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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1193. (Read 2032266 times)

legendary
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January 04, 2014, 01:30:26 PM
legendary
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January 04, 2014, 01:18:50 PM

Funnily enough, James Turk has been suggested as ANOTHER (always capitalised by convention Wink) though I'd always assumed him to be older and middle-eastern. Some sunglass-wearing OPEC advisor perhaps, disillusioned by the 70s, coughing up a final confession.


I imagined ANOTHER as some similarly aged/experienced and disillusioned old money scion.  I actually prefer your vision as I think about it and remember back to the time when I did a lightning parse through his and FOA's work.  Or a complete fraud.

I never would have expected Turk.  I've always considered him something of a clod intellectually.  Or more accurately, with respect to his ability to think in an orthogonal manner and separate himself from his own interests.

donator
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January 04, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
Trace is high on bitcoin Wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dNawEe8M1Y

good interview with visionvictory
newbie
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January 04, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
Above $900 on MtGox.

Time for the long-term bulls parade, again.
donator
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January 04, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
James Turk got some Wink

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LStqjpnM-5c&t=19m39s

and clearly differentiates between tangible and corporeal

WOW!

fuck me! This took some time, but if Turk is coming around and admitting to owning bitcoin, I cannot help but get this exciting feeling that Bitcoin is going to overdeliver on most of the wildest expectation in terms of adoption and price - yet again - this year.

Let's hope we can extend a bit on some of the core features, like possible anonymity, and make these easier to use (or "default"), too, and also find good solutions for technical issues like scalability.
member
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January 04, 2014, 10:39:31 AM
ah, the original kitco vortex, i remember it well ... did anybody figure out who "another" was?

.... was wild for it's day, now a lot of that knowledge is common place Wink

Indeed, his eye-opening suggestions for the whole gold / oil / dollar / world events was pretty wild, and fodder for a whole set of previously isolated non-conformists. It's easy to forget how much voice and community the internet has shared out.

After kitco came up in this thread recently, I had a quick look and found this partial archive:

http://bgmi.us/web/kitco/Kitco1990s.php

I had a short wander through it, but it was like picking over a misty battlefield during the following dawn. Too many cackling ghosts. I stopped when I was surprised by one of my own (insignificant and peripheral) posts.


James Turk got some Wink

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LStqjpnM-5c&t=19m39s

and clearly differentiates between tangible and corporeal

Funnily enough, James Turk has been suggested as ANOTHER (always capitalised by convention Wink) though I'd always assumed him to be older and middle-eastern. Some sunglass-wearing OPEC advisor perhaps, disillusioned by the 70s, coughing up a final confession.


.... was wild for it's day, now a lot of that knowledge is common place Wink

Yes that forum opened my eyes a fair bit and doubt i would be involved in btc today if not for it.

I was just going to add +me, but then it struck me that possibly none of us would be here, for surely btc itself is rooted in the collision between gold and the internet? Would it have existed without the coming together (at kitco, but also the e-gold and beenz experiments) of old, experienced men of the world like ANOTHER prepared to share their worldview and bright young anarcho tech heads prepared to do something about it?

You could think, in fact, that Satoshi was influenced by ANOTHER: careful anonymity (even with probably cultural misdirection), planting influential ideas, then disappearing. Perhaps both graduates of the same spook school?

hero member
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January 04, 2014, 08:26:01 AM
James Turk got some Wink

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LStqjpnM-5c&t=19m39s

and clearly differentiates between tangible and corporeal
hero member
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..yeah
January 03, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
jizzed in my pants.

thanks everybody  Cheesy
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
January 03, 2014, 04:51:32 PM
ah, the original kitco vortex, i remember it well ... did anybody figure out who "another" was?

.... was wild for it's day, now a lot of that knowledge is common place Wink
donator
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January 03, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
It hasn't made it to their language-neutral API toolset yet.
http://www.kitconet.com/exchangerates.html

For them this is beta testing.  They are looking for comments, maybe assistance.  
http://www.kitco.com/finance/bitcoin/

It looks like they added Kraken exchange today.

They're using volume-weighted average over a couple of exchanges (the big USD-based ones it seems).

