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March 22, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
You will probably have to change the thread title.

Gold collapsing. Bitcoin collapsing.
legendary
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March 22, 2012, 09:54:24 AM
legendary
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March 22, 2012, 09:50:04 AM
oh my.
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March 22, 2012, 06:09:05 AM
Really need a 2nd down day for a solid confirm imo.  That was a pretty anemic confirm Wink

I think we are going to get one...

Im going to have to eat my words today I think
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 10:35:22 PM
ok, it was the Chinese PMI:

Chinese PMI as tracked by HSBC/Market (not to be confused with the other PMI, tracked by China itself, which will likely show expansion, like last month), came and printed at 48.1, down from 49.6, and representing a 5th consecutive monthly contraction for the Chinese economy.

normally the mkt wouldn't react to negative news like this.  however, if we've topped, as i think we might have, all rips on negative or positive news should be met with selling/shorting.
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March 21, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
did u guys see that?

just the last few minutes the Dow, oil, gold, and silver futures took a dump straight down.  of course the $DXY went straight up.  something must've happened in Europe.  anyone hear anything?  i don't know.

tomorrow will be REAL interesting.
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March 21, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
Really need a 2nd down day for a solid confirm imo.  That was a pretty anemic confirm Wink
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 04:15:10 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/dumb-money-refuses-be-dumb-money-yet-another-week

this is why i don't fear a stock mkt crash.  the only ones left to lose everything are the "smart money" who are all in long.

in fact, i would welcome a crash to clean these boys out once and for all.
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March 21, 2012, 03:17:37 PM
Apple indeed confirmed the bearish hanging man from yesterday in the end. Once many people want to exit Apple and stock market longs, the door is narrow, and many won't get out before we are down a LOT.
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 03:02:26 PM
as subtle a down day as today was in stocks, this was extremely bearish IMO.

to be sold off like that in the last 10 min is a typical move by the professionals who usually don't trade until the last 2h.

pm's are at severe risk right here as they are just following stocks.  if AAPL bites the bullet like is imminent, you'll get a severe downdraft in the metals.

edit:  my triple lever bear etf's are soaring in AH's right now.  look out.
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 02:51:18 PM
Apple's making a break for the door.
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March 21, 2012, 01:55:35 PM
$TRIN spike.
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 12:29:27 PM
tsk, tsk.

boots and cats and boots and cats and boom boom tsk boom boom tsk
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
tsk, tsk.
legendary
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March 21, 2012, 11:43:14 AM
A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


google translate is awesome

So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Maybe tomorrow, or next week, or maybe April...

Oh my
legendary
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March 20, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
its important to view pm's in the context of the economy as a whole.  which is why you see me constantly talking about other markets besides pm's in my blog and in my posts here.  pm's are affected by these other market movements.  Bitcoin is even one of those markets that i believe has significance.

Agreed.

if we do, what do you think will happen to pm's and their stocks?  they will plunge below $500 i believe.  go back and review what happened to pm miners in 2008.  carnage.  the gold price dropped but it wasn't catastrophic.  this time i think it will be worse b/c we're at the end of a 12 yr bull mkt.  this wil be THE BIG ONE.

This isn't exactly 2008 - both comprehension and sentiment have transitioned from belief in the integrity of American finance to growing awareness of its fallibility. It's taken longer than I thought it would (damn lack of transparency making me underestimate liquidity magnitudes), but it's still happening at an accelerating rate.

Paper gold prices may plummet eventually, but physical gold cannot. Until that separation (which is a strong possibility, but not guaranteed) where the illusion truly has no bearing on reality, the undercurrents (real asset deflation, monetary inflation) continue to grind average investors up.



inflationists and pm bulls will say that the Fed will just print and won't let markets go down.  i ask; why did they let us have 2 devastating stock crashes in the last 12 yr and a housing implosion?

I can't claim to know their minds, but that isn't necessary. Just from observing behaviour, it's easy enough to see the reactionary nature that panicked when each of those events occurred. Martin Armstrong has suggested that the world's leaders are like scared children, unsure of what to do whenever these crises erupts, so they typically choose the most perceptually-expedient yet detrimental course of action (i.e. make it look like you're doing something).

Behaviour is a very difficult thing to change. So from that point of view, they didn't "let" those things happen any more than a person "let" himself get cancer. In this instance, the Fed has been playing with carcinogenic financial instruments and policies while telling everyone there's no danger, then feigning shock when symptoms developed.

why not? that might turn out to be the deal of your life.

Indeed Smiley
legendary
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March 20, 2012, 04:40:41 PM
A hanging man isn't a guarantee of anything so yes, you need to look at tomorrow.
legendary
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March 20, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


google translate is awesome

So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Today I learned...  I hadnt been looking for hammers as reversals but as continuations in an uptrend... turns out its the opposite...

Thanks

In the same APPL chart above, there is a small hanging man on March 1, 2012 which led to a -5% decline over the following 3 days. The next turn in APPL will likely be bigger...
legendary
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March 20, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


google translate is awesome

So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.


Today I learned...  I hadnt been looking for hammers as reversals but as continuations in an uptrend... turns out its the opposite...

Thanks
legendary
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Merit: 1000
March 20, 2012, 04:16:53 PM
A hammer in an uptrend is called hanging man and is bearish, signalling often an impending downturn.

A hammer in a downtrend often signals an impending upturn.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/boersenwissen/die-kerzen-5-und-6/


google translate is awesome

So this candlestick pattern is used to indicate reversals, not continuation of trend?

Typically, yes. Of course there are always some exceptions possible, but probability is high for a turn.
This turn has to be confirmed by a down day or at least a dark candle tomorrow.
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