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Quote from: beerlover on November 06, 2024, 03:36:06 PM

Yeah, everyone has a different style and every nation has a different breed of culture. I mean for USA, the "best" nation to live in, so much so that they have immigration as a political issue, they still do not have healthcare. While there could be great other things, we are seeing healthcare suck, and some people may not prefer to go there just because of this.

Or for example France, immigration issue, people who are not accustomed to culture there, creating issues. Every nation has their own problems, their own culture, their own ways of doing things. None of us are "doomed" like OP mentions, we are doing fine, sure it's not a great life, but compared to 100 years ago or more, we are doing better, and we should be happy.

That's a good way to summarize it, we surely living a better life in compared to 100 years ago, like we have Auto Vehicles, smartphones, AI, blockchain, digitalization, and many other things, but you know what? I have seen some people (like most of them are old) say this era is the worst thing era they have seen, they say the young generation is using phones and causing themselves many health problems, while actually it's a good point and it's common in almost every country.

We had many things back that caused the young generation health problems, and in today's words, we still have those things and more new things. it's just a cycle, and in this cycle to live a good life (not worse at least), we have to discipline ourselves and learn new things instead of wasting time. Solve real problems and should be creative not just mis-using and promoting things that are really irrelevant.

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Quote from: MRY on November 04, 2024, 06:28:49 PM

Indeed, each country has different approaches when it comes to catering for its citizens and recording to most governments they do their all to ensure that there is enough facilities. In the developed nations, the mouth-piece of public services and subsidies among the populace as a way to support their well-beings.

Yet, in life’s adversity, there is need for all of us to build up our strengths further, and not to be over-dependant on supports. Therefore by noting experience and practicing and focusing on ourselves, it is possible to make a move forward. Getting a glimpse of the politics means understanding the world behind each policy that is implemented. With this knowledge we will be more prepared and ready to face whatever life has to prepare for us no matter the circumstances.

Your have a good point about personal strengthening and decreased dependence, but perhaps it is worth considering that public services today do not stop at support, they create resilience and efficiency. For example, contemporary electronic public services in countries like Australia also organize services around life events, such as the birth of a child or changes in employment, in order to make life easier for people and decrease the bureaucratic burden. In this respect, people can devote their time to personal growth and not spend it seeking ways to overcome the system.

Other efforts, such as the United Nations' open-sourced frameworks, are also redesigning public services to be more open, accessible, and inclusive on a global scale. They connect local communities to resource opportunities, thereby empowering them and fostering collaboration across sectors. This stands in testament to the fact that public support, when sufficiently provided, can actually build people's independence rather than over dependency.

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Quote from: Squaremile777 on November 01, 2024, 09:35:37 AM

Yes good times are over and goverments need tighten their budget.
It seems like world moving towards new feodalism where in many countries goverment don't have money to support anything.
So it will create wealth gap and If world start to divided: rich or poor no middle-class then If you have 100,000$ your bank account then you fall into poor category likely.
World moving in situation when poor cant enjoy many things including quality medical service or even security since goverments need to tighten their budget.
World will turn more like los Angeles kind of place where there is Beverly Hills and other areas where there is enough police rescue and medical service for richer areas.
Off course that alone will create unrests of society because many people feel that's not fair as middleclass will likely fall into poor class.
Europe have off course problem they commodities food and better resources cheaper way and more effient yes there is a lot money in europe Banks like UBS but money alone is nothing just causing the inflation If there is no sustaineble sectors involved.
If we continue this way then yes we will have rich and poor no more middleclass.

Government in most countries are idealistically moving towards a new feudal system no doubt, some with pretence of democracy and a supposed rule of law, when in reality those of them in government are seriously ripping the people off their entitlements. I think what has emboldened this suppose feudal system and has created so much gap between the rich and the poor is the docility on the side of those been governed, because I feel people have refused to come out to question budgetary allocations and the implementation of those projects on things that affects them primarily like electricity, medical services, infrastructure, food security, job creation and the rest of it. So for me, citizens need to push for more responsibility on the side on government, because they are the ones that collect tax and revenue to provide all of this basic things, citizens most learn to hold the government by the jugular if not complains of this nature will not seize to end.

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When you find yourself in a place that is not suitable a country that is having of facing an inflation or economically, please I will encourage that we should not feel reluctant or depend on government alone because it is obvious that government can fail you, so I believe that with alone we need to spread our source of income so that country inflation will not affect us, so I believe that need to create means of surviving in exception of government, what I know very well is once you're independent government economical inflation will not affect you.