It's the right way to go, but maybe including "foreign" currency based exchanges like the ones in China, Europe, etc. would make sense. But maybe not. It is what it is, I guess. I like that they are very transparent about it.


EDIT: just saw the other currencies / exchanges.
legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
January 03, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
It hasn't made it to their language-neutral API toolset yet.
http://www.kitconet.com/exchangerates.html

For them this is beta testing.  They are looking for comments, maybe assistance. 
http://www.kitco.com/finance/bitcoin/

It looks like they added Kraken exchange today.
legendary
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January 03, 2014, 03:01:29 PM

I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?

i think it might be a canadian site, but its a gold selling site that hold one of the best and largest gold forums. also most of the charts people use to quote gold on the internet come from kitco. pretty sure it would be in the top 1000 sites.

the old kitco forum was legendary.

Edit: Kitco is the 940th most visited site in the USA.

I never got into Kitco's forum.  (Believe it or not, I've never really participated in anything but bitcointalk.org since the usenet days.)  But Kitco has been the go-to for PM spot prices for a long time.  If 940-th counts the number of spot price widgets that people use on their own site, I have no trouble believing it.  Else I would find it surprising.

Bitcoin being treated as a near-peer to PM's and other financial data at Kitco is indeed huge.

legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
January 03, 2014, 02:44:46 PM

I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?

i think it might be a canadian site, but its a gold selling site that hold one of the best and largest gold forums. also most of the charts people use to quote gold on the internet come from kitco. pretty sure it would be in the top 1000 sites.


the old kitco forum was legendary.

Edit: Kitco is the 940th most visited site in the USA.

Interesting that there wasn't much comment about it.  It just appeared with a little "New" marker on their site.
Bitcoin is becoming normal.

My metric for mainstream acceptance of Bitcoin was seeing it on one of the mainstream media ticker scrolls, like Bloomberg, along side their gold and silver price that they flash about once every two minutes.

This is a big step closer to that.
legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
January 03, 2014, 02:38:14 PM

I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?

You have a second set of underwear?

For most online gold dealers, Kitco is their pricing source.  Based in Montreal Canada, major presence in New York and Hong Kong.
Kitco provide the easiest free pricing API that most precious metal dealers use and integrate worldwide.
That Kitco are now doing the same for Bitcoin is a game changer.  They are a very respected pricing source.  Their pricing may become more authoritative than say Coindesk's pricing, or of any particular exchange, as they use a weighted average.  

Kitco's methods are rigorous, they have been doing this for many decades.  They are a leader in the precious metal's businesses and started with refining in the 70's, when gold first became legal again in US (if they were doing it before they they aren't saying).   They were online by 1995.  It makes sense that they are on the early part of the curve.  Most any English speaker who is serious about gold knows Kitco.
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..yeah
January 03, 2014, 01:50:43 PM

I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?
hero member
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January 03, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Another strong sign that the big money actually is moving in bitcoin, 2014 is going to be very very intresting.
legendary
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January 03, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
Intermediate to advanced Excel skills. Fuck yeah!
legendary
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January 03, 2014, 12:13:59 PM
Love seeing bitcoin on Kitco.

Now let's reinforce the wisdom of that... I just emailed Kitco thanking them for including bitcoin (pointing out I've been a Kitco user for years), and that I hope to see more bitcoin integration into their site in the coming months.
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legendary
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January 03, 2014, 08:35:09 AM

This type of awareness and acceptance of Bitcoin by the PM community is another form of Gold parity....

Wow

you've got to be fucking kidding me! They got it:



Metals, Futures, Mining, Stocks, Forex, Bitcoin

well done, kitko!

They could've just slapped it under "forex", but it seems they understand Bitcoin: it's more of an asset class than anything else. It kind of fits under some of the other categories or none of them at all and Kitko recognized that correctly. Thanks!

Although, to be honest, they should've probably named the category "crypto" and list some altcoins in tabs like on the metals page.

Wow, Bitcoin really has come a long way.

Yes, they got it. Although crypto or cryptocurrency might be a less confusing name for the asset class (Bitcoin's already used for both the network and the currency/asset).
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