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Topic: Gov attack throught BUcoin agenda comming soon (Read 1342 times)

legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1004
February 06, 2017, 10:58:17 AM
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the real funny thing about the OP's rant. is that he tries to pretend he cares about bitcoin with the lets hope common sense keeps the status quo of one open network of digital gold

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Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold.
sidnote: bitcoin is not digital gold. bitcoin is a digital asset, far better than digital gold in many many ways

he also pretends to detest government money. by mentioning government and rothchild divide and conquer agenda.

but here is the thing.
he himself is playing the divide and conquer game by trying to make core the victim who should win dictatorship. by pointing cores failures in the opposite direction.. rather than think/talk/ mention consensus of no kings.

ending his post with his ultimate desire.. to exit bitcoin when he can get $2000 of that government money he pretends to detest per coin.
"They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year."

here is some things that he needs to realise.

1. the drama of the PBOC visit btcc, irs visit circle and coinbase began from the blockstream rumour mill.. barry silbert(DCG) has ownership stakes in:
BTCC, coinbase, blockstream, and.. coindesk

so the rumour mill made a normal regulatory inspection sound like an attack. like barry's companies are being victimised. etc etc.

all of which is meaningless crap. because it does not affect consensus of the network or the code.

but the OP subtly is making it sound like core is the victim and if people stay in the sheep stroking arms of core, the price will rise to $2k this year

please wake up people and care more about consensus and the code


It has already been thought and talked. Bitcoin Unlimited is dogshit and will fail as soon as the dev team has to start taking real decisions in a real scenario. They would not be able to get anything done without copy-pasting 99% of Core's code.

Bitcoin Unlimited will lead to node centralization, period, stop being delusional about this. They will also lead to a fatal bug because they are reckless compared to the conservative and adult approach of Core.

Bitcoin is either digital gold (with a 2nd layer on top for the currency features) or it's BUcoin with a centralized network and guaranteed disaster long term (or even mid).
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
here is the mindblowing thing though.

BTCC say they are ready to make a block with a p2wpkh tx in it.

so why dont they do a test. and make a block with a p2wpkh tx in it. and show how 'compatible' all nodes are..
after all isnt that the point/ their 'promise' of going soft. that nodes of any type/age wont reject blocks containing p2wpkh tx's

very worse case, btcc block gets rejected, which blockstream have $90m to pay btcc, ~$13k for a one block test
or due to the partnership between btcc/blockstream thanks to barry silbert(dcg) they just treat it as a 3 second reject and be like all other pools that dont win. and not need to hand over funds, because its not a loss of ~$13k.. its just not a win of ~$13k

best case. the block is accepted and that gains the network confidence they desperately need
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 523
https://twitter.com/Truthcoin/status/827695619355598852

Looks like The Powers That Be are scared that bitcoin manages to keep climbing back to 1000+ territory.

They tried with XT, then classiccoin, now that they realized their PBOC FUD is not working, its BUcoin time.

Luckily, the only thing they are going to accomplish is waste a lot of money, and in the small chance the disaster happens, it's time to dump since both sides will crash as we saw with the ETH/ETC debacle. Core will eventually emerge as the winner since they are objectively the best coders, but no side will win on overall bitcoin crashing and getting a shitfest on mainstream media, with an overall winner: governments and rothchild's gold (as intended, through the good old "divide and conquer" method which they have been using for ages every time something threatened the status quo)

Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. BUcoin will soon join the list of failed powergrab attempts with false promises. They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year.

They can't do it due to bitcoin nature as decentralized digital currency, anyway bitcoin doesn't harm them.
It's not a good move to create another coin which will fail in the market, why? Because it need people trust and higher value than bitcoin that impossible to achieve. They need more than they got, because they need to defeat people all around the world who have invested in bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 3024
Merit: 1640
lose: unfind ... loose: untight
You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?

Yes, I understand your anxiety. I can scarcely contain my anticipation as well. But we are doing. Quietly amassing commitment from hash power.

All is going according to plan.

