along to family who might be interested in donating their GPU power...

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Quote from: SgtSpike on December 20, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

If you are switching to this because mining for Bitcoin is unprofitable, then you are only fooling yourself.

Scenario 1)
- You give $100 to the goat-needing families

Scenario 2)
- You mine 5 BTC for Coinbase, using $100 of electricity.
- Coinbase converts the BTC to USD.
- Coinbase sends $67.50 to the goat-needing families.

And no one sees the problem with this?

Now, if mining is still profitable for you, then all power to ya! Just don't fool yourselves by thinking that this is a good idea if you can't already make money Bitcoin mining.

Also, Coinlab hasn't mentioned if 100% of the proceeds are indeed going to these needy families, or if they are taking a cut for "server" usage or something. Would be nice if they put what percentage that cut is up front.

We are donating 100% PPS for all shares earned by people running the goat client. So, no fee at all, we're actually taking a slight loss on this (due to orphaned blocks). In addition, CoinLab is kicking this off by donating one full goat and our test-machine's 7970's hashing power.

This is mostly just a fun project for the holiday season while everyone is in the giving spirit. (And to possibly introduce some people to the idea of Bitcoin mining who aren't familiar with it).

If you cant mine profitably anymore, we would love to hear that you're donating to Heifer directly: we're hoping this will both raise money for and awareness of their great organization. Please feel free to post in this thread if you do!

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Quote from: SgtSpike on December 20, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

If you are switching to this because mining for Bitcoin is unprofitable, then you are only fooling yourself.

Scenario 1)
- You give $100 to the goat-needing families

Scenario 2)
- You mine 5 BTC for Coinbase, using $100 of electricity.
- Coinbase converts the BTC to USD.
- Coinbase sends $67.50 to the goat-needing families.

And no one sees the problem with this?

I guess people like this just because it's kinda novel and people like to feel they're helping directly. This goes the same for real world donations. Lots of people get excited about canned food drives when, in reality, it'd be much more economical and productive to just give straight up money to the donation center.

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If you are switching to this because mining for Bitcoin is unprofitable, then you are only fooling yourself.

Scenario 1)
- You give $100 to the goat-needing families

Scenario 2)
- You mine 5 BTC for Coinbase, using $100 of electricity.
- Coinbase converts the BTC to USD.
- Coinbase sends $67.50 to the goat-needing families.

And no one sees the problem with this?

Now, if mining is still profitable for you, then all power to ya! Just don't fool yourselves by thinking that this is a good idea if you can't already make money Bitcoin mining.

Also, Coinlab hasn't mentioned if 100% of the proceeds are indeed going to these needy families, or if they are taking a cut for "server" usage or something. Would be nice if they put what percentage that cut is up front.

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