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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

From odd it's very obvious that the chances of fighter A winning is very bright then why risking your bet on the undergod it is just like betting Norwich to win against Chelsea assuming you don't know both teams. Although the odds for the likely or potential winner is small compare to the undergod however that is why accumulation of bets is allowed, alternatively you can accumulate two or more bets to earn a decent profit rather than risking or betting blindly.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

I will go to low odds even though the profit isn't high but I think that best choice compared full rely on the luck because chooce fighter B and end up losing all the money, but I do research before place the bets see their stats and also read the news about the opinions of observers but this is only as an additional reference before finally deciding which fighter to choose.

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A little research can help you to decide in that kind of situation. Thats the edge of sports betting compared to other gambling games, we can somehow predict who's going to win depending on the background and previous fights of a player (team) so we can get an idea.

If you like to take risk then go for the underdog, otherwise, go to the people's champ. For me, it depends on their background, underdog doesnt necessarily mean he's not capable of winning, its just that he is not the favorite.

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If the comparison is like that, I personally will not choose the underdog because odds of 1.3 are odds which for me are already very low which means, the fighter is certain to win in my view. Although indeed, sometimes the underdog can be a winner, but that doesn't happen often or can be said to be rare if only seen in one tournament in the same circle. But sometimes with capital that is ready to be spent, at least it will also make bettors will bet for the underdog and by doing so, the situation can also greatly affect bettors in betting.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 26, 2021, 07:09:47 PM

It doesn't happen online but I throw some money on fighters or teams that I do not know for the sake of having fun with friends. I picked underdogs since I am going to gamble blindly and the money I bet isn't a significant amount anyway. I lose most of the time by the way hehe.

Because most of the underdogs are treated as the ones who will likely to lose. Grin

But in this year's boxing matches, there were a lot of upsets that did happen. But we can't say that it will always be that way. Anyway, with the current NBA season, I noticed that even if you bet on the underdog, there's high chance that they will win the game.

If you are not worried about the amount you will bet on underdog, then, go for it. If you are lucky, you have good winnings but if not, that's fine, no big deal. But I prefer to bet on underdog if I know he or the team has the chance to upset the opponent.

It's not in all cases though but the underdogs currently come with much surprises this days. I will still gamble my instinct out except in a situation where I can predict the strength of the underdog then I would take my time to analyse but where I can't decide I would place a double bet. So that which ever way I wouldn't be in a complete loss.

I would normally analyze the fighters even watch their previous fights to see which of them has more strength to survive with agility to last 5 rounds if necessary and sort of.

consider also their teams, sometimes changing coaches happens before the fight so this must be added in analyzation because this will bring big effect from that fighter and how they will counter the opponent , this happens several time as the training course changes from the previous coach .

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The statistics of fighters will always be the basis of our bets. But the question above is whether to bet an unknown underdog against an unknown crowd's champ. Seeing some fights that accidentally upset a champ seem satisfying to watch and also a big win due to the odd.

Wondering how does that Underdog being Unknown and champ Unknown tabulate ? would you please explain this ?

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Quote from: Zilon on October 26, 2021, 07:59:30 PM

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Quote from: Yogee on October 26, 2021, 07:09:47 PM

It doesn't happen online but I throw some money on fighters or teams that I do not know for the sake of having fun with friends. I picked underdogs since I am going to gamble blindly and the money I bet isn't a significant amount anyway. I lose most of the time by the way hehe.

Because most of the underdogs are treated as the ones who will likely to lose. Grin

But in this year's boxing matches, there were a lot of upsets that did happen. But we can't say that it will always be that way. Anyway, with the current NBA season, I noticed that even if you bet on the underdog, there's high chance that they will win the game.

If you are not worried about the amount you will bet on underdog, then, go for it. If you are lucky, you have good winnings but if not, that's fine, no big deal. But I prefer to bet on underdog if I know he or the team has the chance to upset the opponent.

It's not in all cases though but the underdogs currently come with much surprises this days. I will still gamble my instinct out except in a situation where I can predict the strength of the underdog then I would take my time to analyse but where I can't decide I would place a double bet. So that which ever way I wouldn't be in a complete loss.

I would normally analyze the fighters even watch their previous fights to see which of them has more strength to survive with agility to last 5 rounds if necessary and sort of.

