Topic: Good News: Avalon ASIC Samples shipped, (sorry for the panic over the weekend) (Read 4494 times)
June 10, 2013, 07:14:04 AM
After issue has been resolved, closing here to let the thread die.
June 10, 2013, 06:57:41 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
Great the Sifu has spoken, every 10,000 chip will get 30 sample chip .. probably maybe wait another week, that all
Or two weeks?
June 10, 2013, 06:12:34 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
That's great news. Next can you fix zephir's missing order of 10k chips?
June 10, 2013, 05:24:43 AM
Thanks Yifu
June 10, 2013, 04:16:07 AM
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Plus, without sample chips from each batch to test, who's to say that 1 batch is fine but the rest of the batches are absolute crap with tons of failed chips? I haven't seen anything indicating that Avalon is providing any type of guarantee at all about chips working.
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On their page (http://store.avalon-asics.com/?product=avalon-asic-chips-10000):Plus, without sample chips from each batch to test, who's to say that 1 batch is fine but the rest of the batches are absolute crap with tons of failed chips? I haven't seen anything indicating that Avalon is providing any type of guarantee at all about chips working.
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2. the chips being sold are packaged and tested.
June 10, 2013, 03:55:57 AM
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...Zefir ... please change the subject in order to prevent potential heart attacks ... seems to be all fine now
one4many
June 10, 2013, 03:52:43 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
+1 Whew... thanks for the update.
June 10, 2013, 03:38:39 AM
See, just miscommunication!
And we all got upset. On sunday!
And we all got upset. On sunday!
June 10, 2013, 03:35:24 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
Great the Sifu has spoken, every 10,000 chip will get 30 sample chip .. probably maybe wait another week, that all
June 10, 2013, 03:33:05 AM
I was under impression that there are only two distinct designs developing right now, BkkCoins and burnin, and that all other developers are basically cloning their designs. Is this not true? Shouldn't it then be priority to get sample chips to these two? What is the point sending the same amount of sample chips to BkkCoins and some other guy who is waiting for BkkCoins to finish his testing and order the PCB following that design?
I have to agreed on this ...this 2 individuals should be the primary guys with more sample chips
+1 on this. I think the chip delivery should be prioritized so that both of these guys get the bulk of the chips first
Developers of original new designs should get the sample chips first, then assemblers.
June 10, 2013, 03:31:06 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
Awesome! Now when will the remaining amount of chips be shipped? I'm still getting the same old message in the account page...
June 10, 2013, 03:29:31 AM
Let's just hope they wont ship the chip orders before "Batch#3 delivered + 3 months".
June 10, 2013, 03:26:58 AM
seems to be some miscommunication here.
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
the people handling this just took all the people who ordered, and sent them 30 chips a person since they finally arrived, I've spoken to them and this issue is addressed, so all should be fine.
of course, the 30 chip per 10,000 rule still holds, it's just they'll show up later.
I mean it's kinda silly to do per address since people would just get more addresses or split their orders into single 10,000 orders...
June 10, 2013, 03:24:49 AM
Lesson learned... order with a different name each batch you buy.
June 10, 2013, 03:12:48 AM
In order to help out other community driven projects and given that only 30 ASICs samples will be shipped to zefir, we are opting out from the projects list since we will be getting our own batch of 30 samples.
June 10, 2013, 02:04:42 AM
I was under impression that there are only two distinct designs developing right now, BkkCoins and burnin, and that all other developers are basically cloning their designs. Is this not true? Shouldn't it then be priority to get sample chips to these two? What is the point sending the same amount of sample chips to BkkCoins and some other guy who is waiting for BkkCoins to finish his testing and order the PCB following that design?
I have to agreed on this ...this 2 individuals should be the primary guys with more sample chips
+1 on this. I think the chip delivery should be prioritized so that both of these guys get the bulk of the chips first
June 10, 2013, 01:08:55 AM
I think the thing about this that strikes me the most is...
Presuming that they're ordering each order of 10k from TSMC as they come in, aren't sample chips customarily provided by the foundries for customer validation per order?
What is Avalon doing with those sample chips if they're only delivering 1 batch of samples per shipping address, even if that shipping address has put in 5+ separate orders?
Plus, without sample chips from each batch to test, who's to say that 1 batch is fine but the rest of the batches are absolute crap with tons of failed chips? I haven't seen anything indicating that Avalon is providing any type of guarantee at all about chips working. Is there any recourse if a batch of 10k chips has a huge failure rate, like say 25% or higher?
Granted, 30 chips isn't exactly a large sample size to test, but if they provided those per batch, and the devs saw them all being duds, we'd at least have an indication that there might be a problem with the batch and be able to try to communicate with Avalon before the whole order was delivered, in order to see if anything could be done to resolve the situation
Then again, we don't know if the sample chips being provided are coming from Avalon themselves, or if they're part of the order from the foundry that the foundry is releasing to Avalon to validate and they're sending on to us.
Presuming that they're ordering each order of 10k from TSMC as they come in, aren't sample chips customarily provided by the foundries for customer validation per order?
What is Avalon doing with those sample chips if they're only delivering 1 batch of samples per shipping address, even if that shipping address has put in 5+ separate orders?
Plus, without sample chips from each batch to test, who's to say that 1 batch is fine but the rest of the batches are absolute crap with tons of failed chips? I haven't seen anything indicating that Avalon is providing any type of guarantee at all about chips working. Is there any recourse if a batch of 10k chips has a huge failure rate, like say 25% or higher?
Granted, 30 chips isn't exactly a large sample size to test, but if they provided those per batch, and the devs saw them all being duds, we'd at least have an indication that there might be a problem with the batch and be able to try to communicate with Avalon before the whole order was delivered, in order to see if anything could be done to resolve the situation
Then again, we don't know if the sample chips being provided are coming from Avalon themselves, or if they're part of the order from the foundry that the foundry is releasing to Avalon to validate and they're sending on to us.
June 09, 2013, 10:24:21 PM
Indeed very dissapointing...
Same S**T as usual...
Same S**T as usual...
June 09, 2013, 10:21:49 PM
Cmon guys please reward BKK and burnin for there hard work - most of the other clones are scammers who haven't spent any time contributing as much as these 2 guys
June 09, 2013, 10:19:58 PM
I was under impression that there are only two distinct designs developing right now, BkkCoins and burnin, and that all other developers are basically cloning their designs. Is this not true? Shouldn't it then be priority to get sample chips to these two? What is the point sending the same amount of sample chips to BkkCoins and some other guy who is waiting for BkkCoins to finish his testing and order the PCB following that design?
I have to agreed on this ...this 2 individuals should be the primary guys with more sample chips
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