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Indeed, we are currently in crisis but I think this time is transitional and proving (not the end of everything) because indeed this can be the end but on the other hand this can also be a new beginning to make the economic level better.

This kind of chaotic situation has always happened since a few years ago where geopolitical conflicts and even wars made the economy not run as it should. In addition, several other things such as inflation also make economic conditions more complicated but we must survive because everything will definitely have a way out and what must be done is to face chaotic situations like this and try to open a new transition so that the future economy becomes better.

It may sound like nonsense but in the end when we just give up with this condition then we will just suffer even more so for now, inevitably we have to survive more in difficult situations so that we avoid the dangers that threaten. Although we can't do much for the country's and global economy but we also certainly have to save the economy of ourselves and our families so that we don't get carried away and give up with this situation.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on November 06, 2024, 09:00:30 AM

we must prepare ourselves for any circumstance, but I would like to add there are people who have seen the facilities and used them in other countries and when they come back to their own country they miss them and they blame the governments and the people to not demand these facilities (the thing is most of the people are in the dark, they don't know about such facilities).

Governments should provide a proper plan of their efforts to provide us with facilities, Like in my country government is putting some extra layer of security over the internet making the speed more slower and other countries are going to adopt 6g and we won't get to use 5G even. Our government put taxes on imported phones, we can't use sims in them until we pay hefty fines. There are 50 other bad steps I can count but don't know why they are not improving them instead they are playing politics haha, I just wonder why they don't take Pakistan as their homeland and do something good for it. They do good to show on social media that they did good (that's bad) they show off.

Yeah, everyone has a different style and every nation has a different breed of culture. I mean for USA, the "best" nation to live in, so much so that they have immigration as a political issue, they still do not have healthcare. While there could be great other things, we are seeing healthcare suck, and some people may not prefer to go there just because of this.

Or for example France, immigration issue, people who are not accustomed to culture there, creating issues. Every nation has their own problems, their own culture, their own ways of doing things. None of us are "doomed" like OP mentions, we are doing fine, sure it's not a great life, but compared to 100 years ago or more, we are doing better, and we should be happy.

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Quote from: MRY on November 04, 2024, 06:28:49 PM

Indeed, each country has different approaches when it comes to catering for its citizens and recording to most governments they do their all to ensure that there is enough facilities. In the developed nations, the mouth-piece of public services and subsidies among the populace as a way to support their well-beings.

Yet, in life’s adversity, there is need for all of us to build up our strengths further, and not to be over-dependant on supports. Therefore by noting experience and practicing and focusing on ourselves, it is possible to make a move forward. Getting a glimpse of the politics means understanding the world behind each policy that is implemented. With this knowledge we will be more prepared and ready to face whatever life has to prepare for us no matter the circumstances.

You are right we must prepare ourselves for any circumstance, but I would like to add there are people who have seen the facilities and used them in other countries and when they come back to their own country they miss them and they blame the governments and the people to not demand these facilities (the thing is most of the people are in the dark, they don't know about such facilities).

Governments should provide a proper plan of their efforts to provide us with facilities, Like in my country government is putting some extra layer of security over the internet making the speed more slower and other countries are going to adopt 6g and we won't get to use 5G even. Our government put taxes on imported phones, we can't use sims in them until we pay hefty fines. There are 50 other bad steps I can count but don't know why they are not improving them instead they are playing politics haha, I just wonder why they don't take Pakistan as their homeland and do something good for it. They do good to show on social media that they did good (that's bad) they show off.

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Quote from: Jewan420 on November 03, 2024, 01:35:06 AM

Good time and money are not things that end. You will make good times and the government will make money. We are poor even though we have enough money. What is the reason for this? As a reason for this we can say that we do not have enough money according to Yuga. Imagine, what you could buy for $100 in 2001, you can't buy for $200 now. That is, $200 lost to the old $100. $100 in 2001 was enough money for us, but even though we have twice as much money today, we cannot call this money enough. The reason for this is inflation. Inflation causes the price of the same product to rise over time.

As the price of the commodity rises, our income is supposed to increase, but due to the mismatch between market price and income, a commodity becomes out of reach for the poor. The reason for this is defaulted loans. Due to these defaulted loans, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

If we take it literally, yes they end. I mean what if we perish in this world? But if not yet, they might end but only for temporary for a while. In life, it is only normal to have downs other than ups. It is like they are only working in a cycle. It is also about our mindset. IDK but there might be those who can only/always think positively, so they never ran out of good times. It is only a plus if they also didn't worship money that much, if in case they aren't wealthy. In general, money is important because we can use it in stuffs, so we also make money not only the governments.

