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Quote from: rjk on March 28, 2012, 11:20:42 AM

Quote from: BinaryMage on March 28, 2012, 11:19:35 AM

No offense, but if you're buying shares on GPUMAX and sending them to PPS pools, you're kinda missing the point.

In any case, leave if you want, more BTC for the rest of us!

Derpbit offers proportional, btw.

Yeah, but he was specifically talking about PPS.

Quote from: P4man on March 28, 2012, 11:35:17 AM

Quote from: BinaryMage on March 28, 2012, 11:19:35 AM

No offense, but if you're buying shares on GPUMAX and sending them to PPS pools, you're kinda missing the point.

But wherever else you send them, how can you achieve a positive ROI?

Since you cant time the purchases precisely (AFAIK), its rather useless for hopping. YOu might try hopping with purchased shares by sending them to your own proxy and hop from there, but aside from the stales I suspect that would cause, and your proxy that would have to withstand such massive spikes, AFAIK gpumax doesnt even let you send them to any pool other than the ones they approved. Even if you could, good luck getting >160% PPS from hopping these days.

So I guess Im missing the point too. Who is buying at 160% PPS and what for?

My guesses are private pools, volume testing (of mining proxies or whatnot) and sheer bets that a proportional pool will get lucky.

There is supposedly some secret reason that no one will reveal (see the thread a while back), but I have not managed to figure out what it is.

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Quote from: TheSeven on March 27, 2012, 05:08:30 PM

Quote from: rjk on March 27, 2012, 03:58:03 PM

FWIW, I have never been able to get a BFL with ufasoft to work on GPUMAX at all. It starts and runs and reports 100% rejects.

I could probably make MPBM compatible, to have another BFL and GPUMAX compatible miner, also opening GPUMAX's route to other FPGA boards at the same time, if I would finally get that damn invite! (have been waiting for several weeks now)

FYI: I'm running MPBM Testing branch with my Icarus FPGA cluster, and it's mining on GPUMax right now just fine.

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Quote from: BinaryMage on March 28, 2012, 11:19:35 AM

No offense, but if you're buying shares on GPUMAX and sending them to PPS pools, you're kinda missing the point.

But wherever else you send them, how can you achieve a positive ROI?

Since you cant time the purchases precisely (AFAIK), its rather useless for hopping. YOu might try hopping with purchased shares by sending them to your own proxy and hop from there, but aside from the stales I suspect that would cause, and your proxy that would have to withstand such massive spikes, AFAIK gpumax doesnt even let you send them to any pool other than the ones they approved. Even if you could, good luck getting >160% PPS from hopping these days.

So I guess Im missing the point too. Who is buying at 160% PPS and what for?

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Quote from: BinaryMage on March 28, 2012, 11:19:35 AM

No offense, but if you're buying shares on GPUMAX and sending them to PPS pools, you're kinda missing the point.

In any case, leave if you want, more BTC for the rest of us!

Derpbit offers proportional, btw.

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Quote from: ummas on March 28, 2012, 02:59:24 AM

I dont wont to be rud, but in my opinion, if GPUMAX will keep prize of purschases so high, they will loose all customers.
difficulty rises, pize should be going down...

I dont mind staying, but it`s unprofitable ATM.
using gpumax, i must use deepbit for example, and i get more stales (aprox 0.5%)

using P2Pool, i get no fee, less stales = more BTC.

reminder: deepbit pays now aproox 0.0000304sommethink per share. who will buy share for 0.000055 or (oh GOD) for 0.00006??
this prize was ok, when deepbit was paying 0.00004 per share. (it was a time, when i was joining gpumax)ed

@RoloTonyBrownTown
THX for that, i payed for 3 of them. cant tell bought.... :/ you know the 4-6 weeks rule ? Tongue

No offense, but if you're buying shares on GPUMAX and sending them to PPS pools, you're kinda missing the point.

In any case, leave if you want, more BTC for the rest of us!

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Quote from: ummas on March 28, 2012, 02:59:24 AM

I dont wont to be rud, but in my opinion, if GPUMAX will keep prize of purschases so high, they will loose all customers.
difficulty rises, pize should be going down...

I dont mind staying, but it`s unprofitable ATM.
using gpumax, i must use deepbit for example, and i get more stales (aprox 0.5%)

using P2Pool, i get no fee, less stales = more BTC.

reminder: deepbit pays now aproox 0.0000304sommethink per share. who will buy share for 0.000055 or (oh GOD) for 0.00006??
this prize was ok, when deepbit was paying 0.00004 per share. (it was a time, when i was joining gpumax)ed

@RoloTonyBrownTown
THX for that, i payed for 3 of them. cant tell bought.... :/ you know the 4-6 weeks rule ? Tongue

Then go to P2P pool... bye bye!