The statistics of fighters will always be the basis of our bets. But the question above is whether to bet an unknown underdog against an unknown crowd's champ. Seeing some fights that accidentally upset a champ seem satisfying to watch and also a big win due to the odd.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 26, 2021, 07:09:47 PM

It doesn't happen online but I throw some money on fighters or teams that I do not know for the sake of having fun with friends. I picked underdogs since I am going to gamble blindly and the money I bet isn't a significant amount anyway. I lose most of the time by the way hehe.

Because most of the underdogs are treated as the ones who will likely to lose. Grin

But in this year's boxing matches, there were a lot of upsets that did happen. But we can't say that it will always be that way. Anyway, with the current NBA season, I noticed that even if you bet on the underdog, there's high chance that they will win the game.

If you are not worried about the amount you will bet on underdog, then, go for it. If you are lucky, you have good winnings but if not, that's fine, no big deal. But I prefer to bet on underdog if I know he or the team has the chance to upset the opponent.

It's not in all cases though but the underdogs currently come with much surprises this days. I will still gamble my instinct out except in a situation where I can predict the strength of the underdog then I would take my time to analyse but where I can't decide I would place a double bet. So that which ever way I wouldn't be in a complete loss.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

In that case, I should keep my $10 and wait for the next fight. I don't make any bets if I don't even know who they are, what is their skills and their records. Maybe if you just believe in luck and never mind if you lose or not, then you will put your bet. And let if that be going to happen to me, I still choose Fighter A. he is the favorite fighter and we have to go along with the flow.

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Quote from: Yogee on October 26, 2021, 07:09:47 PM

It doesn't happen online but I throw some money on fighters or teams that I do not know for the sake of having fun with friends. I picked underdogs since I am going to gamble blindly and the money I bet isn't a significant amount anyway. I lose most of the time by the way hehe.

Because most of the underdogs are treated as the ones who will likely to lose. Grin

But in this year's boxing matches, there were a lot of upsets that did happen. But we can't say that it will always be that way. Anyway, with the current NBA season, I noticed that even if you bet on the underdog, there's high chance that they will win the game.

If you are not worried about the amount you will bet on underdog, then, go for it. If you are lucky, you have good winnings but if not, that's fine, no big deal. But I prefer to bet on underdog if I know he or the team has the chance to upset the opponent.

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It doesn't happen online but I throw some money on fighters or teams that I do not know for the sake of having fun with friends. I picked underdogs since I am going to gamble blindly and the money I bet isn't a significant amount anyway. I lose most of the time by the way hehe.

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Go all in when you are sure but this kind of behavior does signify that you are really being too desperate which is really bad when it comes to gambling.

Safe bets doesnt exist on gambling world thats why you should be careful and aware on how thing works which risk is always there.

Betting on underdog does really requires trust out of your own analysis but dont anticipate that u-turns could happen anytime.

even if you are really confident going all in is not the best option unless you are going all in with a limited part of your total bankroll
let's say all in with what you have separate for this specific day or bet

the main rule is staying in the game

Staying on the game and making your capital goes a little bit longer or you could simply make out more bets or you do enjoy then thats what matter most.
Going all in is something that you would make yourself put in trouble since on the time you would lost then all of those capital will vanish in an instant
and theres no fun to it thats why you should really be keen on how you do manage your bankroll and at least able to enjoy it out.

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Quote from: Hamphser on October 26, 2021, 05:33:33 PM

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Go all in when you are sure but this kind of behavior does signify that you are really being too desperate which is really bad when it comes to gambling.

Safe bets doesnt exist on gambling world thats why you should be careful and aware on how thing works which risk is always there.

Betting on underdog does really requires trust out of your own analysis but dont anticipate that u-turns could happen anytime.

even if you are really confident going all in is not the best option unless you are going all in with a limited part of your total bankroll
let's say all in with what you have separate for this specific day or bet

the main rule is staying in the game

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But what if your instincts is saying the underdog has no chance to beat the favorite?
Because if you are closely following those individuals involved, you will know their capability in that particular sport.
So for me, this is a case to case basis. Every game or match is different and you can only decide this factor if you know the sports and the athletes well.
But if not, just take your chance betting your $10. Anyway, if you feel you can afford that to lose, it is not big deal whatever the results is.

Sports betting is definitely a case to case basis depend on how you assess a player or fighter on your own. Everyone has a right to choose and make their own bets without following the crowd provided that you know how to look for a better fighter which you would bet on. A $10 amount of bets will definitely give a x2 or x3 of return betting on underdog provided that the underdog player or fighter has a potential that you see on him. But in my case I used to follow the crowd favourites, I want assurance.