Excellent.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1530
www.ixcoin.net
We must adhere to consensus and decentralization and not succumb to small group of greedy BU miners  Cool

^^^  This guy gets it. 
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
We must adhere to consensus and decentralization and not succumb to small group of greedy BU miners  Cool
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
You dipshits will never get community consensus, only hashrate majority.  

the smart community dont care about hashrate majority. unless nodes will accept the change, hash is a meaningless bucket filled with orphans and rejects.

nodes mean more than hash. the community know this. thats why the smart pools (60% undecided either way) are not deciding.
core failed by bypassing node consensus before hash consensus.
they shot themselves in the foot thinking they could skip a step
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1530
www.ixcoin.net
oh look at the blockstream centralists wanting non-core implementations to fork off..
they cant cope that the community want consensus and not dictators.

blockstream centralists are now so desperate that they are no longer(playing a victim card) shouting out fear of forks.. but instead (dropped their victim card) to now be begging other implementations to fork.. but atleast they are now admitting their centralist desires

desperate desperate desperate

lets just concentrate on using the consensus code. and let the corporations fall into issues of not repaying their $90m by not being able to commercialise bitcoin to repay investors.

You dipshits will never get community consensus, only hashrate majority. 
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
oh look at the blockstream centralists wanting non-core implementations to fork off..
they cant cope that the community want consensus and not dictators.

blockstream centralists are now so desperate that they are no longer(playing a victim card) shouting out fear of forks.. but instead (dropped their victim card) to now be begging other implementations to fork.. but atleast they are now admitting their centralist desires

desperate desperate desperate

lets just concentrate on using the consensus code. and let the corporations fall into issues of not repaying their $90m by not being able to commercialise bitcoin to repay investors.

i could tell blockstream was getting thin on funds last year when they were complaining it cost them $10k just to be members of hyper ledger.
after all if they still had multiple millions free and clear. $10k would feel like pennies.. but if they are near empty. $10k would hurt them, which they admit it had.
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3071

lol where's the BU hardfork then?

Hurry up and fork, this is like one of those japanese cartoons where the characters take the whole half-hour to talk about the massive fight they're about to have.

You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?

I'm not a big blocker but I can read.  BU now has more miner support than Segwit.  Don't know what they're waiting for but it's coming. 

Hurry up then, the sooner this clowncar crashes and burns the better




Anyone who wants to buy Unlimited Coins, I'm bulk selling if it forks: 0.2 BTC each. Generous offer, ends midnight March 1st 2017
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
The revolutionary trading ecosystem
$100 million for just power tussle, if this continue without amicable solution, I can't see any winner here because both sides will surely lose out, this is problem when someone has money and know not what to do with it
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1530
www.ixcoin.net

lol where's the BU hardfork then?

Hurry up and fork, this is like one of those japanese cartoons where the characters take the whole half-hour to talk about the massive fight they're about to have.

You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?

I'm not a big blocker but I can read.  BU now has more miner support than Segwit.  Don't know what they're waiting for but it's coming. 
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3071

The tide has turned against Core.  BU seem unstoppable here.  



lol where's the BU hardfork then?


Hurry up and fork, this is like one of those japanese cartoons where the characters take the whole half-hour to talk about the massive fight they're about to have.


You've all been talking for 2 years, when will you actually do something?
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
the real funny thing about the OP's rant. is that he tries to pretend he cares about bitcoin with the lets hope common sense keeps the status quo of one open network of digital gold

Quote
Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold.
sidnote: bitcoin is not digital gold. bitcoin is a digital asset, far better than digital gold in many many ways

he also pretends to detest government money. by mentioning government and rothchild divide and conquer agenda.

but here is the thing.
he himself is playing the divide and conquer game by trying to make core the victim who should win dictatorship. by pointing cores failures in the opposite direction.. rather than think/talk/ mention consensus of no kings.

ending his post with his ultimate desire.. to exit bitcoin when he can get $2000 of that government money he pretends to detest per coin.
"They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year."

here is some things that he needs to realise.

1. the drama of the PBOC visit btcc, irs visit circle and coinbase began from the blockstream rumour mill.. barry silbert(DCG) has ownership stakes in:
BTCC, coinbase, blockstream, and.. coindesk

so the rumour mill made a normal regulatory inspection sound like an attack. like barry's companies are being victimised. etc etc.

all of which is meaningless crap. because it does not affect consensus of the network or the code.

but the OP subtly is making it sound like core is the victim and if people stay in the sheep stroking arms of core, the price will rise to $2k this year

please wake up people and care more about consensus and the code
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 544
https://twitter.com/Truthcoin/status/827695619355598852

Looks like The Powers That Be are scared that bitcoin manages to keep climbing back to 1000+ territory.

