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Exactly. If you can buy GPU's cheaper than newegg etc., and he actually has them in stock, it makes perfect sense to use GPUC. That's the only question though, will he be able to stock the cards and sell them at a reasonable price. If he comes in at the same price, there's no reason to use GPUC.
That's what I tried explaining to folks early on in this thread, as some folks were confident GPUC would stand up with a defined value. I said no.. it won't. GPUC is merely the transport vehicle; while a static or at least high value is preferred, it doesn't mean that will be the case. The markets will define the value of the coin. This will be based on their confidence and preference of using GPUC, which is based on the business frontend's ability to outperform its Commercial Competition in quantity/volume.
I like the overall idea of the business model, being based on a product which is in demand, but that is its own Achilles heel--it's a product which is in such high demand that the factories cannot keep up with production. Amazon is the highest volume reseller of GPUs in North America to the consumer market, followed up by Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc.
While GPUCoin will surely be able to garner some sort of partnership with a wholesale or reseller/distributor, they will not be able to outdo Amazon or the others in Accessibility and Volume. They will fill a niche for sure--no doubt about it--but they won't come close to being one of the "go to" places. Especially when, right now, you can use BTC directly on TigerDirect, or buy store giftcards with it--and with Amazon, you can go BTC->Giftcard at a 15-20% discount. So if you're a Prime member, you're getting below MSRP on the GPU's already, and then another 15-20% off of that--with next day delivery, and no quantity limits.
I'm not seeing how GPUCoin can compete with that.
I might be wrong, but this is my assessment.
Edit:
In fact, if I were GPU Coin, in addition to partnerships with resellers/wholesale establishments, I would probably be buying from Amazon and then reselling it. Perhaps this is part of his plan, it would certainly open up volume. He could then make a nice net profit on his side of the ledger if he did this and kept the GPU price below Newegg's pricing.
Your writing makes a lot of sense!
I'm guessing the GPUCoin price will be pretty close to what it costs to mine. If you have to pay more than the graphics card's price you want to buy - in electricity costs - it doesn't make much sense to mine, right?
So can we have an estimate how many GPUcoins you can mine with 400usd of electricity in a couple of weeks? I think that would give an estimate of the max value of the coin.
If we in fact get a real market where GPUCoins are actively exchanged for graphics cards, early (lower) mining costs of CPUCoins may give a decent profit. In the long run I still think the CPUCoin price will be what the mining cost is. And that's IF there actually is a functioning store where to spend the coins.
Anyways, an interesting project, and happy to have mined 500 coins today :-)
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I think the price for GPUC should remain fairly stable, once the store opens up and we have some idea about how many GPUC it will cost to get one GPU. I think the GPUC should be in some way self-correcting because anyone who buys GPUC to get a GPU is going to check it against the value of BTC and their national currency. The volatility might be more connected to BTC volatility than manipulation of the GPUC market.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
Honestly, if you believe anyone mines that coin to buy GPUs you are just naive.
Who mines it is planning to dump it as soon as the price is profitable enough. Some of the miners bet on people that are expected buy this coin to get GPUs, but really look at it: You get GPUs quicker and cheaper on big markets than here - especially outside of north america. As said before, the whole model is a flaw, and if the creators are aware of the flaw instead of being totally naive, a scam.
That's not true though. If I can get a GPU cheaper using GPUC than using $ then I'll use my GPUC for it. There's no reason for me to dump it on an exchange and convert it to $ just to buy a GPU that's more expensive.
>implying majority of miners want GPUs
Wasn't implying that at all. I am prepared to go out on a limb though and say that there are probably quite a few people here interested in buying GPUs.
+1...I'm solely interested in buying GPUs from the store when it's up and running.
how to setup a p2p address on conf file?
Wallet address as username. Anything for password. Url is the same format as a regular pool.
You will also need to add --config xxxxxxx to your batch file.
Example batch file for config file called gpucoin.conf
vertminer.exe --config gpucoin.conf
gpucoin.conf would look like..
Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "http://ipaddress and port here for p2pool",
"user" : "walletaddress_here",
"pass" : "password"
}
],
Your settings here....
}
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "http://ipaddress and port here for p2pool",
"user" : "walletaddress_here",
"pass" : "password"
}
],
Your settings here....
}
I think the price for GPUC should remain fairly stable, once the store opens up and we have some idea about how many GPUC it will cost to get one GPU. I think the GPUC should be in some way self-correcting because anyone who buys GPUC to get a GPU is going to check it against the value of BTC and their national currency. The volatility might be more connected to BTC volatility than manipulation of the GPUC market.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
Honestly, if you believe anyone mines that coin to buy GPUs you are just naive.