There might still be items that hardly increase in value, so we still can avail them even with less money on hand. I'm aware about the inflation eating up the value of our money but the way you define it there seems too much already. Nothing is enough for those who are not contented. Their attitude is not related to inflation anymore. If we want an increase in our income, we need to start acting. Not all commodities are expensive, so even a poor can still avail them. It only boils down to budgeting and willingness. When it comes to loans, I think a defaulted loan is when the borrower fail to make a payment, so this can actually make the lender/rich poor.

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Quote from: Faisal2202 on November 04, 2024, 01:13:31 PM

You can't call every government doing it as some countries have good governments and they do care for the welfare of their citizens and provide a lot of free facilities, they are providing free facilities as much as they can and speaking of progressing countries they are also providing facilities and making steps for the welfare of their citizens as much as they can.

They can't just provide a lot of subsidies and help to the middle or poor class if any other country is providing. There is a saying my mother used to say "Don’t find faults in your life just by comparing it to others" But we must compare to improve ours (I just improvise here haha.

I mean in struggling times we must not depend on our country or government because they are politics and we all know what politics is for, if you one day will read the books that these politicians (if educated) read then you will know how clever you have to be and lie is a thing you can't avoid.

Indeed, each country has different approaches when it comes to catering for its citizens and recording to most governments they do their all to ensure that there is enough facilities. In the developed nations, the mouth-piece of public services and subsidies among the populace as a way to support their well-beings.

Yet, in life’s adversity, there is need for all of us to build up our strengths further, and not to be over-dependant on supports. Therefore by noting experience and practicing and focusing on ourselves, it is possible to make a move forward. Getting a glimpse of the politics means understanding the world behind each policy that is implemented. With this knowledge we will be more prepared and ready to face whatever life has to prepare for us no matter the circumstances.

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Quote from: AVE5 on November 01, 2024, 10:13:00 AM

Indeed inflations of today's are very much effective on the average and lesser earners. The multiplication of the cost of expenditures has made the less rich privilege people to afford comfortable.
Yes I said comfortable and not quality life because to some points the poors are chasing live on prior of just to afford foods, shelter and medics to live healthy but yet are struggling to get them.
Meanwhile they've been submitted so vulnerable to risk measures where the government doesn't regard their welfare but are more concerned of the riches welfare.
It has gotten to the point where the government threats the masses based on the rate of their taxes and if you don't remit to the government then you live commonly like you don't exist.

You can't call every government doing it as some countries have good governments and they do care for the welfare of their citizens and provide a lot of free facilities, they are providing free facilities as much as they can and speaking of progressing countries they are also providing facilities and making steps for the welfare of their citizens as much as they can.

They can't just provide a lot of subsidies and help to the middle or poor class if any other country is providing. There is a saying my mother used to say "Don’t find faults in your life just by comparing it to others" But we must compare to improve ours (I just improvise here haha.

I mean in struggling times we must not depend on our country or government because they are politics and we all know what politics is for, if you one day will read the books that these politicians (if educated) read then you will know how clever you have to be and lie is a thing you can't avoid.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 01, 2024, 09:48:24 AM

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Thanks bro, you made me happy during these times, hehehe... But let's get back to the topic, I can't believe that when your savings in the bank are only around 100k$, you can also be counted among the poor people.

Such an amount in our country, can be counted among the middle class type of people, not in the poor situation. Because you can buy a nice house and land, a brand new car, and a business as long as you are good at managing and handling your money with that amount.

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I think that good times never end. There are always good times, even in times of bad crises.
Transforming from bad to good is about your individual efforts. There have always been opportunities.
Actually, more opportunities arise in times like these, I am talking about times of change.
If you look at countries and media, you will see nothing but bad things, so don't look anymore.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 03, 2024, 06:59:14 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on November 01, 2024, 09:58:20 AM

The good times are not over, we may be in a cost of living crisis but there are always opportunities. You can always better yourself, there is money to be made. Don’t take failure for an answer, strive to achieve.

Yes, I have to agree. Good times are not over. But if you focus on negativity and become affected on it, you will never make positive changes in your life. Know that whatever you think you also attracts, so you need to focus more on positivity so that you will envision your life the kind of life you want to achieve. Although bad times are happening currently but know that they are just good for momentarily, we will still attract positive things and make it happen if you know how to maximize your positive energy and turn it into positive life’s outcomes.