They tried with XT, then classiccoin, now that they realized their PBOC FUD is not working, its BUcoin time.

Luckily, the only thing they are going to accomplish is waste a lot of money, and in the small chance the disaster happens, it's time to dump since both sides will crash as we saw with the ETH/ETC debacle. Core will eventually emerge as the winner since they are objectively the best coders, but no side will win on overall bitcoin crashing and getting a shitfest on mainstream media, with an overall winner: governments and rothchild's gold (as intended, through the good old "divide and conquer" method which they have been using for ages every time something threatened the status quo)

Let's just hope common sense prevails and digital gold stays digital gold. BUcoin will soon join the list of failed powergrab attempts with false promises. They will not stop $2,000 from happening this year.

After PBOC has conducted their investigation on Chinese Exchangers and the fake volumes and market manipulation cases were put into stop, bitcoin users have again enkindled their trust to bitcoins. This point of time even if there are new threats to bitcoin it will still survive and may even surpass your prediction which is Two thoudand dollars this year.
legendary
Activity: 3052
Merit: 1530
www.ixcoin.net

The tide has turned against Core.  BU seem unstoppable here. 
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
Franky, genuine question, what is the fear? what do you think is the ultimate goal of Blockstream and a hyperledger ?  

hyperledger is FIAT2.0
blockstream are using bitcoin as the "experiment" messing with offchain/sidechain techniques to then hand those techniques to the bankers so that the bankers can have their 200+fiat interlaced and swappable chains(national currencies and other markets)

holding up bitcoin onchain growth just to let blockstream paid devs sandbox bitcoin to give time for hyperledger to overtake. is not helping bitcoin
legendary
Activity: 3024
Merit: 1640
lose: unfind ... loose: untight
BU can't get shit done without Core's code

Meanwhile, core can't get shit done without Satoshi's code. So what? You seem to have little understanding of the way open source development works. Or really any technological progress whatsoever. Every innovator is enabled by standing atop the giants that preceded her.
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 520
The government is not stupid. They want to get rid of cash, and the immediate alternative for when that happens will be bitcoin (because they will ban gold too, they have already done it in the past), so you are delusional if you think bitcoin isn't under their radar. They want to crush it, and they know the best way is to launch a trojan horse dressed as a sweet solution that sounds good in principle but it's really shit (BU) in order to take control and get rid of Core which is the original cryptopunk team that wants to keep the network as decentralized as possible by giving nodes the #1 priority (without easy to run nodes bitcoin is useless as a censorship resistant tool).

Government/bankster mafia top priority nowadays is to start shifting the bitcoin network into a datacenter driven network instead of random people running them at home on their own computers (if you are not holding the blockchain yourself you are not hosting a full node, so forget about online services crap).

1. CORE are bypassing node consensus to make the rules have upto FOUR mb weight WITHOUT node votes allowing/vetoing

2. other implementations USE NODE CONSENSUS where the nodes decide what they can cope with. and then pools react when there is consensus.

3. CORES main guys sipa, gmaxwell, matt corallo, luke jr(plus dozen others) are PAID by corporations. even gmaxwells/adam backs 'founded' business has MEMBERSHIP into HYPERLEDGER, which is the BANKERS fiat2.0 concept.

wake up to the hypocrisy of the scripts they get sheep to shout. when the real truth is that core are doing all the mis-deeds.

https://www.hyperledger.org/about/members <- general members - blockstream

admit it they get sheep to fear splits, and then tell sheep to beg non-core implementation too split.. yet non-core implementations refuse to split.
non core implementations want to use consensus. not splits.

just wake up

Franky, genuine question, what is the fear? what do you think is the ultimate goal of Blockstream and a hyperledger ? 
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 520
peer-2peer, Decentralised, distributed, cryptocurrencies are out of the box.  They have no chance now  Grin  

Every attempt to control and manipulate will only makes the next generation even more secure/control resistant.   Grin  good luck hahaha
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