Topic: Google suspends Huawei's Android support - page 2. (Read 759 times)

Never comes to my mind this one but it seems that this is a legit issue that world must know,and as Chinese wanted to ruler the world and took over the superpower country in the world
Yeah I guess so,and it’s really good that it was revealed earlier than longer
Here in Asia so far according to the local news people can still continue using google apps ,but not sure until when
And this is what we don’t want to have,being in cryptoour privacy is the most important thing but Huawei seems to take  this from us

I think there could be a wrong set of analogy in here. At the second sentence I think it should be … about US*, applies to google as well or vise versa.

Huawei Founder: 'US actions underestimate our abilities'

Just leaving this here, is this a sign of another OS or another search engine?

Now this would be out of the android phone that I would buy in the future,
What a shame they have a great specs and really great phone but without google I wouldn't enjoy using android phones.
Without google the users would surely be in trouble because if they want to install some applications they have to take the risk on downloading some apk files.

And google is actually an arm of the US government. Whatever you tell about Huawei, applies to google as well.

I don't favor any sides in this war but what I know is the Chinese has no respect for the intellectual rights and that's why they are going to lose.

Very good hardware without any original software inside won't be selling much.
I know the westerners won't be buying any Huawei phones if google play isn't available on them. Nobody will be using wechat, wethat, wethis crap no matter how good the software is.

Will the Chinese buy? They already do. It is because they already have no other choice. (Google is banned in China)

China saw this storm coming years ago. That's why they didn't allow any google services and built their own infrastructure in China.

Now the US wants to do the same. I wouldn't let Huawei to build infrastructure in my country neither if I was Trump. That's a no brainer decision.

As you see, it is a bit more than just selling phones. It is about controlling the information flow.

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Ffs, the same shit is happening even in Turkey, the government raised the taxes on the imported mobile phones that high, it costs $2k to buy an iphone which is $1k in the US. All they want from you to buy the phones of their local brand. (Even though they get the parts from China and the software is modified Android) Doesn't matter, they force you to buy that shit phone...

The smartphones war is clearly being manipulated in favour of Google, as those that have used Huawei phones will attest that they are affordable and way better than google phones. This ban by google shall crush Huawei market outside China, but Huawei has said they were prepared for it so it’ll be interesting to see what new platform they’ll come up with. Does anyone here think that Huawei should buy Blackberry and use it’s Blackberry Secure software on their phones to counter googles move, as using Blackberry Secure will prove to the world that their phones are secured too.

It's a fairly obvious attempt by Washington to try to hang on to their own spying activities. Their technology is out of date, and Apple relies on China anyway. Huawei is going to dominate the world with 5G ( which most of us don't want ), and they will move to open source for a mobile OS. I welcome it, I'm fed up with Google constantly trying to install aps that I don't want. If Huawei brings out a Google amd Microsoft free phone, then I will probably buy it. The only thing I will miss is the journey planner.

I am not so sure but based on the statement that was given by Huaweii , you will only be able to have minimal effect if currently you are a Huaweii phone user as google will  only suspend their services to the later Huaweii phones. I am not so sure on how are they going to do it but one thing is clear to me here it can really affect their sales as most of the android users are actually relying too much on the playstore and other Google services. The effect of this is worldwide therefore if you are living outside China you will surely no longer support future Huaweii phone products because it is actually not just Google who removed their services from this phone, there were also more famous brands from US.

Yes, it's Hongmeng OS

(https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-android-alternative-os-details-2019-5#hongmeng-os-is-likely-the-plan-b-operating-system-huawei-mentioned-previously-2)

You've probably already guessed it. I mean the whole thing, validation that your/my data remains private, which means a system designed from the ground up to provide individuals with private keys, end-to-end encryption with others capable of decoding the comm, no apps capable of stealing data.

I could go on, but I know you get it.

This is the ONLY WAY that a claim can be proved validated, so this is what's required.

Otherwise, a claim or promise cannot and should not be believed.

There may be another way, which would be for a company to back their "Promises" with a money bond of high dollar amount. Then if a user could show they'd abused their trust, they'd have to pay. That would perhaps affect company behavior, but it wouldn't affect governments.

Wtf? Now huawei will only use an open source code of android? It's like you are using windows before but now,  you're stuck with linux. This will definitely affects the market for smartphones. I like huawei, its stability is that good, camera, specs and etc. But having delays on updating the system, and you can't download now latest games on google play since it's updating. Is this the end for huawei?

