Topic: God is in Control - page 2. (Read 612 times)

Now we got you BADman decker with your dirty fingers in a cookie jar. Dishonest person and Copernican cultist. Telling other people to believe what Bible says, while you don't.

the king is being made by god, the power of the king granted at the mercy or wellwishing of god, however there are some obstacles.

even presidents have power granted only by god.

regards

^^^ But how do you know that the EU will be king?     

Gods will is that the EU will be the future heavyweight in the west. not the nihilistic usa and its gangbangers.

or the french, english or russian nazis

When a person sanctions his own slavery, and you don't, you are taking freedom away from that person.

When God sanctions the slavery of that person, God is upholding that person's freedom.

If you don't want to be a slave, and you don't get paid as much as your boss, you had better quit. If you don't, you are contradicting yourself.

God wants peace and well being for all people. Since many of them want slavery, He is giving them what they want. It brings about peace.

You are simply not up to speed in your attempted badmouthing of the God you don't want to believe in, but can't help but believe in.

And he sanctioned slavery.

Holy my ass.  Any decent human being is better than your Bronze Age God.

The God Who created the universe that operates perfectly, never failing in even one tiny law of physics. This God is perfect. The fact that He is perfect in everything and throughout Himself, shows that He is holy.

There are so many gods, so how do you know which is the correct one?

I believe in Mother Nature, and her ability to constantly improve the environment, and the rich diversity of life on it. She has already solved the coronavirus problem, and people are recovering. However we can't leave it alone, so we will continue to inject poison and disease into people's arms to enrich the bankers. This will create an even more crippled population ready for the next pandemic.

Consider 1 Samuel 28:15:
Samuel was a great prophet of God, although there were some that were greater. He died and went to Heaven. Yet, when Saul had the witch of Endor - https://www.biblehub.com/niv/1_samuel/28.htm - bring Samuel's spirit up, Samuel said, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?" So, how could Samuel's spirit have been brought up, since he was already in Heaven?

To answer this (there is a lot of confusion among Bible scholars), consider Hebrews 4:12:
It is the soul that is saved. The spirit is earthly in its doings... at least to a great extent. While the earth stands, those that die in Christ are given temporary homes (white robes, righteousness), while awaiting the Judgment day - Revelation 6:9-11:
The white robes include a temporary spirit of righteousness, until the time of the resurrection. Then the body will be perfected, and the spirit, soul, body, and mind will be one in each person again... in perfection.

Has Bitcoin fallen yet? Has humanity failed yet? Both have been stronger at times, and weaker at other times. Humanity will never fail entirely because God will reserve some people for Himself. Bitcoin will go down with the crash of the earth... if it is still around when the crash comes.

God is in control. How? Through the physics of the universe that He made. Cause and effect, and miracles now and again. God's intervention is here all the time. John 5:17:

I suppose the people who died has finally discovered what true "freedom" is right? Basically being freed from this world.

Didn't Jesus himself talked about this when talking about who's responsibility it is when people die when a tower fall over them?

Consider Bitcoin who has control of it? Its creator made it in a way that it could grow and prosper without his/her intervention, yet clearly stated it could fail.

Can humanity fail? Yes. Does it have free will? Yes.

Its not about control, its about design.

You have heard of a corporation. A corporation might have many members. When the treasurer, for example, signs a corporation check, she is acting as the corporation. When the corporation trustee fixes light bulbs in corporation buildings, he is acting as the corporation in this capacity. Many corporate members; one corporation.

God is one. Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are Members of God. When they act in their capacities, it is God acting. One God; three Members.

No matter how much a person understands that God exists and that there is one God, if He doesn't recognize that there are 3 persons in that one God, He is looking at a false God in his own mind.

You are right that God controls everything People will never be able to control themselves Without its decree it would not be possible to move a leaf on a tree no matter how much people use technology unless God wants it. When we do what He does He sees everything and observes all of our good and evil deeds Allah is One and the Unique.

Daddy is sitting in his easy chair, watching TV. Little daughter climbs up on his lap and starts playing with Daddy's fingers. Then she lifts Daddy's hand over to his drink on the side-table. She wraps his fingers around the glass, and proceeds to lift Daddy's hand with the glass in it. Then she turns Daddy's wrist, and dumps the contents of the glass all over Daddy's lap.

Was Daughter strong enough to lift Daddy's hand? Was she capable enough to wrap Daddy's fingers around the glass? Could she lift the hand with the glass in it?... she is barely able to lift the glass alone. Wasn't it really Daddy who moved his hand and arm, working with his little daughter out of love?

Same with everything we do. God does it with us out of love. Everything. Few people have enough strength to do telekinetics. But even TK is just the tip of the power needed to move the iceberg.

I am not an atheist but don't blame God for each and every thing happening in this world.If he is real then he is busy watching all the planets and aliens so he might only have few minutes to plan what should happen in this world.

Why do you suggest that I don't know that the Bible isn't a book of scientific facts? It is, however, a book of facts. It seems a little that you don't realize that science is a gathering of information, not a grouping of facts. Science theories are absolutely stated by science people to NOT be facts... even though they might contain many facts at times.

So, is any of your un-factual Bible to be understood as facts? Or should we understand it as science fiction? After all, things like talking snakes and talking donkeys and God speaking the universe into being, these all seem like science fiction, don't they? If this is the way you feel about the Bible, is there anything factual in it at all?

Either you take the Bible at face value, or throw it away. But, nature and not the Bible, shows us that God exists. That's why there are so many religions around. Not recognizing God through nature is way more of a religion - a religious training - than observing God through nature. The Bible is simply a book of power that gives us details about the God we see in nature, but the details that we don't.

Check into the history of the Bible, the facts about how it is penetrating the world, and the history of the people who wrote the Bible. There is power there, of the kind that doesn't come about by coincidences.

I spent 18 years of my life learning about this God guy.  One thing that was consistent you don't seem to understand is that the Bible is NOT a book of scientific facts.  In fact, every priest or nun I ever spent time with in school specifically stated that the Bible is not meant to take as literal facts but as teaching of god to help guide humans in to a better/more moral life lived.  My own uncle who was a priest nearly his entire life.. said the same. 

Well educated on this subject.  Seemingly more so than yourself.  I think religion is great in many ways, helps guide people to a better life through it's teaching, mostly...but it's also fiction and outdated and has plenty of nonsense to go a long w/the good. I guess I will just have to deal w/going to hell. Sucks.

oh badecker.. seems you swapped freeman cult for church cult.

when will you ever have an independant thought of your own instead of quoting outdated subjects

You misunderstand what God is doing and what it is all about.

Adam and Eve were made in the image of God... essentially God-like.

Then they disobeyed God, turning against Him by eating the fruit. But what they really did was to turn against themselves when they turned against God. After all, nothing can destroy God but God. Nothing can destroy the image of God except the image itself... since God doesn't want destruction.

Then God came in the form of Jesus and took the punishment of pain and death for everyone. This means that Jesus gave people their life back, from death. But people seem to want to jump back into death (Hell) by disregarding the gift of life God is re-giving them.

I feel sorry for you. You want life and Heaven. But you are killing yourself, and rejecting the only way you can be saved. And you want to blame God because He doesn't do it your way. God offers salvation for you in the best way possible, and, because of what people are, maybe the only way possible.

Get into the Gospels in the New Testament of the Bible and see what Jesus did for you... and be saved.