There is always something beautiful in front of us, depending on whether we will step into that place or not, and it depends on our efforts. When we can think positively, then opportunities will always be there. But on the other hand, if we only think negatively, then we will never achieve something we want. Problems will always come to us anytime and anywhere, maybe today we will feel hit by economic problems, but when we are serious about solving the problem, then nothing is impossible. Never give up on something that makes us depressed, it will worsen the atmosphere, we must be able to rise. Complaining is okay, but don't give up.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on November 01, 2024, 09:58:20 AM

The good times are not over, we may be in a cost of living crisis but there are always opportunities. You can always better yourself, there is money to be made. Don’t take failure for an answer, strive to achieve.

Yes, I have to agree. Good times are not over. But if you focus on negativity and become affected on it, you will never make positive changes in your life. Know that whatever you think you also attracts, so you need to focus more on positivity so that you will envision your life the kind of life you want to achieve. Although bad times are happening currently but know that they are just good for momentarily, we will still attract positive things and make it happen if you know how to maximize your positive energy and turn it into positive life’s outcomes.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 03, 2024, 04:37:48 PM

There must always be middle class set of people no matter how difficult the situation turns into, because it's not everybody that will have too much funds. There are people who don't see riches as excess money and properties, but they see riches as being able to provide whatever you want and living happily in good health. The rich will always get richer because they oppress and steal from the poor indirectly with their positions that they are in. The rich also gets broke and turn from rich to middle class.

Being rich sometimes is a subjective matter because it depends on the person how he identifies this category, if it is pure money or other aspects of life that you believe can give the true meaning of this status of life. So for me, this level depends on how you define this term. It doesn't always equate with the amount of money that you have in your pocket.

Quote from: Baofeng on November 03, 2024, 03:13:35 AM

I'm not really sure what he meant that good times are over, when the pandemic came, everyone was afraid because we really don't know what's coming. But still we survived, so are there anything that really makes us vulnerable?

As for the gap between the rich and poor, yeah, but it's only been with us for centuries, and I don't know how it is going to affect us when everyone might have accepted that fact or we really work our way out of it. Meaning, we strived to get out of being poor or at least be in the middle of it.

There are so many realizations that we got after pandemic. So for me, living decently is more than enough to survive on this planet. There's no need of those luxury lifestyle to continue living. Just cater your basic needs and you should be happy and contented. Otherwise, you will be stressed for something not important in life.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 03, 2024, 02:55:12 PM

What makes you think that Good times are actually over and money can't be finished, necessarily we know that the country is having an economy downturns but it doesn't implies that there's a limit to the existence of money. The fact that there's always money problem everywhere across the nations it's a more reason everyone needs to buckle up and make sure to cut the ties of being financially unstable and it starts by making feasible plans, so I can bet you there are actually good times.

Agreed, the hardship will not last forever hence we can't say the good times are over. If you think you're not qualified to have good times again that's fine because that is what you think about your own life but not for others. There are people currently working hard to have a better life and for staying disciplined and consistent, they might make it and have good times while the rest don't because they're not preparing for the future. For me I see life is all about the decision we take, it can either make us to have a good time while others aren't or the opposite because we didn't take investing serious while we had the money. More money are there to be made but we have to identify were the money is and I see it's in cryptocurrency right now hence we don't have to give up too soon but continue to keep fighting to eliminate poverty from our bloodline through investing in cryptocurrency.

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There must always be middle class set of people no matter how difficult the situation turns into, because it's not everybody that will have too much funds. There are people who don't see riches as excess money and properties, but they see riches as being able to provide whatever you want and living happily in good health. The rich will always get richer because they oppress and steal from the poor indirectly with their positions that they are in. The rich also gets broke and turn from rich to middle class.

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Quote from: Squaremile777 on November 01, 2024, 09:35:37 AM

So it will create wealth gap and If world start to divided: rich or poor no middle-class then If you have 100,000$ your bank account then you fall into poor category likely.

We're having a rebranding of what poor is like? There are people that don't even have a thousand in their bank account savings and don't have portfolios in any market so, that's how they're more poor than the others. Even if people think about a utopia type of life and you're trying to create something new for which I have seen organizations done it on their own trying to live without a gap with people's life status, it is not going to be sustainable and there will always be those people that would like to see the division of all of these walks of life. But I doubt that we'll see only rich-poor life status and no middle class. To be honest, there are more middle class people than both of it IMO.

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