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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1078. (Read 2032266 times)

legendary
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July 17, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
The physical gold to paper gold disconnect can not commence until some paper gold issuers can not make good on their promises (to pay the gold price in dollars for the paper). That is, some of them have to go bancrupt.
sr. member
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July 17, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
Coming soon: US imposes sanctions on the whole world.
FNG
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July 17, 2014, 12:07:14 PM

It's already destroyed, Obama and future criminal presidents are just putting icing on the cake. Rome didnt die overnight.
Yes..I should say trying his best to cause a $ dump and trade / oil deals outside the $ rendering it worthless
sr. member
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July 17, 2014, 12:05:55 PM

It's already destroyed, Obama and future criminal presidents are just putting icing on the cake. Rome didnt die overnight.
FNG
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sr. member
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July 17, 2014, 11:56:01 AM
Gooooooooollllld

Jeez, it's been a wild week

I wonder how long it's been since it's been this volatile

Biiiiiiiiiiitcoin- up 1.71%
gold- up 1.49%

Bitcoin is rising nicely. Gold and Silver have been brought back under "control" again, for now.
sr. member
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July 17, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
$4 billion in futures sales couldnt move gold down more then 35 bucks. And now this quick rebound ? The jig is up. Desperate shorters shooting their last wads. Keep listening to Goldman Sachs, wait for your 800 gold its right around the corner lol
FNG
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July 17, 2014, 11:48:40 AM
Gooooooooollllld

Jeez, it's been a wild week

I wonder how long it's been since it's been this volatile

Biiiiiiiiiiitcoin- up 1.71% 1.85%
gold- up 1.49% 1.25%


watch out gold.
Ha..Normal in bitcoin land...to see gold move up, down, and up so much in a week is pretty insane
legendary
Activity: 1764
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July 17, 2014, 11:40:49 AM
Gooooooooollllld

Jeez, it's been a wild week

I wonder how long it's been since it's been this volatile

Biiiiiiiiiiitcoin- up 1.71% 1.85%
gold- up 1.49% 1.25%


watch out gold.
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:37:55 AM

Expedia has no choice but to follow
legendary
Activity: 1904
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July 17, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
> but I don't see anyone who is close enough yet.

BRICS + Iran and Iraq  possibly France and others in Europe may fall in line

I agree these are the countries that are getting there.... but China is still too dependent on the US markets.  And of the BRICS, China is the cornerstone.
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:24:34 AM
and all you need to give them is your name and email:

http://geeksided.com/2014/07/17/cheapair-com-processed-1-5-million-bitcoin-sales/
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
Gooooooooollllld

Jeez, it's been a wild week

I wonder how long it's been since it's been this volatile

Biiiiiiiiiiitcoin- up 1.71%
gold- up 1.49%
FNG
hero member
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Merit: 500
July 17, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
Gooooooooollllld

Jeez, it's been a wild week

I wonder how long it's been since it's been this volatile
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:07:50 AM
higher lows, with a huge intraday reversal:

FNG
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July 17, 2014, 11:06:53 AM
Third world continue filling up their coffers with dollars:

"Reserves Break $3 Trillion Mark in Emerging Markets"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-17/reserves-break-3-trillion-mark-in-emerging-markets.html
I wouldn't call SK 3rd world..

But it's the cost of doing business in the current $USD centered world. Wait until they have other options...chickens($) come home to roost.

it's always amazed me that foreigners would plow so much back into UST's for such an indebted nation as the US.  i understand it at one level since we are the world's largest economy with the largest consumer base and military, but come on.  when does it all end?  i guess it makes sense to debt enslave America.  altho, i'm sure we'll default.  how they don't get this is beyond me. 

imo, the end game is if and when the UST market cracks.  that's the big kahuna for the US. 
Export countries need to buy $ and sell their currency to remain competitive. USD is the yardstick so to speak. Being the yardstick grants a huge amount of printing powers. "our currency, your problem" I'm sure you've heard the quote before. The oil producers keep the game in-tact, china kept it in tact until they built up their large scale world producing manufacturing base + cities. No need for the USd anymore with the manufacturing base of the world and now that the Russians are winning the gas wars to feed Europe.  I'm just interested in who Germany sides with. France seems to have already selected Russia / China





Exactly, we still have to wait because nobody wants to bankrupt half their export business.  Demand needs better global distribution before the transition can be made.  Yes there are great costs to continuing to do business this way, but the costs are less than the costs of a transition at the moment.  Of course, once one big player makes the move the cost of continuing the game will go up for everyone else and the dominoes will start to fall.  They are all moving in that direction, but I don't see anyone who is close enough yet.
This has what has kept the game going for so long. The U.S has been living off of external funding for ages now.

> but I don't see anyone who is close enough yet.

BRICS + Iran and Iraq  possibly France and others in Europe may fall in line
legendary
Activity: 1764
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July 17, 2014, 11:06:26 AM
XHB, housing ETF, not looking so good:

legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:04:11 AM
stocks still sinking, Vix ramping.
legendary
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July 17, 2014, 11:01:47 AM
Third world continue filling up their coffers with dollars:

"Reserves Break $3 Trillion Mark in Emerging Markets"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-17/reserves-break-3-trillion-mark-in-emerging-markets.html
I wouldn't call SK 3rd world..

But it's the cost of doing business in the current $USD centered world. Wait until they have other options...chickens($) come home to roost.

it's always amazed me that foreigners would plow so much back into UST's for such an indebted nation as the US.  i understand it at one level since we are the world's largest economy with the largest consumer base and military, but come on.  when does it all end?  i guess it makes sense to debt enslave America.  altho, i'm sure we'll default.  how they don't get this is beyond me. 

imo, the end game is if and when the UST market cracks.  that's the big kahuna for the US. 

If they let interest rates rise, then the Fed will have a harder time propping up everything else.  Until they withdrawal from stocks they have to support bonds so the Fed can act as a force multiplier.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 17, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
Third world continue filling up their coffers with dollars:

"Reserves Break $3 Trillion Mark in Emerging Markets"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-17/reserves-break-3-trillion-mark-in-emerging-markets.html
I wouldn't call SK 3rd world..

But it's the cost of doing business in the current $USD centered world. Wait until they have other options...chickens($) come home to roost.

Exactly, we still have to wait because nobody wants to bankrupt half their export business.  Demand needs better global distribution before the transition can be made.  Yes there are great costs to continuing to do business this way, but the costs are less than the costs of a transition at the moment.  Of course, once one big player makes the move the cost of continuing the game will go up for everyone else and the dominoes will start to fall.  They are all moving in that direction, but I don't see anyone who is close enough yet.
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