Who mines it is planning to dump it as soon as the price is profitable enough. Some of the miners bet on people that are expected buy this coin to get GPUs, but really look at it: You get GPUs quicker and cheaper on big markets than here - especially outside of north america. As said before, the whole model is a flaw, and if the creators are aware of the flaw instead of being totally naive, a scam.
IF they have them, you still don't know if that store will work at all and can fill the demand. Also he still has to optain them to the actual market price, without the usual marge of course, but he's already second to last in the chain of guys that gonna earn from the demand. So he has to get them at a much lower price than most of the big fishes to sell them so low. And everyone here is betting on that he can actually make it? That's like betting all savings on the underdog at a race...
Furthermore, look at the hashrates, for instance in dedicated pool the no1 has 34,472 kH no1 has 30,154 and so on. That are not potatos that mine there, you need quite fat ass rig to run 30mH on scrypt-n. You really think these do it for cheap GPUs? Seriously...
Incorrect or no genesis block found.
Ideas?
Ideas?
Delete the old data from the previous incarnations of GPUcoin. Found under C > users . Appdata > roaming etc
Is that poster above still giving away GPU coins?
GWeoHTzah9By5hR1xCrydDa4ei5VLHug7f
There is nothing in my appdata folder to delete.
I am having the same problem.
I was running the old GPUCoin wallet and could not get it to sync so downloaded the new one and am getting this problem.
As soon as you try to start the wallet an appdata folder gpucoin is created. Are you looking in the right place?
type %appdata% in the start menu search bar click on Roaming an it should be there delete that folder and start the new gpucoin-qt again
There is nothing related to GPUCoin in my appdata folder, there is just a config file for another coin. I have closed and re-ran GPUCoin wallet and it still does not generate one.
Does it matter that I am using Windows XP?
It shouldn't make any difference as far as I'm aware
I think the price for GPUC should remain fairly stable, once the store opens up and we have some idea about how many GPUC it will cost to get one GPU. I think the GPUC should be in some way self-correcting because anyone who buys GPUC to get a GPU is going to check it against the value of BTC and their national currency. The volatility might be more connected to BTC volatility than manipulation of the GPUC market.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
Honestly, if you believe anyone mines that coin to buy GPUs you are just naive.
Who mines it is planning to dump it as soon as the price is profitable enough. Some of the miners bet on people that are expected buy this coin to get GPUs, but really look at it: You get GPUs quicker and cheaper on big markets than here - especially outside of north america. As said before, the whole model is a flaw, and if the creators are aware of the flaw instead of being totally naive, a scam.
That's not true though. If I can get a GPU cheaper using GPUC than using $ then I'll use my GPUC for it. There's no reason for me to dump it on an exchange and convert it to $ just to buy a GPU that's more expensive.
>implying majority of miners want GPUs
Wasn't implying that at all. I am prepared to go out on a limb though and say that there are probably quite a few people here interested in buying GPUs.
Incorrect or no genesis block found.
Ideas?
Ideas?
Delete the old data from the previous incarnations of GPUcoin. Found under C > users . Appdata > roaming etc
Is that poster above still giving away GPU coins?
GWeoHTzah9By5hR1xCrydDa4ei5VLHug7f
There is nothing in my appdata folder to delete.
I am having the same problem.
I was running the old GPUCoin wallet and could not get it to sync so downloaded the new one and am getting this problem.
As soon as you try to start the wallet an appdata folder gpucoin is created. Are you looking in the right place?
type %appdata% in the start menu search bar click on Roaming an it should be there delete that folder and start the new gpucoin-qt again
There is nothing related to GPUCoin in my appdata folder, there is just a config file for another coin. I have closed and re-ran GPUCoin wallet and it still does not generate one.
Does it matter that I am using Windows XP?
I think the price for GPUC should remain fairly stable, once the store opens up and we have some idea about how many GPUC it will cost to get one GPU. I think the GPUC should be in some way self-correcting because anyone who buys GPUC to get a GPU is going to check it against the value of BTC and their national currency. The volatility might be more connected to BTC volatility than manipulation of the GPUC market.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
Honestly, if you believe anyone mines that coin to buy GPUs you are just naive.
Who mines it is planning to dump it as soon as the price is profitable enough. Some of the miners bet on people that are expected buy this coin to get GPUs, but really look at it: You get GPUs quicker and cheaper on big markets than here - especially outside of north america. As said before, the whole model is a flaw, and if the creators are aware of the flaw instead of being totally naive, a scam.
That's not true though. If I can get a GPU cheaper using GPUC than using $ then I'll use my GPUC for it. There's no reason for me to dump it on an exchange and convert it to $ just to buy a GPU that's more expensive.
