Gradate but still an illiterate? - page 2.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Graduate but still illiterate depending on what learnings a person needs. There are those who are good or graduated college yet illiterate of the real world was. There are those things that are learnt only from experience and not at school. And so there are still graduate who are still illiterate.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Graduate but still illiterate depending on what learnings a person needs. There are those who are good or graduated college yet illiterate of the real world was. There are those things that are learnt only from experience and not at school. And so there are still graduate who are still illiterate.

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Quote from: JessIs8 on November 13, 2017, 03:05:08 PM

Schooling system is fcked up. Students aim to get a degree, instead of learning and harnessing their skills as an individual.

Yes, Indeed. Peoples goal nowadays are more focused on what wonderful job they will get. Even if they don't learn as much, they still want to have a better life. People wanted to go and find a loophole in getting those degree rather than working hard and learning to get them. I guess the conveniency of anything from the effects of technology got a hold of how people think, this conveniency led to the lazyness of all students that instead of aiming for harnessing and perfecting their skills, all they want is to graduate and have their dream job.

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Well, I've never met a person with degree that was illiterate or incabable to think critically. Maybe I'm just a lucky one, who knows Grin

But I don't talk about the moral qualities, that's another question

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Quote from: arnobs007 on November 17, 2017, 06:26:23 AM

People nowadays are educating but they are not learning. That's why civilization in this era is unthinkable!!

They want a score and certificate, not the knowledge/education.

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People nowadays are educating but they are not learning. That's why civilization in this era is unthinkable!!

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Quote from: Brokerz on November 12, 2017, 07:46:19 PM

It does not mean you are a man who has only a title suffix title you, you are a blind hurup if you can not keep your surroundings around you, littering, making troublemakers and so forth

Having a degree it doesn't mean you have a good attitude but it's up to you how you handle it.

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Knowledge is certainly a necessary thing for human development, but it can not become educated. Not many are able to become educated, some just do not have enough knowledge for this.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Completely perfectly agreed, Knowing how to solve maths problems and read book do not make people clever. Educated people does not mean that they are enlighted. If education does not enlighten people , It does not work. Schools and universities must help people to find their enlightenment.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

In the current world earning a degree is useless and of no value when you don't make use of it and get a job. Right now we go to school with the sole purpose of getting jobs in the near future.

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It is possible but you pulled out a scenario that is unlikely and you cannot put that on all people who are educated neither. Due to these fallacies we must throw that logic out the window and start fresh. I will say that some

people who are book smart have zero life smarts and it is hilarious to watch in action. Then again they probably think it is hilarious to watch a person who is life smart fall flat on their face when it comes to books and quizzes

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Quote from: boakyei on November 12, 2017, 08:51:43 PM

Cleaning or doing a mess shit job which is traditionally assign to illiterate does not make you an illiterate even if you hold PHD. If you are graduate but can't apply the knowledge acquired to enhance your self and family makes you illiterate.

Actually in today's world you often are forced to do these jobs as a graduate. It's not the degree that matters but your family, social status, friends, and whether you can push yourself above all others. Pushing yourself means that you are willing to do things other people won't like sleeping with your boss or telling on your coworkers.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Yes I agree with you. Many people in my country keep cram English book become 100% in TOEFL but cannot speak and if they read English newspaper they will keep English dictionary for a word looking.

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Schooling system is fcked up. Students aim to get a degree, instead of learning and harnessing their skills as an individual.

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There are a lot of people with even university degrees who are completely ignorant, while there are people with no university and exceptional knowledge. Degrees are just paper.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

I agree to that. Many are educated but few are mannered. Many educated people has PhD or higher than that but their values towards environment, the way they see others are lower people, the way they treat the poor is remarkably unacceptable. I don't see education can really make us literate in all aspects. We maybe educated mentally but not morally, spiritually and emotionally.

I agree. Sometimes a graduate but still illiterate is lack of manners. It doesn't mean that you are literate if you are graduated and educated. If you do not treat people in a good way then youre illiterate. Sometimes having a good manner can makes you literate even youre not graduated.

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Absolutely agree.
Can add, that any knoledge is nothinh without practice and experience.
So if you were a golden boy in school doesn't mean that you are smart.

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Quote from: Crankautist on November 11, 2017, 07:09:00 PM

Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

Look in the mirror. You could have a ph.d.(tbh i doubt that very much) and still be the same 3rd world idiot.

I.e. egypt college graduates have an avg iq of around 90.

there are a lot of people who are graduate in college but still uneducated especially their parents they treat them as there servant they still dont know what they are talking if that is wrong or correct .

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Quote from: jaibster on November 11, 2017, 12:08:00 PM

Does achieving a degree means that you have become a civilized and educated human being? I don't think so. Getting knowledge won't make you an educated person. The most common example of illiteracy by educated people is when there is littering iin educational institutes and illiterate people are hired to clean the mess. cramming your course books won't bring wisdom, it will only bring knowledge without enlightenment.

THe most basic problem for me I think is thinking that your education entitles you yo a lot more than the people who dont have. BEing well learned in one thing only means you might be an expert there however kothing compares to what is really being in there means

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Cleaning or doing a mess shit job which is traditionally assign to illiterate does not make you an illiterate even if you hold PHD. If you are graduate but can't apply the knowledge acquired to enhance your self and family makes you illiterate.

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