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We're working out a couple more bugs and purchases will resume.

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Quote from: hashking on March 28, 2012, 08:36:24 AM

Anyone getting any public shares yet.

No public work for me. Was a little last night.

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Anyone getting any public shares yet.

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I dont wont to be rud, but in my opinion, if GPUMAX will keep prize of purschases so high, they will loose all customers.
difficulty rises, pize should be going down...

I dont mind staying, but it`s unprofitable ATM.
using gpumax, i must use deepbit for example, and i get more stales (aprox 0.5%)

using P2Pool, i get no fee, less stales = more BTC.

reminder: deepbit pays now aproox 0.0000304sommethink per share. who will buy share for 0.000055 or (oh GOD) for 0.00006??
this prize was ok, when deepbit was paying 0.00004 per share. (it was a time, when i was joining gpumax)ed

@RoloTonyBrownTown
THX for that, i payed for 3 of them. cant tell bought.... :/ you know the 4-6 weeks rule ? Tongue

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The BFL's run fine on GPUMAX with cgminer if that helps.

I haven't tried Ufasoft at all to be honest.

And yes, no paid work at the moment unfortunately (although there was a nice burst for a while last night)

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Quote from: slider1978 on March 27, 2012, 05:24:10 PM

Quote from: jjiimm_64 on March 27, 2012, 04:17:20 PM

Quote from: e21 on March 27, 2012, 04:05:15 PM

I had heard that Tahiti has issues with GPUmax for some reason;

Tahiti does not have problems with gpumax... diablo miner does.

I have a few 7970 crunching away public and private shares at gpumax using cgminer.

+1, I have 3 7970's on cgminer and GPUMax with no trouble.

Me too. Cgminer crashes out on project #2 while running the 7970s, but gpumax runs them fine.

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Quote from: jjiimm_64 on March 27, 2012, 04:17:20 PM

Quote from: e21 on March 27, 2012, 04:05:15 PM

I had heard that Tahiti has issues with GPUmax for some reason;

Tahiti does not have problems with gpumax... diablo miner does.

I have a few 7970 crunching away public and private shares at gpumax using cgminer.

+1, I have 3 7970's on cgminer and GPUMax with no trouble.

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Quote from: rjk on March 27, 2012, 03:58:03 PM

FWIW, I have never been able to get a BFL with ufasoft to work on GPUMAX at all. It starts and runs and reports 100% rejects.

I could probably make MPBM compatible, to have another BFL and GPUMAX compatible miner, also opening GPUMAX's route to other FPGA boards at the same time, if I would finally get that damn invite! (have been waiting for several weeks now)

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Quote from: e21 on March 27, 2012, 04:05:15 PM

I had heard that Tahiti has issues with GPUmax for some reason;

Tahiti does not have problems with gpumax... diablo miner does.

I have a few 7970 crunching away public and private shares at gpumax using cgminer.

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Quote from: minero1 on March 27, 2012, 03:55:03 PM

Quote from: e21 on March 27, 2012, 03:51:09 PM

Quote from: BinaryMage on March 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM

I'm getting public work, but ~35% (!) rejects. Anyone else experiencing this?

One of my rigs with 1.7 GH/s running Phoenix 2 is getting 90-100% rejects, also tried phoenix 1.7.5 which got 100% rejects. On a rig with 235MH/s, phoenix 2.0 is running fine, but on newer drivers... Rig with 1.7GH/s is using 5870s/5970s, so if I update the driver I will lose a signifcant amount of MH/s. Also, I am not convinced this is driver related.

Have a rig with 1.5GH/s running DiabloMiner 11.12 drivers, which is getting an acceptable amount of rejects, but GPU usage is all over the board, jumping between 0 and 100% usage, and everywhere in between, in no particular order on all of my GPUs, this is resulting in about a 20% decrease in hashrate Angry

Have a rig with 2.3GHs, using 7970's and DiabloMiner, which also has GPU usage problem, but much worse, resulting in about 50% decreased hashrate.

About a day ago, my rig with 1.5GH/s was working just fine offline, since public work resumed over the past however many hours, this problem started occurring.