That’s the risk of taking bets on underdog, you don’t get the crowds to place bet on them simply because they are on the last spot and having a fight with a top teams, the probability to lose is very high for the underdog. If you want to have at least a small assurance to win, always go for the top teams just analyze very well on what bet you are going to make.

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I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

Well, if it's only $10 I'd risk it on the underdog but betting with a huge amount of money I'd rather be more picky on who to bet and that probably on the champ. This is a very subjective question since every gamblers are unique, there are those risk-takers and those who are into the less risks kind of gambling.

Exactly.

It's definitely gonna depends on what you're after. If you care about the remaining $10 you have, you're gonna bet it on the champ because it's a wise decision then you could play risky after you won using your profits. But I gotta say playing using a small amount is a waste of opportunity in making huge profits, but if you didn't have a choice then you could play slowly and patiently.

You'd be careful on what you bet on and say it's a safe bet but remember it's still a gamble and it always carry a risk so if it's only a small amount on the line better to risk it all in. If it's a money you can afford to lose in the first place then betting it on on fast or slow way depends on the circumstances, if your instincts tells you I'd risk this it this time then it's your decision that matters.

Go all in when you are sure but this kind of behavior does signify that you are really being too desperate which is really bad when it comes to gambling.

Safe bets doesnt exist on gambling world thats why you should be careful and aware on how thing works which risk is always there.

Betting on underdog does really requires trust out of your own analysis but dont anticipate that u-turns could happen anytime.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

Go bet on underdog if it does have that possibility of winning but if not then go with the favorites even though it is likely to win but not an assurance that it will really be or a sure win thats why some people do get wrekt when they do go all in with the favorites even though the
odds are way too low.There are people who do still dive in with less 1.1 odds which i dont see for it to be worth.Ill do always go with
above 1.5x or something and below than that then i do simply skip out.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

Never ever try to find connection between odds and people's favorite on unknown matches. As an experiment, I have done the following at past: Bet on two very unknown soccer team that had an odd of x10. Very strangely, two of them greened my ticket but 3rd one failed and the score on 3rd one was 2-1 against my team. If the 3rd one would succeed, I was winning $1000 via $1.
But again, there are moments where teams are unbeatable and undergo doesn't work. For example, some years ago Real Madrid didn't lose a single match in La League, the result was always win or draw and you know, the odds on Real Madrid are almost always low because of how great this team is and how good their performance is.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

I can correlate this with a recent cricket match that is played b/w India and Pakistan on 24 Oct 2021 at DUBAI (ICC T20 Worldcup). India was hot favorite or you can say people champs while Pakistan was underdog. The odds are 1.4 for India and 2.8 for Pakistan.
In the match, Pakistan completely outclassed India and beat them very easily. Those who bet on Pakistan have a party that night. The point is you have to understand the situation that who is a strong candidate for winning.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

Well, if it's only $10 I'd risk it on the underdog but betting with a huge amount of money I'd rather be more picky on who to bet and that probably on the champ. This is a very subjective question since every gamblers are unique, there are those risk-takers and those who are into the less risks kind of gambling.

Exactly.

It's definitely gonna depends on what you're after. If you care about the remaining $10 you have, you're gonna bet it on the champ because it's a wise decision then you could play risky after you won using your profits. But I gotta say playing using a small amount is a waste of opportunity in making huge profits, but if you didn't have a choice then you could play slowly and patiently.

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Always go with the boxer that you think will win regardless of the betting odds.

If your basis is to choose whether you will bet on the favorites or underdog, that's what you called blindly betting because you didn't analyze, instead, you are gambling without a basis to determine which team has a good chance to win.

of course you will think that the favorites have a higher chance to win, but that's how the public sees, and they are not right all the time, the reality is they are wrong most of the time.

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Quote from: cabron on October 24, 2021, 12:12:20 AM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog.

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?

Very easy.

It's not about the profit you could make but the profit you could have. The champ's odd might be smaller than the the challenger but the chances of winning is much higher than the losing chances so obviously people who wants to play it safe would go for the champ. There's no point on betting to the underdog especially if you have no more money remaining.

Your $10 could be a $100 if you're gonna be patient and smart by betting to the superior fighter.

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