>implying majority of miners want GPUs
Anyone on here tell me what I should be getting for R9 290 and suggest TC, intensity and worksize setings?
Thought Id jump on this launch late - having stressed out and spat my dummy last time gpu coin launched
Cheers!!!!
Thought Id jump on this launch late - having stressed out and spat my dummy last time gpu coin launched
Cheers!!!!
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 200
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
del *.bin
Color 0E
sgminer --kernel zuikkis -o stratum+tcp://POOL:PORT -u ME.MYWORKER -p PASWORDWORKER -I 18 --no-submit-stale --thread-concurrency 24550 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2
these are my settings on r9 290
hope it helps
Incorrect or no genesis block found.
Ideas?
Ideas?
Delete the old data from the previous incarnations of GPUcoin. Found under C > users . Appdata > roaming etc
Is that poster above still giving away GPU coins?
GWeoHTzah9By5hR1xCrydDa4ei5VLHug7f
There is nothing in my appdata folder to delete.
I am having the same problem.
I was running the old GPUCoin wallet and could not get it to sync so downloaded the new one and am getting this problem.
As soon as you try to start the wallet an appdata folder gpucoin is created. Are you looking in the right place?
type %appdata% in the start menu search bar click on Roaming an it should be there delete that folder and start the new gpucoin-qt again
I think the price for GPUC should remain fairly stable, once the store opens up and we have some idea about how many GPUC it will cost to get one GPU. I think the GPUC should be in some way self-correcting because anyone who buys GPUC to get a GPU is going to check it against the value of BTC and their national currency. The volatility might be more connected to BTC volatility than manipulation of the GPUC market.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
The only way I see extreme volatility is if there's a lot of dumping all at once or if the GPUC store is the only place where you can find, for example, 290x GPUs.
Honestly, if you believe anyone mines that coin to buy GPUs you are just naive.
Who mines it is planning to dump it as soon as the price is profitable enough. Some of the miners bet on people that are expected buy this coin to get GPUs, but really look at it: You get GPUs quicker and cheaper on big markets than here - especially outside of north america. As said before, the whole model is a flaw, and if the creators are aware of the flaw instead of being totally naive, a scam.
can we get gpucoin on cryptsy?
Still way too early for that.
can we get gpucoin on cryptsy?
Incorrect or no genesis block found.
Ideas?
Ideas?
Delete the old data from the previous incarnations of GPUcoin. Found under C > users . Appdata > roaming etc
Is that poster above still giving away GPU coins?
GWeoHTzah9By5hR1xCrydDa4ei5VLHug7f
There is nothing in my appdata folder to delete.
I am having the same problem.
I was running the old GPUCoin wallet and could not get it to sync so downloaded the new one and am getting this problem.
Exactly. If you can buy GPU's cheaper than newegg etc., and he actually has them in stock, it makes perfect sense to use GPUC. That's the only question though, will he be able to stock the cards and sell them at a reasonable price. If he comes in at the same price, there's no reason to use GPUC.
That's what I tried explaining to folks early on in this thread, as some folks were confident GPUC would stand up with a defined value. I said no.. it won't. GPUC is merely the transport vehicle; while a static or at least high value is preferred, it doesn't mean that will be the case. The markets will define the value of the coin. This will be based on their confidence and preference of using GPUC, which is based on the business frontend's ability to outperform its Commercial Competition in quantity/volume.
I like the overall idea of the business model, being based on a product which is in demand, but that is its own Achilles heel--it's a product which is in such high demand that the factories cannot keep up with production. Amazon is the highest volume reseller of GPUs in North America to the consumer market, followed up by Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc.
While GPUCoin will surely be able to garner some sort of partnership with a wholesale or reseller/distributor, they will not be able to outdo Amazon or the others in Accessibility and Volume. They will fill a niche for sure--no doubt about it--but they won't come close to being one of the "go to" places. Especially when, right now, you can use BTC directly on TigerDirect, or buy store giftcards with it--and with Amazon, you can go BTC->Giftcard at a 15-20% discount. So if you're a Prime member, you're getting below MSRP on the GPU's already, and then another 15-20% off of that--with next day delivery, and no quantity limits.
I'm not seeing how GPUCoin can compete with that.
I might be wrong, but this is my assessment.
Edit:
In fact, if I were GPU Coin, in addition to partnerships with resellers/wholesale establishments, I would probably be buying from Amazon and then reselling it. Perhaps this is part of his plan, it would certainly open up volume. He could then make a nice net profit on his side of the ledger if he did this and kept the GPU price below Newegg's pricing.
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how to setup a p2p address on conf file?
Wallet address as username. Anything for password. Url is the same format as a regular pool.
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