I am curious why DiabloMiner, which is not listed as supported by GPUmax, works better than Phoenix 1.7.5 and 2, which are listed as compatible...

are you using BAMT? i had many issues with BAMT with phoenix and phoenix2 until i started using cgminer

but it looks like you have more experience building mining rigs than me so what do i know

Sorry, I guess that information probably would have helped Grin

No, I am using Windows 7 64bit on all of my rigs.. I just checked my 1.5GHs rig, which has stabilized somewhat after being connected to GPUmax for a while.. hashrate is still about 8-10% below normal though due to drops in GPU usage.

Phoenix 2.0 is now working on my 1.7 GH/s rig for some strange reason.. I went back to run it, so I could grab the error message I was getting and post it here, but now it's working Embarrassed

previously, it was hashing, and trying to submit work, but was returning something about the work submitted being wrong or something.

2.3GH/s rig still is having major drops in GPU usage, I had heard that Tahiti has issues with GPUmax for some reason; has anyone else heard this, or can confirm this? I'm part of the 1% who doesn't typically use cgminer, for various reasons, however I do have a copy downloaded and configured on my 2.3GH/s rig, which I have not tested yet, I will post back with the results of that...

EDIT:

Quote from: QuantumFoam on March 27, 2012, 04:00:35 PM

Public work has ceased it seems. I guess there's still work being done with the migration.

Lol.. that is probably why my rigs are working just fine now.. Problem for me seemed to be with public shares only..

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Public work has ceased it seems. I guess there's still work being done with the migration.

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FWIW, I have never been able to get a BFL with ufasoft to work on GPUMAX at all. It starts and runs and reports 100% rejects. The same software and miner works on other pools, and I tested with a working login from another rig, so I'm not sure why it rejects everything.

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Quote from: e21 on March 27, 2012, 03:51:09 PM

Quote from: BinaryMage on March 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM

I'm getting public work, but ~35% (!) rejects. Anyone else experiencing this?

One of my rigs with 1.7 GH/s running Phoenix 2 is getting 90-100% rejects, also tried phoenix 1.7.5 which got 100% rejects. On a rig with 235MH/s, phoenix 2.0 is running fine, but on newer drivers... Rig with 1.7GH/s is using 5870s/5970s, so if I update the driver I will lose a signifcant amount of MH/s. Also, I am not convinced this is driver related.

Have a rig with 1.5GH/s running DiabloMiner 11.12 drivers, which is getting an acceptable amount of rejects, but GPU usage is all over the board, jumping between 0 and 100% usage, and everywhere in between, in no particular order on all of my GPUs, this is resulting in about a 20% decrease in hashrate Angry

Have a rig with 2.3GHs, using 7970's and DiabloMiner, which also has GPU usage problem, but much worse, resulting in about 50% decreased hashrate.

About a day ago, my rig with 1.5GH/s was working just fine offline, since public work resumed over the past however many hours, this problem started occurring.

I am curious why DiabloMiner, which is not listed as supported by GPUmax, works better than Phoenix 1.7.5 and 2, which are listed as compatible...

are you using BAMT? i had many issues with BAMT with phoenix and phoenix2 until i started using cgminer

but it looks like you have more experience building mining rigs than me so what do i know

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Quote from: BinaryMage on March 27, 2012, 12:43:07 PM

I'm getting public work, but ~35% (!) rejects. Anyone else experiencing this?

One of my rigs with 1.7 GH/s running Phoenix 2 is getting 90-100% rejects, also tried phoenix 1.7.5 which got 100% rejects. On a rig with 235MH/s, phoenix 2.0 is running fine, but on newer drivers... Rig with 1.7GH/s is using 5870s/5970s, so if I update the driver I will lose a signifcant amount of MH/s. Also, I am not convinced this is driver related.

Have a rig with 1.5GH/s running DiabloMiner 11.12 drivers, which is getting an acceptable amount of rejects, but GPU usage is all over the board, jumping between 0 and 100% usage, and everywhere in between, in no particular order on all of my GPUs, this is resulting in about a 20% decrease in hashrate Angry

Have a rig with 2.3GHs, using 7970's and DiabloMiner, which also has GPU usage problem, but much worse, resulting in about 50% decreased hashrate.

About a day ago, my rig with 1.5GH/s was working just fine offline, since public work resumed over the past however many hours, this problem started occurring.

I am curious why DiabloMiner, which is not listed as supported by GPUmax, works better than Phoenix 1.7.5 and 2, which are listed as compatible...

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