I didn't know it has gotten this far. Last I heard of this they arrested the CFO. China has recently retaliated though by "arresting" 2 Canadians men they've already held in detention anyway. This woman is lucky she just got house arrest.


Would Huawei be able to rely on domestic sales in China alone though? I know these phones are supposed to usually last shorter than an iPhone but there also other domestic brands in China it have to compete with.

Maybe this would force them to focus on Asia.

What do you mean by 'validated'.

I'm not aware of any vendor who open-sources very much of their hardware of firmware and who supports audits.  Or at least public audits.  Likely audits are sometimes negotiated, and I'm guessing that such negotiations are at the core of this problem.  Far to complex and 'sensitive' to be reported in any mainstream new stories though.  A person will probably end up with a better analysis by not even bothering to read the headlines and just guess.

This topic is one of the hottest topics we have here in our country since Huawei was getting praised and were chosen by our people instead of another smartphone available in the market. It is because HUAWEI was able to give all the options a smart could have at a cheaper price.

I actually tried to research and analyze why did the U.S government ban the company from any deals and business in the country. However, there are some ideas I had in mind why.

In order for a company to be escalated from the Whitehouse, the company should have enough reason to be escalated. Such as being a threat to the economy, safety and security of the users and also and oligarchy movement. Ain't know really understand why. But maybe this is one of the moves the U.S will regret soon.

I am hoping that HUAWEI will be supported by the richest people and institutions from China to pursue their global business. They have the potential and this is their moment, as well.

That is not the issue here. Here it is protection or abuse of one's personal data.

Let me draw a parallel.

You are contracting for a building, a 20 story building. The contractor says, "Don't worry, everything we build is earthquake proof."

There is no such thing as belief. Show the tests done, show the actual work that proves the statement.

Wrong.  We'll have one super power developing technologies, another super power attempting to steal that technology to use for consolidation of power, and we really don't get to chose who has access to our personal information.

The main OS is not really much of a factor.  The various firmware in these devices is what makes them insecure and is the primary attack vector these days.  Memory gets stolen without android, for instance, ever knowing about it.

Of course Huawei does the bidding of the government of China, and that government wants 'full take' on it's citizens.  China's internal population is the biggest security threat to the CCP and defense against this threat get a majority of the defense spending.  U.S. would probably be the same if our empire didn't have so many overseas holdings to maintain.  So, hope that Huawei would engage in a general project which fostered privacy is probably a pipe dream.  If they did there would be a danger that Chinese citizens themselves might get a hold of it!

What Huawei could possibly do would be to put into the public domain some obsolete platform and hope that it is supported by the security community.  They can still outlaw it's use within China, and if it is used externally where the 5-eyes dominate it fucks over their adversaries to a degree.  I don't hold out much hope for this though.

The trend that people are guilty until proven innocent will never catch on fully, but it is amazing to me seeing how many want to give some humans control over others, even in the digital world. That is why we elect people to begin with. They are on public display, so anything they are doing is being seen/heard. If what they are doing is negative, then society can judge them and hold them accountable. Except now everyone has to trust the word of one large corporation over another. Who will intervene to find the truth, and can everyone trust the 3rd party that gets involved?

When someone denies an allegation that is disparaging, it is fair to note the denial when discussing the allegation.

Multiple and separate governments claim that they are an arm of the Chinese Government, and a number of elected officials have echoed this. The Chinese government also has a history of subsidizing Chinese companies and of engaging in cyber espionage, and of stealing IP from western companies. All of this taken together makes me believe that Huawei is in fact part of the Chinese Government.

Actually they do. The Huaweii management knew that this is going to happened therefore they've already have they Plan B and that is to create their own operating system.
https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-has-developed-android-windows-os-replacements-2019-3?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar&utm_term=mobile&referrer=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3AnJOzmCI04rIfeDAUchv_TIsP8_ukmavrML7VvdGfKPJXZ3LFLEW7EII

The question here is that can that certain OS they are trying to make is enough and will the masses outside china is going to accept it? cause I am pretty sure that in this situation Google still have the dominance.

People need to learn that one cannot believe claims made by government agencies and large corporations.

These prey on the gullible.

Claims must be accompanied by proof, or else be disregarded. And for a phone with firmware and an operating system, such a claim can only be validated for one firmware version coupled with a specific operating system version.